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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2012, 11:05:05 PM »
Here is a comparison of my 1Ds Mark II and the 6D's other sample pic.
I used standard style which is defaulted at 3 0 0 0, 70-200mm f2.8 IS at f4.5
6D is set at 2 0 0 0 portrait style 40mm f2.8STM at f3.5

I can guarantee you that 70-200mm IS at f4.5 is not sharper than the 40mm f2.8 at 3.5
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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2012, 11:05:05 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2012, 11:28:38 PM »
Anyone actually looked at the EXIF metadata and filesizes?

The D600 portrait is 10.5MB compared to the 6D's 4.6MB.  It's hardly surprising that the brunette's features are mushed up considering how much compression has been forced on the image for the web.  The DoF is also very thin and appears not to be in the vertical plane.

Is there some unwritten rule of web advertising that only poorly taken, poorly processed images of marginal subjects are allowed to be published as samples?  Virtually all Canon and Nikon "samples" are worse than the images posted by denizens of this forum with a caption "how can I fix this photo?" :)

It's hard to say much about the shadow noise when the image has been compressed this heavily :(

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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2012, 12:45:06 AM »
Don't go overboard analyzing JPEGs posted online.

Start with RAW, and do similar processing so that you know what you get.

One might have sharpening set at "5", one at "0".   Those are just samples that conform to some unknown desire of the shooter to portray what they wanted to portray. A mood, etc.

I am NOT saying Canon will be better, or worse, or anything.  We jsut need a lot more info.

Michael

I just checked with my DPP and Capture NX
The 6D's portrait using 135L is at 0 0 0 0 neutral style exposure compensation +0.3EV
And D600 in Capture NX showed that it is at 4 0 0 0 portrait style exposure compensation +0.7EV

That gave some light into the 6D...I guess
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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #33 on: September 18, 2012, 01:42:50 AM »
Image 5 [Portrait] = cute girl. Absolutely horrible image quality. Don't tell me it's a front-focus issue. It's Canon's own website - as if they would post images of front-focused images. If they do then they need to sort themselves out ASAP. It's probably that the 6D can't focus to save itself. FAIL!

Image 6 [Portrait] = eyes are soft. Hair on the top of the head is sharper. Another "horrible focus abilities" issue? FAIL!

Image 2 [Madagascar] = horrible perspective, and bad CA on the RHS.  FAIL!

Image 1 [Baobab] = nice image but IQ doesn't impress. Barely a pass.


2005 called  (original 5D), and said it wants its AF system back!!!

Canon is so full of fail now, that it's unbelievable.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #34 on: September 18, 2012, 02:41:38 PM »


Canon has posted a bunch of images and videos made with the new Canon EOS 6D. As suspected, their results are terrific.


Says who that they are terrific? Canon or CR admin?

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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #35 on: September 18, 2012, 03:15:16 PM »
Well, looking at that womans portrait I felt quite disappointed about 6D combined with an L-lense. With my 7d and 15-85IS USM I get sharper images! 6D can do it better, as it is shown in portrait of that little girl on canons sample site. And still even this one is far from glorius! I think it was taken by a click and shoot tourist walking by...   :) If not, shame on canon!  >:(

Anyway, I spent 2 minutes of my time and ran a little high-pass sharpening combined with rising contrast on that failed womans portrait. Ways better, as you can see below in the first row! (After that I got a little snotty and did the same to the nikon-image - just the other way around. * g * Perhaps those canon samples got a little sabotage?! Ehm...)

Well, Nikon MIGHT do a better job here. But couldn't it be possible that the Nikon-sample got a little postprocessing as well? Combined with a good out-of-cam picture it would not be a surprise that this beats the canon-crap-sample.

After all, those are not exact the same photographies. Different angle, different light and so on. For a fair comparison you NEED the same circumstances and published raws here. This is not given, so push those sample into the dustbin.  ;)
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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2012, 07:32:58 PM »

Anyway, I spent 2 minutes of my time and ran a little high-pass sharpening combined with rising contrast on that failed womans portrait. Ways better, as you can see below in the first row! (After that I got a little snotty and did the same to the nikon-image - just the other way around. * g * Perhaps those canon samples got a little sabotage .....

.... This is not given, so push those sample into the dustbin.  ;)

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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #36 on: September 18, 2012, 07:32:58 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: September 19, 2012, 10:17:00 AM »
Why the hell would Canon sabotage the shots of the 6D on their site? Why compress it so badly ? Where is their head?
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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #38 on: September 19, 2012, 01:14:16 PM »
Why the hell would Canon sabotage the shots of the 6D on their site? Why compress it so badly ? Where is their head?

Probably Canon figures no one will buy the 6d because of stellar sample shots anyway? Those who care about pixels are probably those who won't buy the 6d because of the bad spec/price ratio. And landscape tourists will look at the 17-40L shots @iso100 figuring that ff+gps+wifi will come in handy no matter what the d600 does.

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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2012, 05:19:59 AM »
let us believe the 6D is as good as the 5D MK2 on low iso.

then maybe it´s best for now to compare the D600 to the 5D MK2.   ;)
how well fares the 5D MK2 against the D600.....

there should be enough good 5D MK2 pictures. 

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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2012, 10:08:22 AM »
let us believe the 6D is as good as the 5D MK2 on low iso.

then maybe it´s best for now to compare the D600 to the 5D MK2.   ;)
how well fares the 5D MK2 against the D600.....

there should be enough good 5D MK2 pictures. 

 ;D

Pun notwithstanding.... With a larger pixel pitch and 4 years newer, it better not be same as the 5d2 in ISO...
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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2012, 01:50:07 PM »
All the samples are now out!

Image 4=ISO 6400 (61-sec. Bulb exposure, why include that pic???, horrible blotchy color noise in the shadows)
Image 7= ISO 1600 (soft overall, light BG flatters noise performance)
Image 8= ISO 800 (doesn't look that sharp for the top-of-the-line macro lens, no visible noise, as expected)

Conclusion: Image 5 model is still cute & hot  ;)

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos6d/

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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2012, 02:53:21 PM »
sensor should be better.

Nope, the Photokina interview tells us it's the same thing - but banding will probably be lower due to more recent readout circuits. Why do you think the mediocre sample shots are only up to iso1600 (except the nightsky) :-o ?

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« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2012, 02:53:21 PM »

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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2012, 03:55:54 PM »
maybe it´s my bad english.. with "should be better" i mean it is expected to be better because it´s a new sensor.. not that it is in fact better.

Ah, right, now I get it - I'm no native English speaker either... and new doesn't necessarily mean higher iq even in Canon's book, in the Photokina interview the exec clearly says it's a tradeoff w/ cost. So it's better for Canon, not for us :-p

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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2012, 04:43:19 PM »

Image 4=ISO 6400 (61-sec. Bulb exposure, why include that pic???, horrible blotchy color noise in the shadows)

http://web.canon.jp/imaging/eosd/samples/eos6d/

This is the first time I am going to say this in a forum: "Seriously! WTF?!"

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Re: Canon EOS 6D High Resolution Photo and Video Samples
« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2012, 04:43:19 PM »