6D or 5D Mk II

[krjc]

6D is the perfect watch for the gf or bf of a photographer. Also as a backup if necessary.

[djurma11]

With the current prices of the 5D2, it's a no brainer! You can get the body + 24-105 for the price of the 6D. (see BH bundle with pixma 9000 and $400 rebate).

[tron]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. With the 6D, it looks like they've successfully Rebelized the xD line.

Except they have multiplied the price 

[Ryan_W]

However for me the huge selling point of the 6D is the "silent" shutter!  Assuming it works on the production cameras like it does on the prototype - wow is it quiet compared to the 5D Mk II!  It I can think of so many places (events, street, ect.) it would be great to have that feature.

^^^ This.

The 6D isn't a 5dMkIII and it's not a 7D, and the three cameras aren't intended for the same audience or the same purpose. The 6D is a street/travel shooter through and through - designed for less weight, integrated GPS that will only work outdoors, better one-hand operation, SD cards (more universal compatibility) and a built in App for remote uploading to social media.

The GPS bashing is all good and well if you're photographing your cousin's birthday party or a baseball game once a week, but as someone shooting freelance editorial on the street with 1,000 frames per set, I appreciate the extra level of metadata allowing me to sort. It'll also make the camera fully compatible with social media mapping features that pull from similar data on smartphones to automatically tag locations.

[tron]

The GPS bashing is all good and well if you're photographing your cousin's birthday party or a baseball game once a week, but as someone shooting freelance editorial on the street with 1,000 frames per set, I appreciate the extra level of metadata allowing me to sort. It'll also make the camera fully compatible with social media mapping features that pull from similar data on smartphones to automatically tag locations.

1000 frames per set cries professional. Now I do not mean to insult anyone but social media cries snapshots taken by kids. And snapshots can be taken by a lesser camera. Sorry! Can't take them too seriously. Just my opinion.

[DB]

I've posted this video on CR before, it is an interview with Richard Shepherd, Senior Product Specialist at Canon Europe Ltd., and he expressly states in ENGLISH that 6D is an upgrade for xxxD & 60D owners who want to go FF.

So please stop saying things like: "the 6D is a 5D2 failure" or "6D is not intended for the same audience as 7D or 5D3 users"...WE ALREADY KNOW THIS....CANON TOLD US THIS IN SEPTEMBER

I do not wish to be rude but reading these remarks is like listening to someone say "imho 2+2 = 4", so please stop second-guessing what is already an acknowledged fact by the manufacturer of this product.

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[Area256]

The GPS bashing is all good and well if you're photographing your cousin's birthday party or a baseball game once a week, but as someone shooting freelance editorial on the street with 1,000 frames per set, I appreciate the extra level of metadata allowing me to sort. It'll also make the camera fully compatible with social media mapping features that pull from similar data on smartphones to automatically tag locations.

1000 frames per set cries professional. Now I do not mean to insult anyone but social media cries snapshots taken by kids. And snapshots can be taken by a lesser camera. Sorry! Can't take them too seriously. Just my opinion.

Social media is becoming very important to both media outlets and professional photographers in many fields of work (take weddings for example).  We may not like the vast majority of work posted on social media, but many news papers and TV stations are being forced on to stay competitive, as are wedding photographers to network for clients.  Just because the majority of stuff on social media is really bad, doesn't mean there aren't pros who use it as a important part of doing business.

[aalbert]

Just noticed a new hands-on for the 6D.  They take a lot of time going through the smartphone app, and flesh out / reinforce other first reviews from other sites.

http://www.thephoblographer.com/2012/10/27/first-impressions-canon-6d-and-wi-fi-demo/

[Vikmnilu]

Well, exclusively focusing in the actual question of the thread
I would recommend the 5D mark II, bought it used in April and can't be more happy about it. It was such an improvement compared to my old 10D that I used for 7 seven years. I even asked myself why I did not buy before.

Reading about the 6D it seems that truly is a first FF for those who have had  APS-C and want to upgrade.
The fact that it has a slot only for micro SD and not compact flash makes me dislike it.
Wireless and so on is a great add on, but imo not strictly necessary nowdays.

5D mark II is still a marvellous camera.

The only reason I would buy a 6D isthe possible () better ISO performance.

Choose right and enjoy the shooting!

Victor

[robbinzo]

The Nikon D600 AF isn't all that great in the real world (when compared to the 5D III and D800 it pretty much sucks). I would like a really good AF system now I get too many out of focus action shots with my rebel 550D.
I'm waiting for the 5D III to come down in price in the New Year. I may buy one from DigitalRev and save about 20%.
The 6D was a good piece of marketing for the 5D III for me because it made me realize that an entry level FF just doesn't have the features that I would like.

[bycostello]

i travel a lot so the 6d being lighter and the gps has appeal...  if i could do a direct swap i would...

[scrappydog]

The benefits of the 6D over the 5DII: the low light AF has better performance; the metering appears to be more accurate; the AF may be better; smaller size, if that is important to you; no need to purchase CF cards because it has Micro SD; and the wireless/social media integration, if that is important to you.  The ISO performance may be better, but we don't know until Canon opens the camera to reviews.  If the camera processes shots as peppy as the 5DIII, then it would be an upgrade from the 5DII.

The 5DII does not have wireless.  The wireless app for focusing shots is a novelty unless you shoot on a tripod.  I use a similar (wired) app called DSLR Controller when I use my tilt-shifts with my 5DII, but I only use it to help with my hand focusing of the corners of the frame.  The whole mobile phone app integration appears to be tailored for the individual that would like to use a DSLR the same way that they would use their smartphone for uplinking shots to social media sites.  To me, this adds no value.  If that is important to you, it is an advantage of the 6D over the 5DII.

From what I can see from brief hands-on reviews, I would not trade my 5DII for the 6D.  I have shot the 5DIII and although it processes shots faster, has an amazing AF system, and has a one-stop ISO advantage, I probably would not upgrade to it either.  I am looking to the next gen of 5-series camera.

[M.ST]

If you have a lot of expensive CF cards, want C1toC3 instead of C1toC2, a well build camera body and don´t want the touch display get the 5D Mark II.

A lot of professional photographers use the 5D Mark II and 1Ds Mark III and are not willing to get a 6D or 5D Mark III. They wait for a camera with higher resolution and better image quality,  buy the D800E  or swap to the medium format cameras.

[Marsu42]

I do not wish to be rude but reading these remarks is like listening to someone say "imho 2+2 = 4", so please stop second-guessing what is already an acknowledged fact by the manufacturer of this product.

You should run an antivirus program, you've been infected by Canon marketing ... the one and only comparison basis is the price you get a product for (or at least the price you'd expect it to drop to in the next time), anything else is just a nice marketing wrapper.

i travel a lot so the 6d being lighter and the gps has appeal...

The question still is how power-efficient the gps will be because the solution inside a camera might need more juice like a $40 external tagger that runs 24h+ on one battery load. And I'd be surprised if the 6d will be as precise as dedicated taggers, esp. inside or in semi-shielded areas (houses, trees, ...).

[Ryan_W]

The question still is how power-efficient the gps will be because the solution inside a camera might need more juice like a $40 external tagger that runs 24h+ on one battery load. And I'd be surprised if the 6d will be as precise as dedicated taggers, esp. inside or in semi-shielded areas (houses, trees, ...).

Are there commercially available GPS applications that can connect while the user is indoors?