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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2012, 04:43:56 AM »
Let it be around 30-40Mpix with good AF AND  greater DR and no visible banding when post processing. So at the end I think I would like to have a Nikon :)... maybe with some Canon optics. ISO max Could be 6400 . And we have a perfect camera which could keep Canon customers. Otherwise there no argument for Canon. So far event D600 outshines the canon's flagship camera in all sensor aspects.
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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #60 on: September 23, 2012, 04:43:56 AM »

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #61 on: September 23, 2012, 04:56:15 AM »
$$$$$8000 in Canon's NEW overpriced world. No thanks.
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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #62 on: September 23, 2012, 04:59:01 AM »
I don't want to get everyone's hopes up, but I saw a pro testing a canon ff body for architecture yesterday with all the logos taped out. They were using the tse 17, so I know it was canon and...it was a 5d style body

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #63 on: September 23, 2012, 05:17:32 AM »
Some call me visionary...or just a good guesser  ;D:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=8347.msg165227#msg165227

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #64 on: September 23, 2012, 06:57:08 AM »
Look, let's get down to the nitty gritty. I work for a camera retailer and I can guarantee you that since April the D800 has outsold the 5D Mk3 by a 5 to 1 ratio. This explains recent price drops on the body and the deal struck with the Adorama ebay site.
Could it be different form country to country? In my region I see quite a lot of 5DIII's but hardly any D800.
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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #65 on: September 23, 2012, 06:58:05 AM »
Look, let's get down to the nitty gritty. I work for a camera retailer and I can guarantee you that since April the D800 has outsold the 5D Mk3 by a 5 to 1 ratio. This explains recent price drops on the body and the deal struck with the Adorama ebay site.

This post says more than most of the opines here (including mine).

Personally I'd MUCH prefer a 1D body with that 46MP, but regardless I was ready to buy any new body this year to upgrade my 5DMKII. Instead Canon came out with nothing interesting. I love the 1DX overall, but 18MP? Same for the 5DMKIII, that's a lot of money for AF the mmii should have had.

Bring it on Canon! Let's see some innovation.

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #66 on: September 23, 2012, 06:59:20 AM »
Look, let's get down to the nitty gritty. I work for a camera retailer and I can guarantee you that since April the D800 has outsold the 5D Mk3 by a 5 to 1 ratio. This explains recent price drops on the body and the deal struck with the Adorama ebay site.
Could it be different form country to country? In my region I see quite a lot of 5DIII's but hardly any D800.

Ha ha ... because maybe it's sold out?

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #66 on: September 23, 2012, 06:59:20 AM »

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #67 on: September 23, 2012, 07:01:34 AM »
Look, Canon gave us what we asked for and then we snubbed them; decided we wanted everything that we said we didn't need.

Then Canon read the market wrong. If true, then sometimes you have to know what people want, even if they don't know themselves. Apple used to be good at this.

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #68 on: September 23, 2012, 07:10:22 AM »
46mp with 16bit ADC? I can see that Cannot is working with Malcodesoft to trash all current computers.

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #69 on: September 23, 2012, 07:30:55 AM »
Watch out for Nikon crew, they're on a roll and they're not done yet.

D5100's 16MP * 1.5 * 1.5 = 36MP D800, and they have very similar base ISO performance

D3200's 24MP * 1.5 * 1.5 = 54MP D4x?, and would have very similar base ISO performance + all the extra goodness a high end body would add... and that's still over 1 EV better base ISO DR than Canon's current best-tested tho were waiting/hoping the 1Dx and 6D will fare better than the 5d3.

But if they're considering a FF version of the sensor tech used in current 18MP APS-C bodies...  Well... no thanks.
Go back to the drawing board, or better yet, the patent office and search for some better tech to license.

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Look, Canon gave us what we asked for and then we snubbed them; decided we wanted everything that we said we didn't need.



Because they did one thing extremely wrong: price :)

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #70 on: September 23, 2012, 07:32:47 AM »
I bet this will utilize the CFast 2.0 standard (up to 600MB/s) instead of the XQD 2.0 one (1000MB/s) because it would provide backward compatibility and is fast enough to keep up with the body's needs.

CFast is not backward compatible with CF.
From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CompactFlash :
"CFast cards are not physically or electrically compatible with CompactFlash cards."

Huh? What's the use then? Look like it's gonna turn into another format war with Nikon, Sony and Lexar behind XQD versus Canon, Phase One and Sandisk behind CFast:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-57516672-1/cfast-2.0-splits-high-end-flash-card-market/

One more thing to worry about when switching systems  :-\
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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #71 on: September 23, 2012, 08:02:30 AM »
CFast is not backward compatible with CF.
Huh? What's the use then?

It's use is to make you confuse it with vanilla cf, giving the format an advantage over competitors - seems to work :-)

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #72 on: September 23, 2012, 08:59:01 AM »
Hi ya people :)

Look, let's get down to the nitty gritty. I work for a camera retailer and I can guarantee you that since April the D800 has outsold the 5D Mk3 by a 5 to 1 ratio. This explains recent price drops on the body and the deal struck with the Adorama ebay site.

Sure, the camera has sold okay, but not in huge quantities like the previous Mk2. I'm pretty sure that Canon has lots of stock sitting in warehouses, just as sure as they would deny this. Sales have just picked up a little recently because of the 5D Mk3 Professional Kit with the 24-70 MkII.

Look, Canon gave us what we asked for and then we snubbed them; decided we wanted everything that we said we didn't need.

The 46mp sensor has been rumoured to have been around for at least two years. Canon obviously held back believing people would definitely be happy with a 22mp, better iso camera. We proved Canon wrong. Look, I believe even a few more megapixels, 28mp, would have kept people happy.

Canon needs to bring out the 46mp ASAP. Nikon is 'killing' them at the moment. It can't be a 1 D body. If they want lots of sales they need a 5D body, 5D X, or whatever they want to call it. It needs to be reasonably priced, just above the D800, $500 or so above it. This will bring in the crowds.

Or, they could completely stuff it up. Make it a 1 D type body that is super expensive and that 4,000 or 5,000 might buy worldwide. WAKE UP CANON !!! :)

Before I am torn to shreds, I'll  let the wonderful readers of this forum know that I still have my 5D Mk2 and recently bought a 5D Mk3 which I am very happy with.

I, however, like all of you, would like Canon to continue doing well into the future, and the reality is that they have dropped the ball in recent years. The 5D Mk2 was a game changer; come on Canon bring out the 46mp out that blows both Nikon and Sony out of the water.

Look this is my two cents worth, my reality check for Canon. Take it as you will.

Signing Out...

Baloney.  Nikon isn't selling anything at 5:1 globally over Canon, maybe in some small market store that is Nikon focused but go to B&H (world's largest retailer on and offline) any day. and the crowd around the Canon pit is always 2-4x the size of the crowd in the Nikon pit...and that's before, during, and after the 5DIII launched.  I'm there at least once or twice per week.  How is it you work in a camera store and are still fixated by MP?  Nikon killing Canon?  Huh, read the Nikon fan boys rants about their own performance issues.  All the spec sheet talk about the D600 vs 6D...and then it is confirmed by Nikon at Photokina two days ago (to Philip Bloom ) that the D600 doesn't even allow manual settings in video...I mean, really?  Killing Canon?  Canon has manual video in the Rebel series.  There is a reason some cameras have gone backwards in MP in many cases both pro and consumer, see the recent G series and Powershot series over the past few years and 1Dx. 
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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #72 on: September 23, 2012, 08:59:01 AM »

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #73 on: September 23, 2012, 09:28:25 AM »
Hi ya people :)

Look, let's get down to the nitty gritty. I work for a camera retailer and I can guarantee you that since April the D800 has outsold the 5D Mk3 by a 5 to 1 ratio. This explains recent price drops on the body and the deal struck with the Adorama ebay site.

Sure, the camera has sold okay, but not in huge quantities like the previous Mk2. I'm pretty sure that Canon has lots of stock sitting in warehouses, just as sure as they would deny this. Sales have just picked up a little recently because of the 5D Mk3 Professional Kit with the 24-70 MkII.

Look, Canon gave us what we asked for and then we snubbed them; decided we wanted everything that we said we didn't need.

The 46mp sensor has been rumoured to have been around for at least two years. Canon obviously held back believing people would definitely be happy with a 22mp, better iso camera. We proved Canon wrong. Look, I believe even a few more megapixels, 28mp, would have kept people happy.

Canon needs to bring out the 46mp ASAP. Nikon is 'killing' them at the moment. It can't be a 1 D body. If they want lots of sales they need a 5D body, 5D X, or whatever they want to call it. It needs to be reasonably priced, just above the D800, $500 or so above it. This will bring in the crowds.

Or, they could completely stuff it up. Make it a 1 D type body that is super expensive and that 4,000 or 5,000 might buy worldwide. WAKE UP CANON !!! :)

Before I am torn to shreds, I'll  let the wonderful readers of this forum know that I still have my 5D Mk2 and recently bought a 5D Mk3 which I am very happy with.

I, however, like all of you, would like Canon to continue doing well into the future, and the reality is that they have dropped the ball in recent years. The 5D Mk2 was a game changer; come on Canon bring out the 46mp out that blows both Nikon and Sony out of the water.

Look this is my two cents worth, my reality check for Canon. Take it as you will.

Signing Out...

Baloney.  Nikon isn't selling anything at 5:1 globally over Canon, maybe in some small market store that is Nikon focused but go to B&H (world's largest retailer on and offline) any day. and the crowd around the Canon pit is always 2-4x the size of the crowd in the Nikon pit...and that's before, during, and after the 5DIII launched.  I'm there at least once or twice per week.  How is it you work in a camera store and are still fixated by MP?  Nikon killing Canon?  Huh, read the Nikon fan boys rants about their own performance issues.  All the spec sheet talk about the D600 vs 6D...and then it is confirmed by Nikon at Photokina two days ago (to Philip Bloom ) that the D600 doesn't even allow manual settings in video...I mean, really?  Killing Canon?  Canon has manual video in the Rebel series.  There is a reason some cameras have gone backwards in MP in many cases both pro and consumer, see the recent G series and Powershot series over the past few years and 1Dx.

Seriously, no manual video controls for the D600? The uncompressed video feed was very tempting, but no control relieves me, now the D600 is just an overpriced D7000 that has an FX sensor thrown in :)
Though, the rebels, at least the first few didn't have much video manual control as well anyways, you can adjust the exposure compensation at least... though, Canon has Magic Lantern, and now that the 7D has been hacked~
Although, Canon hasn't evolved with it's DSLR video much past the MKII, they decided to go all out with the C series and now Sony, Nikon (at least not the D600) and M4/3 cams are better equipped and capable.

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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #74 on: September 23, 2012, 10:02:22 AM »
$$$$$8000 in Canon's NEW overpriced world. No thanks.

Did you make that up yourself? Or did you copy it off another moron from another thread? Canon's pricing hasn't changed much. Newbies who came in recently who thought the 24-70 was supposed to be priced just above 1000$ probably didn't experience it's release price of 2100$. And now they cry over the mark II version. So let's talk about cameras. Let's go back a bit to the days where the cost of producing a professional level photograph cost more than your mortgage for a typical 3 bedroom house. Okay, now let's look at more recent models. The 1Ds mark III, and the 5D mark III. Which would you rather shoot now? Would you pay double the price for half the performance? Or are we paying half the price now for (obviously) more than double the performance AND the flexibility? The 7D, and any XXD series camera. At launch pricing. I thought so. The pricing game hasn't changed as much as you think, we just have more players in the mix now.
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Re: 46.1mp Canon DSLR Previewed at PhotoPlus 2012? [CR1]
« Reply #74 on: September 23, 2012, 10:02:22 AM »