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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2012, 07:46:13 PM »
1. Is anybody aware of the stronger AA filter?

I think it's a myth. I did super careful tests with a very sharp lens comparing both and the fine detail and micro-contrast captured on a bill was so close that it's really hard to say. The talk that is looks noticeably softer, as per some rumors, or noticeably sharper, as per others, seemed like a whole lot of nothing to me. Whatever difference there is would take realllllly careful 100% viewing and staring and starting and trying to figure out which one looked what way compared to the other.


I have based this conclusion from 2 facts:

Stills: Camera raw products showed the 5D3 to be less sharp than 5D2. Only when the DPP was updated sharpness became equal! So it seems that DPP boosts the sharpening for 5D3 somehow

Video:
http://tweets.planet5d.com/tweets/195145027335356416

After 9:15 It is admitted that 5D3 video is not very sharp to preserve information but it can be nicely
sharpened in Post Processing. Combining this with the  fact that Moire is mentioned to be absent then a strong AA filter is the logical conclusion

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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2012, 07:46:13 PM »

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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2012, 08:06:09 PM »
1. Is anybody aware of the stronger AA filter?

2. Or the fact that raw files at high ISO are not that different - according to DPreview samples -between 5D2 and 5D3? Are all of you shooting jpgs only and are so impressed with 5D3?

In order to not be misunderstood: I am interested in 5D3 too. I am just having second thoughts ...
The Raw files have a huge difference at ISO 12800 and higher, but at ISO 1600 are similar.  I bought mine to be able to use 12600 and higher ISO, and my 5D MK II is a total mess at ISO 12600.
It all depends on the definition of High ISO.
For some, the difference in AF speed and accuracy means little, however the auto ISO in manual is very useful.  It could be better, but its still a big plus over the MK II.
 
There is absolutely nothing wrong with the 5D Mark II, but you can look for reasons to keep it or get one, or you can look for reasons to buy a 5D Mark III.  It really depends on your mindset, but its hard to go far wrong.
I took 300+images of a Monster Truck that a friend drives a couple of weeks ago with my 5D Mark II.  It worked fine.  Then I boxed it up and sold it. I doubt that the Mark III would have done any better.
 

 

 

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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2012, 08:21:41 PM »
Hey...

Long time lurker,first time poster.

Have had d60, 10d ,1dmk2, 5d , 5d mk2

Gear is 35L , 85Lii, 100macro, 17-40L , 70-200mk2, and just this week a 24-70L mk2
And 600ex plus stert3, 2x550ex

Anyway,to the point- I've been sitting on the fence about jumping to mk3....
Have mk3 owners here generally upgraded from a mk2 or something older?
Since I now have mk2 of 24-70 and 70-200 plus new flash I'm thinking the mk3 would compliment my gear very well

I shoot mostly family stuff with a little concert photography as a sideline

Hello! I upgraded from a Mk 2 to the Mk 3 and have had absolutely no regrets. While many who specifically shoot landscape on a tripod at base ISO or studio at base ISO with controlled lighting may not benefit much from the Mk 3's improvements, for things like photographing children the markedly improved autofocus and higher frame rate makes a world of difference! The number of keepers increases exponentially. The higher ISO capabilities also help you obtain that extra bit of image quality out of the same shots you would have taken with your Mk 2 under the same settings or it allows you to push it that much more to capture the images that you couldn't take with the Mk 2 or wouldn't choose to save/salvage. The ergonomics/handling of the Mk 3 are noticeably improved. I actually enjoy holding my camera, even when I am not shooting.

If you are not hung up on or restricted by the price, I would highly recommend you consider upgrading. It does seem like you would benefit in both quality of photos and quality of shooting experience. If available in your area, I'd recommend renting the Mk 3 for a day even. For the all around general purpose photography that I like and find myself doing, photographing moving subjects, shooting from ISO 100-12,800, handheld HDR bracketing, etc, It has been worth every penny to me. I could or would not choose to go back to the Mk 2, which I appreciated for what it was and was designed mostly for, but always felt there were areas it was lacking. The Mk 3 has addressed those areas properly. Canon did listen to its user base.

Just thought I'd share, in case that helps. Good luck, whatever you do!
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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2012, 08:30:42 PM »
As Mt. Spokane referenced, today I loaded a portrait taken of a friend and I on Saturday, at ISO 12,800. With +12 noise and luminance noise reduction applied in Lightroom I had an acceptable, clean, usable image that I was quite content with. On my Mk 2 I was generally hesitant to resort to ISO 6400.
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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2012, 08:31:22 PM »
not upgraded yet, but have a 60D and a mk2 and am selling 4 lenses and both bodies for the next $2800 'sale'.

If they do a '7D' job next year with the 7D mkII (meaning better AF, faster FPS) then I may get a second body again, which makes me leery to sell my 15-75 which I love dearly.
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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2012, 10:23:26 PM »
hello i had a 5dii for 2 years and upgraded to 5diii,  i am not a pro just a father of a 10 year old and a 7 year old, as much as i loved my mk2 i would never go back, there is no comparison when it comes to autofocus system, i have 24-105l 4.0, 70-200 mk2 2.8, 16-35 mk2 2.8, i had the 24-70 mk1 2.8. 5dmk2 could never keep up with my kids even with the excelent 70-200 mk2 2.8L,  my 5dmk3 has no problem what so ever with tracking my kids while they are riding there bikes towards me and then pass me, my finger on the trigger shots are all in  focus and sharp. yes i mostly shoot jpegs when shooting action, shoot jpegs and raws when shooting portraits, jpegs are way sharper /better from the 5d3 and raws are about 1 stop better, i have only used dpp for raws, the camera just feels and handles so much better, i have over 15k shots with the 5dmk2 and have compaired with photos from 5d3 that i got from BH the 2nd day  it was released, no matter how many times i compair photos the 5d3 photos are always a bit sharper/cleaner. no rgrets love this camera and cant wait to get my hands on 24-70 mk2 2.8l

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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2012, 06:44:30 AM »
I got a 5D Mk.3 and sold it again. Since I am not earning money with this, I had to get some funding for larger telephoto lens. Now I decided to sell of my 5d2 and order a 6D. This will allow me the 24-70 II and something larger than my 70-200L. I have more flexibility without too much of a loss. Additionally I don't need hike around with my Samsung Galaxy and missuse it as GPS for tagging my pictures.

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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #21 on: September 25, 2012, 06:44:30 AM »

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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #22 on: September 25, 2012, 07:18:03 AM »
I did as I was never that bowled over by the MKII (I bought it on a whim when shopping for a new lens for a travel shoot a year and half before the MKIII was released ), I found the movie mode unintuitive so never used it.

I really enjoyed my MK I and had it for 5 years, the MKIII feels like the true successor to the MKI and I therefore hope to have that for a similar time period.

Ive also felt comfortable dabbling in a few movie mode shots with the MKIII while out and about taking photos.
« Last Edit: September 25, 2012, 08:03:28 AM by suburbia »

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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #23 on: September 25, 2012, 10:31:30 AM »
Hey...

Long time lurker,first time poster.

Have had d60, 10d ,1dmk2, 5d , 5d mk2

Gear is 35L , 85Lii, 100macro, 17-40L , 70-200mk2, and just this week a 24-70L mk2
And 600ex plus stert3, 2x550ex

Anyway,to the point- I've been sitting on the fence about jumping to mk3....
Have mk3 owners here generally upgraded from a mk2 or something older?
Since I now have mk2 of 24-70 and 70-200 plus new flash I'm thinking the mk3 would compliment my gear very well

I shoot mostly family stuff with a little concert photography as a sideline

I went from FF cameras like this

Yashica MAT-124G ----- Olympus OM-1 ------ Minolta Maxxum AF -------- 5Dc -------- 5D3

Never cared for the 5D MK2 series.  :P

The 5D3's AF is fantastic.

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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #24 on: September 25, 2012, 01:58:20 PM »
1. Is anybody aware of the stronger AA filter?

I think it's a myth. I did super careful tests with a very sharp lens comparing both and the fine detail and micro-contrast captured on a bill was so close that it's really hard to say. The talk that is looks noticeably softer, as per some rumors, or noticeably sharper, as per others, seemed like a whole lot of nothing to me. Whatever difference there is would take realllllly careful 100% viewing and staring and starting and trying to figure out which one looked what way compared to the other.


I have based this conclusion from 2 facts:

Stills: Camera raw products showed the 5D3 to be less sharp than 5D2. Only when the DPP was updated sharpness became equal! So it seems that DPP boosts the sharpening for 5D3 somehow

Video:
http://tweets.planet5d.com/tweets/195145027335356416

After 9:15 It is admitted that 5D3 video is not very sharp to preserve information but it can be nicely
sharpened in Post Processing. Combining this with the  fact that Moire is mentioned to be absent then a strong AA filter is the logical conclusion

I think the initial DPP was just bugged and was applying strong anti-moire tech at times when there should have been an option to turn it off.

Isn't that video discussing video moire? THat's a different thing. The 5D2 and the others did line skipping which introduces radical moire and aliasing. The 5D3 doesn't line skip and it also seems to filter things on top so the video doesn't have more than a bare hint of the nasty moire and such. But that is nothing to do with stills.

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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2012, 02:00:35 PM »
In sum, the 5D3 really does have a lot of nice things upgraded that it more natural and quicker to use, it's much more responsive, it has cleaner shadows at high ISO that can occasionally make a very big difference, as a stills cams it's generally really great other than the one real shame in the very old school low ISO dynamic range performance, the one letdown in an otherwise realllllly good camera.



(but again, if you do tripod-based landscape work and nothing else, then it makes little sense to spend so much for so little return for that case)
« Last Edit: September 25, 2012, 02:14:33 PM by LetTheRightLensIn »

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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2012, 02:04:04 PM »
Not it. I don't see the 5DIII as a worthwhile upgrade, not for the kind of work that I do, anyway.
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« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2012, 02:22:52 PM »
I did as well.  Held on to the 5D2, but have become so fond of the 5D3's AF that I can barely stand to use the 5D2 anymore.  Usually carry it as a second body and every time I pick it up there's a voice in my head that says "GAHHH!!!! where are all my AF points?!?!"
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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2012, 02:57:06 PM »
When I moved to a 5DII from a Pentax K-5 I found the focusing on the Canon far superior (whether that's because of the body or the lenses or both together I can't really say), so I'm amused to read here all the complaints about focusing on the 5DII. 

But I may be a bit odd: I only use center point focusing (an ancient habit having died hard) and have not yet been interested in photographing things/people/animals moving fast.  Would I find center point focusing more accurate on the 5DIII?  (Aside from that, the only feature of the 5DIII that interests me is better low light performance - and again, coming from a non-FF camera the low light performance of the 5DII looks pretty impressive to me.)

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Re: Who upgraded from 5d mk2 to mk3 ?
« Reply #29 on: September 25, 2012, 03:02:38 PM »
I did. The m3 is so much better in every way possible. Best choice
In every way possible? Why are you lying like this?

Yes, the Mark 3 is faster, has very nice AF, and very nice high ISO performance, but when it comes to low ISO shooting (bellow ISO 800), there is zero difference in IQ and DR.

On low ISO settings, the 5D3 = 5D2.

And the banding is still there.



« Last Edit: September 25, 2012, 03:07:14 PM by Ricku »

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