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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2012, 05:17:04 PM »
I eagerly await a true 1Ds Mark IV as well, which is what this camera should be called, but obviously CANNOT be called that now.  Who knows about the name, but I bet $5k price.
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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2012, 05:17:04 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2012, 05:45:54 PM »
well i take pictures with a dslr for 7 years now.
95% of my pictures are taken with ISO under 6400.

i really don´t know what people need ISO 25600 and above.

and i wonder how these people have worked before.....

Good question!  Sometimes ISO 25,600 is necessary for shooting sports at night in order to achieve high shutter-speeds.  I was frequently using the 1D MKIV at ISO 12,800  f/2.8 and 1/1000sec for night games in order to freeze the athlete, and those settings were for decent lighting.

If the stadium lighting was poor, then I could slow down my SS to 1/800sec or 1/500sec and risk getting subject motion blur, or now on the 1DX, I could increase my ISO to 25,600 and apply some further noise reduction in post.

Another benefit would be, if you need to add a 1.4X teleconverter which drops the maximum aperture to f/4, then the higher ISO will also come in handy due to the loss of an f-stop.

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2012, 05:46:18 PM »
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So, October 2012 will be the pre-announcement announcement.

Then summer/fall 2013 will be the announcement.

Shipping by early 2014 for sure? Almost sure?

Lots of time to "save up" meanwhile -- start cutting grass and shoveling snow, youngsters.
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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2012, 05:48:50 PM »
that sounds to be an impressive body!  And actually, this has me liking the 6d a little bit more...  The 'new' 6d sensor may very well be based on this sensor?  Either way, this isn't what I need, but yeah, I do want...lol
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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2012, 05:50:22 PM »
Yeah, you're probably right, it could be a 4D, but the low ISO range of 100 to 12,800 and not 50 to 51,200 or 101,400 threw me. Is this going to be a $4,999 EOS 4D designed for Studio or outdoor Landscape photography where low-light is not an issue?

well i take pictures with a dslr for 7 years now.
95% of my pictures are taken with ISO under 6400.

i really don´t know what people need ISO 25600 and above.

and i wonder how these people have worked before.....

Night sports.  For instances when everyone else has stopped shooting and you're firing away at 1/1000s and printing 8 x 10's.  That's what it's for.
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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2012, 05:55:33 PM »
If its a 5Dx for 4099$. I'm so buying one.  ;D

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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2012, 05:56:39 PM »
Yeah, you're probably right, it could be a 4D, but the low ISO range of 100 to 12,800 and not 50 to 51,200 or 101,400 threw me. Is this going to be a $4,999 EOS 4D designed for Studio or outdoor Landscape photography where low-light is not an issue?

well i take pictures with a dslr for 7 years now.
95% of my pictures are taken with ISO under 6400.

i really don´t know what people need ISO 25600 and above.

and i wonder how these people have worked before.....

And I wonder how people got around before, when there were no cars...... yes, they got around, but it took a while and was a LOT more difficult.

Get my point?

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2012, 05:56:39 PM »

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2012, 06:02:30 PM »
46mp @5fps wow wonder what the buffer will be if true, and shudder to think what the price will be bet it will make the 5D3 entry price look like a real bargin! good to see though

I'd love a 32MP at 7fps and good low iso DR and 4k video in C300-style blocks even more ;D ;D ;D.

Or 39MP and 6fps and good low ISO DR. losing the 1 fps to go 39MP to 46MP is not worth it. at 6fps it can also do action much better than at 5fps.

But anyway it may be a very nice cam 46 5fps mix in top low ISO DR and 5D3 AF and 5D3 size (please not a 1 series brick). And at least 5fps starts getting you there. It would be awesome if they gave it a crop mode so you don't need to waste so much space on far off subjects and boosted fps to 6-8fps for crop mode. All that and it makes the D800 look pretty weak. Lot of IFs though. Wonder what kind of video they can get out of a 46MP sensor though.

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2012, 06:04:41 PM »
Should I sell my 1dx??

Very confused: 18mpx for $7000.00
46mpx for HOW MUCH?

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« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2012, 06:05:24 PM »
Yeah, you're probably right, it could be a 4D, but the low ISO range of 100 to 12,800 and not 50 to 51,200 or 101,400 threw me. Is this going to be a $4,999 EOS 4D designed for Studio or outdoor Landscape photography where low-light is not an issue?
Well I take pictures with a dslr for 7 years now.
95% of my pictures are taken with ISO under 6400.
I really don´t know what people need ISO 25600 and above.
And I wonder how these people have worked before.....

Yes most photographers would shoot the majority of their work under 6400iso, probably under 800iso. But having the option of ramping up to 12,800iso or beyond in fading or very low light to still deliver shots for your client is a godsend.

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« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2012, 06:05:37 PM »
I eagerly await a true 1Ds Mark IV as well, which is what this camera should be called, but obviously CANNOT be called that now.  Who knows about the name, but I bet $5k price.
Bet they call it the 4Ds Mark I  ;D and it will certainly not cost a cent less than $4,999 (well initially)

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2012, 06:43:38 PM »
really? THIS camera gets 5fps and the 6D doesn't? at 16bit per pixel that means 3.7GBit/s transfer speed into ram...the 1DX at 18MP with 14bit per pixel at 14fps calculates to 3.5GBits/s

that means its gonna cost more than the 5DmkIII...much closer to the 1DX I think. 4500-5500 bucks I guess.
4D as a name sounds plausible regarding recent 4D-name-spottings in app-screenshots.

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2012, 07:00:07 PM »
I guess the use case would be astrophotographers who want to be able to shoot at 12,800 and print big.
Astrophotographers want low noise. Shooting at the high end of the rumored available ISO (12800) should not produce low noise photographs. 5D3 or 1DX are more suitable.

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2012, 07:00:07 PM »

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2012, 07:08:17 PM »
46.1 mp eh? I imagine that would allow Canon show optical superiority of its lenses in comparison to the competition ( and hopefully not vice cersa  ;))... 

If the specs are true, my guess also would be 5Kish. Cannot see the need for 5fps on a 46 mp camera though...

It would be awesome if they gave it a crop mode so you don't need to waste so much space on far off subjects and boosted fps to 6-8fps for crop mode.
+1

Let's hope that the rumor at NL few weeks ago  becomes true:
It's suggested that there will be a preview of this camera at a post Photokina event, with the emphasis on resolution, dynamic range and a true challenge to digital MF.
The camera is aimed at showing 'clear technical leadership'.


http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_1D_Xs.html


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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2012, 07:11:28 PM »
What about RAW file size, assuming the resolution is correct => 8,142 x 5,428 x 16 = 707,116,416 bits so divide by 8 ( 8 bits = 1 byte) becomes 88,389,552 bytes, so divide by 1,024 to get kilobytes = 86,317 Kb (or about 86MB) per image shot x 5 shots per second equals nearly half a gigabyte of your card gone in just 1 sec, so 30 secs @ hi-speed continuous shooting and your 16GB CF card is full!

edit: had to re-read that was 46.1MP and not 48.1MP
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« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2012, 07:11:28 PM »