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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2012, 07:12:22 PM »
Do we really believe Canon is all of a sudden capable of developing a 46 MP sensor with good iso and great DR?  The technology involved in such a beast would have to be far more advanced than the current sesnsors in 5D III and 1DX, and it wouldn't surprise me if D800 outshines it in both high iso (likely, esp with lower MP) and DR (as usual).

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« Reply #30 on: September 22, 2012, 07:12:22 PM »

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« Reply #31 on: September 22, 2012, 07:23:06 PM »
Do we really believe Canon is all of a sudden capable of developing a 46 MP sensor with good iso and great DR?  The technology involved in such a beast would have to be far more advanced than the current sesnsors in 5D III and 1DX, and it wouldn't surprise me if D800 outshines it in both high iso (likely, esp with lower MP) and DR (as usual).

Now that is a good question! Unless they were almost ready and they were simply getting the most out of their old technology and ... our  money! (Which confuses me: Must I use this  ;D or that  >:( ?)

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« Reply #32 on: September 22, 2012, 07:35:47 PM »
HAHAHAHA This is so funny, only a few months ago most of you were slating the d800 saying that it was over kill in MP,file size and that 22MP was the ideal number.
Now theres hints of a canon 46MP thats all out the window.
It will be interesting to see how this pans out, I can't see it having such specs with so hi Mp,fps and iso performance.

I wouldn't be surprised if it actual did come out but as more of a MF rival in a larger,extremely expensive body c300 style maybe.

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« Reply #33 on: September 22, 2012, 07:41:21 PM »
Finally some relative credible rumors and 16 bit. I believe will be in a 5D3 Body (not 1D) aimed directly to studio work. At those specs will be at around $ 5K.
For what i do... regarding photography... 46 MP is a blessing from haven

I really, really hope this will be true
I hope you are right if it's true I might get one if iq is good but I'm not interested in a 1d body
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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #34 on: September 22, 2012, 07:42:44 PM »
HAHAHAHA This is so funny, only a few months ago most of you were slating the d800 saying that it was over kill in MP,file size and that 22MP was the ideal number.
Now theres hints of a canon 46MP thats all out the window.
It will be interesting to see how this pans out, I can't see it having such specs with so hi Mp,fps and iso performance.

I wouldn't be surprised if it actual did come out but as more of a MF rival in a larger,extremely expensive body c300 style maybe.

"Most?"  That's a fairly unfounded word to use, don't you think?  You can count me out of the "most" because I think it's fine the D800 has 36MP, even though I don't personally need 36 MP's. 
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« Reply #35 on: September 22, 2012, 07:44:45 PM »
Let me guess - yet another recycling of the T2i/60D/7D/T3i/T4i/ pixels, just in a larger sensor.

18*(1.6*1.6) = 46.1

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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2012, 07:49:55 PM »
Do we really believe Canon is all of a sudden capable of developing a 46 MP sensor with good iso and great DR?  The technology involved in such a beast would have to be far more advanced than the current sesnsors in 5D III and 1DX, and it wouldn't surprise me if D800 outshines it in both high iso (likely, esp with lower MP) and DR (as usual).

Well they did say it would be one of those on the horizon announcements so it may be still 18 months to stores or something which might make it at least a possibility.

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« Reply #36 on: September 22, 2012, 07:49:55 PM »

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« Reply #37 on: September 22, 2012, 07:50:54 PM »
Finally some relative credible rumors and 16 bit. I believe will be in a 5D3 Body (not 1D) aimed directly to studio work. At those specs will be at around $ 5K.
For what i do... regarding photography... 46 MP is a blessing from haven

I really, really hope this will be true
I hope you are right if it's true I might get one if iq is good but I'm not interested in a 1d body

Yeah I hope it comes in a nice 5D3-type body, not some 1 series brick.

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2012, 08:07:00 PM »
Let me guess - yet another recycling of the T2i/60D/7D/T3i/T4i/ pixels, just in a larger sensor.

18*(1.6*1.6) = 46.1

The limited ISOs would indicate you are correct.  It looks like Canon still can't touch Nikon's (Sony's) EXMOR sensor, otherwise the ISO range would be much greater.

I'd say Canon, for the first time in man years, has definitely taken a back seat in sensor performance to Nikon.  I'll wait to see the final product that hits the streets, but those who were waiting for Canon to respond to the D800 may be a little disappointed with the answer they get.  Me being one of them.

Here's hoping it's better than 12,800.

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« Reply #39 on: September 22, 2012, 08:13:18 PM »
Based upon these specifications (if true -and they're probably not entirely, if at all  ;)) it looks like this is going to be in a 1-series body.  If you look at the interview over at Imaging Resource:

http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2012/09/20/qa-with-canons-mike-owen-behind-the-scenes-in-developing-the-6D-and-whats (Thanks to Northlight Images for the link]

it seems that Canon feel that the 20MP class is a 'sweet-spot' for full frame cameras and lenses.  Thus, it would be natural for them to view a 40MP class camera as a specialist tool for professionals.  This leans towards 1-series in my book... So out of most people's price bracket.

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2012, 08:53:11 PM »
Let me guess - yet another recycling of the T2i/60D/7D/T3i/T4i/ pixels, just in a larger sensor.
18*(1.6*1.6) = 46.1

That is no necessarily a bad thing IF they can make massive performance to the low ISO dynamic range.

The 16 MP D7000 sensor is an excellent performer, just like the 36 MP D800 sensor:
16*1.5*1.5 = 36

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2012, 08:54:05 PM »
Let me guess - yet another recycling of the T2i/60D/7D/T3i/T4i/ pixels, just in a larger sensor.

18*(1.6*1.6) = 46.1

Exactly because of that I'm doubting this Rumor. The nu,bers fit way too smoothly.

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« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2012, 09:17:10 PM »
Let me guess - yet another recycling of the T2i/60D/7D/T3i/T4i/ pixels, just in a larger sensor.

18*(1.6*1.6) = 46.1

Exactly because of that I'm doubting this Rumor. The nu,bers fit way too smoothly.

Your logic is around the wrong way.

If it was 44MP then everyone would be thinking "Huh?" because it would not be a full frame MP count based on an APS-C sensor.

For example, if you take the 8.2MP 20D/30D (6.4um pixel pitch) and expand that up, you have 8.2*(1.6*1.6) = 20.9, which is almost the 21MP resolution of the 5D Mark II (6.4um pixel pitch).

The 40D's sensor only gives 25MP at full frame, and the 50D's 38.6.

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« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2012, 09:17:10 PM »

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2012, 09:28:23 PM »
Well this is pretty much what I've been predicting all along.

I'm still calling it a 5D HD and believe it will be essentially the same body with a different sensor plopped in. I am surprised at the frame rate, I thought it would be lower. I wonder if they will give over some processing power to the frame rate by putting a more modest autofocus in this one. Not sure the people using this camera will need the 5DIII or 1DX autofocus. I've said it will be the same price as the 5DIII. Possibly it will come in slightly higher, but I don't see this as a 1-series body.

Yes, as 46mp, this looks like Canon will used the same sensor in this as they use in the next generation of 7D and probably 60D. With three years of experience with the 18mp (46 mp equivalent) it may mean Canon has decided to just improve upon what they already produce instead of trying for ever-more pixels. That's consistent with everything they've been doing the past year (1DX, 5DIII, 6D, T4i).

This bodes well for 7D users. Canon must deliver acceptable noise for the full frame body (Not sure I'm buying the 12,800 as clean, but if it is good at 6,400 or even 3,200 that would be a significant improvement) and since they'll likely use the same sensor in the 7DII at least, the APS-C version should perform identically.
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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2012, 10:03:26 PM »
What gets me is people thinking this may be cheaper than the 1Dx.  If you compared the price of the 1Ds Mark III and 1D Mark IV.. I guess ideas would be more persuaded and logical.
Also, I presume it would be in a 1D type body, if not a 5D body. I don't think it would be the successor of the 7D, because it's completely pointless changing a sports style APS-C into a FF/APS-H (APS-H would be silly for this too) landscape/studio camera.
I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up be something like a 1Ds Mark IV (would be funny in some way too, I suppose).
Anyway, I guess the best we can do is wait and see the outcome.
5 fps for a 46.1mp camera seems quite nice too.  But it's going to cost a hell of a lot. I wouldn't be surprised seeing it around the $7,000 mark.
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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
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