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EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« on: September 23, 2012, 11:18:39 AM »
Sensor delays
A new sensor line will appear in 2013 that will be seen across the entire APS-C lineup. Expect to see the first announcements in the first half of 2013.

The delays in developing the sensor was apparently a big reason for the big firmware update for the 7D. It’s also suggested that there may not be a 7D/60D amalgamation in the future. The 7D Mark II will not be an APS-H camera as some have wished/rumored.

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EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« on: September 23, 2012, 11:18:39 AM »

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2012, 11:23:07 AM »
Does that mean there will be no 70D (am I reading this correctly), but there will be a 7D2 with the same shared sensor as a new 700D/T5i?

edit: cannot see Canon launching a 70D and 700D in the same season
« Last Edit: September 23, 2012, 11:28:54 AM by DB »

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2012, 11:30:08 AM »
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<strong>Sensor delays<br />


</strong>A new sensor line will appear in 2013 that will be seen across the entire APS-C lineup. Expect to see the first announcements in the first half of 2013.</p>
<p>The delays in developing the sensor was apparently a big reason for the big firmware update for the 7D. It’s also suggested that there may not be a 7D/60D amalgamation in the future. The 7D Mark II will not be an APS-H camera as some have wished/rumored.</p>
<p>Source: [<a href=\"http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_3d.html\" target=\"_blank\">NL</a>]</p>
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A new sensor is very good news. However, I still doubt anyone will ever be happy in this forum AKA Canon's unofficial complaint box.
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2012, 11:46:31 AM »
I wonder if it will make its way into the EOS M line.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2012, 11:52:41 AM »
Hi,
Does that mean there will be no 70D (am I reading this correctly), but there will be a 7D2 with the same shared sensor as a new 700D/T5i?

edit: cannot see Canon launching a 70D and 700D in the same season
   It's said 7DII, 70D & 700D... Will be very interesting if they launch 3 DSLR with the number 7 in one event (I doubt Canon will do that)... ha ha ha  8)

   Have a nice day.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2012, 12:01:31 PM »
This sounds like great news to me.

Canon - pay attention.

7DII - 5DIII/1DX based AF system, WITH f/8 AF sensors at the center.
Flexible video crop (full-frame to 1:1 crop in all modes) for all these cameras.
5DIII firmware update to include flexible video cropping.

Give me that (and good sensor performance, obviously), and I might be in for BOTH a 7DII and a 5DIII.

Big time bonus - native DNG format, including the option to use the new lossy DNG raw format (huge, huge advantage over MRAW/SRAW).  Include this in the above-mentioned 5DIII firmware update.

Yeah...I'd definitely crack open the checkbook for that.

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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2012, 12:05:30 PM »
hoped to see a new sensor earlier.... at least make it worth the wait this time.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2012, 12:11:04 PM »
This sounds like great news to me.

Canon - pay attention.

7DII - 5DIII/1DX based AF system, WITH f/8 AF sensors at the center.
Flexible video crop (full-frame to 1:1 crop in all modes) for all these cameras.
5DIII firmware update to include flexible video cropping.

Give me that (and good sensor performance, obviously), and I might be in for BOTH a 7DII and a 5DIII.

Big time bonus - native DNG format, including the option to use the new lossy DNG raw format (huge, huge advantage over MRAW/SRAW).  Include this in the above-mentioned 5DIII firmware update.

Yeah...I'd definitely crack open the checkbook for that.

It would be nice for them to use DNG, however I suspect not. I mean, after all, it drives people to use their DPP, at least for a little while after a new camera release.

Beyond that, allowing up to a 1:1 video crop is quite an interesting concept, although matters less to me since I mostly just do stills. However, if you could do a crop in camera (more to save space while still maintaining 1:1 pixels used/pixels recorded), that could be really interesting.
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2012, 12:20:20 PM »
I wonder if it will make its way into the EOS M line.
I really hope so, but I still don't think canon is putting much effort on the eos m line as long as they can dominant the APSC DSLR market.

This first eos m just tells us that canon is in this market now and they will not introduce anything smaller than APSC size. The delays in developing the sensor may also one of the reasons why they just released a very entry level at the beginning instead of aiming for more advanced market.

At least we all know now that canon do realise they have some catch up work to do in this area and I hope they don't just upgrade the body without improving the sensor then put a high price tag on it.
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2012, 12:20:57 PM »
Announcements in the first half of 2013. Delivery in 2014. Can someone give me a wake up call?

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2012, 12:23:41 PM »
Beyond that, allowing up to a 1:1 video crop is quite an interesting concept, although matters less to me since I mostly just do stills. However, if you could do a crop in camera (more to save space while still maintaining 1:1 pixels used/pixels recorded), that could be really interesting.

Realize the T2i and 60D have this already for 640x480 mode, and the T3i has it for 1920x1080 mode.

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Re: EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2012, 12:31:46 PM »
I love it when a plan comes together.

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=8175.msg149586#msg149586

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« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2012, 12:45:33 PM »
Okay, I admit I was wrong about some of the features of the 6D. No touch screen, no flip screen and it does have micro-focus adjustment. You can take some deductions from my score for those, but if the 46 mp camera emerges, I want extra points for calling that one. :)

It seems that both touch screen & swivel screens were a fad. According to Canon you don't need either with WiFi, plus with the German 6D video showing the EOS Utility now built-in to WLAN mode on the 6D, even custom presets now are no longer limited (after all if you're wirelessly using EOS Utility with MacBook or Laptop/iPad, you can upload new C1/C2/C3 settings from your computer 'on-the-fly' without touching your DSLR on it's tripod).

We can probably assume that all new EOS models will have WiFi as standard, although with wireless EOS Utility now a core feature on the 6D, it must not resonate too well with those WiFi-less 5D3's and 1DX's.

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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2012, 01:17:27 PM »
Flexible video crop (full-frame to 1:1 crop in all modes) for all these cameras.
5DIII firmware update to include flexible video cropping.
...
Big time bonus - native DNG format, including the option to use the new lossy DNG raw format (huge, huge advantage over MRAW/SRAW).  Include this in the above-mentioned 5DIII firmware update.

Yeah...I'd definitely crack open the checkbook for that.

I do not. All you videots ... stop your whining over bloody video features in bloody stills cameras, especially in DSLRS. Get it into your head, that a DSRL is the single worst possible videocam .. by its very nature. Now go away. Leave us in peace. Do yourself a favour and buy a decent camcorder from Canon or from Sony ...  loaded with all the video crap on earth. Zebra stripes, all sorts of video output options, audio levels, 99 microphones, and anything more. Today these camcorders even come cheaper than a 5D III ... 3000 USD for a Sony VEX Full Frame HD camcorder ... just buy it and vanish from the stills photography sections of forums.
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Re: EOS 7D Mark II, EOS 70D & 700D in 2013? [CR1]
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2012, 01:25:37 PM »
I hope that the shutter on my 50D will keep on running long enough for a decent replacement...
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