I think they have done remarkably!Canon has succeeded in matching the marketing and product strategy of one of the biggest companies in the world and will now surely share in the same level of success.The 6D is canons equivalent to the universally adored - 'Windows Vista'
Why? I don't give a crap anything about the 6D if I'm a 1DX owner. The 6D can't go anywhere near the 1DX. I've never missed focus once with the 1DX, in the worst lighting conditions possible, so paper specs mean absolutely nothing to me. I guess I'm happy enough with my gear that I'm not always looking at other cameras wishing mine had that feature, etc. So yes, I'm a 1DX/5D3 user and if the -3EV thing actually works well on the 6D, who cares? Not me.
What really sucks is they flaunt some of the features that should have EASILY been included on the 5D Mark III. I went out and bought that separate GPS since I do a lot of hiking for $279. They could have included the wireless feature as they do with the 6D
Quote from: K-amps on September 20, 2012, 10:13:08 AMQuote from: Albi86 on September 20, 2012, 05:56:19 AMQuote from: Marsu42 on September 20, 2012, 04:04:19 AMQuote from: dilbert on September 20, 2012, 03:53:34 AMSo their goal is not just designing and building the camera but also including parts and materials that allow it to meet a specific price point. Would, for example, you trade the GPS+WiFi for a body that was half magnesium alloy and half polycarbonate instead of no GPS/Wifi and full magnesium alloy body?Well, I certainly would (60d user :-)) - actually I really don't think it matters much of the top of a camera body is not metal, if it takes a hit on the lcd it's time a for a trip to the service anyway.However integrating wifi/gps certainly doesn't drive costs up significantly, these are cent-circuits built into billions of mobile phones. It's much more about marketing (a "pro" camera doesn't have gps) and not putting all eggs into one basket, or there wouldn't be any features left for the 6d and the 5d4.It's a different sort of mentality though.Canon gives certain features to lower models and higher-end users say: WTF?Canon cuts certain features from lower-end models and their users say: WTF?I prefer the Nikon way of differentiating D600 and D800. There are reasons to buy a D800, but at the same time the D600 has no serious flaw or deal-breaker. And no one with a D800 will say WTF? when seeing the D600.+1Like before the 5d3 was announced, I asked why doesn't Canon make SDK's for integration with smart phone and Tablets... now they have with the 6D, I like that feature, but it is not in the almost 2x priced 5D3 released just months before.... WTF ! IF this -3 EV AF thing actually works well....ANDIF I were a 5D3/1Dx user....THENI would surely say WTF.
Quote from: Albi86 on September 20, 2012, 05:56:19 AMQuote from: Marsu42 on September 20, 2012, 04:04:19 AMQuote from: dilbert on September 20, 2012, 03:53:34 AMSo their goal is not just designing and building the camera but also including parts and materials that allow it to meet a specific price point. Would, for example, you trade the GPS+WiFi for a body that was half magnesium alloy and half polycarbonate instead of no GPS/Wifi and full magnesium alloy body?Well, I certainly would (60d user :-)) - actually I really don't think it matters much of the top of a camera body is not metal, if it takes a hit on the lcd it's time a for a trip to the service anyway.However integrating wifi/gps certainly doesn't drive costs up significantly, these are cent-circuits built into billions of mobile phones. It's much more about marketing (a "pro" camera doesn't have gps) and not putting all eggs into one basket, or there wouldn't be any features left for the 6d and the 5d4.It's a different sort of mentality though.Canon gives certain features to lower models and higher-end users say: WTF?Canon cuts certain features from lower-end models and their users say: WTF?I prefer the Nikon way of differentiating D600 and D800. There are reasons to buy a D800, but at the same time the D600 has no serious flaw or deal-breaker. And no one with a D800 will say WTF? when seeing the D600.+1Like before the 5d3 was announced, I asked why doesn't Canon make SDK's for integration with smart phone and Tablets... now they have with the 6D, I like that feature, but it is not in the almost 2x priced 5D3 released just months before.... WTF !
Quote from: Marsu42 on September 20, 2012, 04:04:19 AMQuote from: dilbert on September 20, 2012, 03:53:34 AMSo their goal is not just designing and building the camera but also including parts and materials that allow it to meet a specific price point. Would, for example, you trade the GPS+WiFi for a body that was half magnesium alloy and half polycarbonate instead of no GPS/Wifi and full magnesium alloy body?Well, I certainly would (60d user :-)) - actually I really don't think it matters much of the top of a camera body is not metal, if it takes a hit on the lcd it's time a for a trip to the service anyway.However integrating wifi/gps certainly doesn't drive costs up significantly, these are cent-circuits built into billions of mobile phones. It's much more about marketing (a "pro" camera doesn't have gps) and not putting all eggs into one basket, or there wouldn't be any features left for the 6d and the 5d4.It's a different sort of mentality though.Canon gives certain features to lower models and higher-end users say: WTF?Canon cuts certain features from lower-end models and their users say: WTF?I prefer the Nikon way of differentiating D600 and D800. There are reasons to buy a D800, but at the same time the D600 has no serious flaw or deal-breaker. And no one with a D800 will say WTF? when seeing the D600.
Quote from: dilbert on September 20, 2012, 03:53:34 AMSo their goal is not just designing and building the camera but also including parts and materials that allow it to meet a specific price point. Would, for example, you trade the GPS+WiFi for a body that was half magnesium alloy and half polycarbonate instead of no GPS/Wifi and full magnesium alloy body?Well, I certainly would (60d user :-)) - actually I really don't think it matters much of the top of a camera body is not metal, if it takes a hit on the lcd it's time a for a trip to the service anyway.However integrating wifi/gps certainly doesn't drive costs up significantly, these are cent-circuits built into billions of mobile phones. It's much more about marketing (a "pro" camera doesn't have gps) and not putting all eggs into one basket, or there wouldn't be any features left for the 6d and the 5d4.
So their goal is not just designing and building the camera but also including parts and materials that allow it to meet a specific price point. Would, for example, you trade the GPS+WiFi for a body that was half magnesium alloy and half polycarbonate instead of no GPS/Wifi and full magnesium alloy body?
