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Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« on: September 27, 2012, 09:35:05 PM »
I am going to a wedding where all my family will be in. I am not the pro here but my family expects me to get decent shots. I am bringing my 5d3 with 24-105 to travel light with the 600ex. I was thinking using AV starting with f4 and auto iso up to 3200. Any other suggestions?
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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2012, 05:56:42 PM »
I am going to a wedding where all my family will be in. I am not the pro here but my family expects me to get decent shots. I am bringing my 5d3 with 24-105 to travel light with the 600ex. I was thinking using AV starting with f4 and auto iso up to 3200. Any other suggestions?

Outdoors, you can start at higher f-stop (if there's enough light). In terms of where to start indoors, if you're using the 600EX as either either direct or bounce, you should take a couple of test shots to dial in the ISO (I wouldn't go directly to 3200), shutter (for the ambient light), and f-stop. You should also dial in the 600EX with FEB (flash exposure balance). Once you have that set, you can pretty easily dial in the EV as the night goes on.

EDIT: Forgot to mention, choose what AF mode you are comfortable with, although I would recommend not using all of the points, since you never know which point it'll grab. I've found zone is quite handy, or 1+8. Easy to move where you want the focus to be around the points, and gives it an opportunity to find focus with more than just a single point.
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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2012, 11:26:49 PM »
I went to rehearsal and found the church is low light and huge. The alter is bright with lots of white. My flash left something to be desired with the size of the room and I cannot shoot over 1/200 when they are walking by fast. I finally started bouncing it off the floor. I was able to get pretty decent shots with iso 5000 and no flash. My problem is I don't know where to get it to meter from because of my mixed results. I will post when I get a chance. I will try zone tommorrow and auto iso used iso 400 and over exposed my shot.
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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2012, 06:07:46 PM »
If its truly that dark maybe time to consider taking your 70-200 2.8 as well. With the 5d3 you should be safe up to iso 12k and since this is for family use probably up to 25k as well. Probably don't need to worry about the flash then.

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« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2012, 09:08:32 PM »
I understand you're doing this for family, so perhaps it won't matter but take backup lenses and body if possible. I had a two day old 5d2 fail at a wedding this June. Fortunately I had my 7d so I packed up the 5d and kept shooting. The bride never knew anything was wrong.

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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 05:46:40 PM »
I went to rehearsal and found the church is low light and huge. The alter is bright with lots of white. My flash left something to be desired with the size of the room and I cannot shoot over 1/200 when they are walking by fast. I finally started bouncing it off the floor. I was able to get pretty decent shots with iso 5000 and no flash. My problem is I don't know where to get it to meter from because of my mixed results. I will post when I get a chance. I will try zone tommorrow and auto iso used iso 400 and over exposed my shot.

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Just my few cents .... photography is all about controlling, playing and painting with lights. To be good, one have to understand the Quality, Directivity and Colour of lights and use them well to create that moment or tell that story you have in mind! If you know all these elements well, you will be surprised to find some of the best weddings or any photography around are taken with natural lightnings or sometimes co-mixed artificial with natural lightnings together to create that story or moment ... whether in creating a dramatic shot with highlights or creating a mood shot with shadows! All the Shutter Speed, Aperture, ISO and Flash Controls are just the elements you mix and match to create your "photo-paintings"! Perhaps these will give you some inspirations .... http://www.jasminestarblog.com/index.cfm?catID=2&weddings ... Good luck and Have Lots of Fun  ;)

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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 07:21:52 PM »
The 5D3 works very well at iso 6400. Just shoot raw and process the noise out later in photoshop or lightroom. Direct flash will kill most photos you get and it will disable the auto iso fuction in the camera (setting it at iso 400 if the flash is pointed forward). I normally shoot full manual in churches. For dark churches go with 6400 iso, and a speed of 100. If you shoot off angle you will see more blur but if you shoot strait on you see very little, maybe a bit in the hands. Fast glass like an 85 1.4 would help a lot.

Get away from the auto settings and learn to shoot in manual. Get to the church early and shoot and adjust settings until you get a good look in camera.

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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2012, 10:55:10 PM »
Thanks everyone. I had a hard time with the flash and balancing fec with my iso to keep a good shutter speed. Some were terrible. Also when they where walking down the aisle I found the light coming in from the windows screwed with my exposure I tried partial center and eval metering. I even tried HP and still some were ok and some were bad but I was fighting the paid photographer for shots. Surprisingly she shot all night with some Uwa that looked like a fish eye by tamron on a Nikon d7000 she just shot without looking like it was a weapon. Am I trying too hard is that not what composition requires you to actually look thru the viewfinder? Anyway I will post a few pics to get anyone's opinion.
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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2012, 12:49:10 AM »
...I even tried HP and still some were ok and some were bad but I was fighting the paid photographer for shots...

I thought you were there to shoot the wedding... (?)

She prob. did what Gene Ho shows here: youtu.be/e-WxCoDewbY
I wonder how those turned out.. (saw Gene's shots and those are awesome but haven't seen others doing it..)


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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« Reply #9 on: October 01, 2012, 01:23:50 AM »
Surprisingly she shot all night with some Uwa that looked like a fish eye by tamron on a Nikon d7000 she just shot without looking like it was a weapon.
I saw a similar thing a while back at a wedding, she was using what looked like a 60D and an UWA I couldn't identify. For pictures of couples she was shooting from really close and I thought the examples I saw on the bride's Facebook page made her look a bit fat even though she's quite slim. Sort of the result I would have expected using a UWA ::). She probably agreed, I noticed about 80% of the photos she posted were mine even though part of the deal was a CD she was allowed to post online.

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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« Reply #10 on: October 01, 2012, 01:41:16 AM »
If you and the paid photographer are that close, maybe you should sit down or shoot somewhere else? You were invited as a guest. The paid photographer is there to shoot the wedding.

There are many ways to handle sun coming through the glass. Often it is setting your camera for the light or the shadow. Sometimes I will set one body for the sun coming through the windows and the other body for the rest of the walk. Other times I may skip part of the walk. Most of the time I find using the auto settings will comprimise one or both lighting enviorments. It is better to get one outstanding photos of her walking down the isle than 10 so-so images. I always shoot the whole walk but I think ahead and setup each camera body for one part of the walk. I use the 70-200 when she starts out and the 24-70 as she gets closer.

I often shoot without looking through the view finder. I do both ground shots and overhead shots this way. The shot below was taken this weekend with the camera sitting on the floor. I set the focus point using liveview and then pressed the shutter release.

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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« Reply #11 on: October 01, 2012, 08:52:46 AM »
Here is my son walking down the aisle. I do realize that the picture could be aligned better vertically but either way its for an example of the lighting I struggled with. She was right behind me here but I wanted pics since my whole family was in it.
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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2012, 09:01:05 AM »
My Daughter again was difficult.
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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« Reply #13 on: October 01, 2012, 09:06:31 AM »
Here is my son walking down the aisle. I do realize that the picture could be aligned better vertically but either way its for an example of the lighting I struggled with. She was right behind me here but I wanted pics since my whole family was in it.
This shot is very good. Don't think that vertical alignment will do better job here, because you'll loose the dynamic feeling that makes it more than just a snapshot.

P.S. For better composition from my point of view it would be great to have some space where the boy is going to put his leg  ;)
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Re: Going to my first wedding the the new 5d3
« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2012, 09:22:35 AM »
The one of your son is a great shot. I agree that it needs to be straightened up. But, I'm extremely picky about alignment (maybe too much so). I did an engagement shoot this weekend where the couple was sitting on a bench that was not level compared to the brick wall behind them. It was a nightmare for me.

I also agree with the above that more floor below your son's foot would be better. Just for future reference.

Also, don't be afraid to crank that 5D3 up to ISO 6400. The amount of detail it retains in RAW is amazing. I wouldn't even hesitate too much going to 12,800. If you nail focus and exposure it is still usable.
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