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Estimate the price/body size of the new rumored Canon Megapixel Monster

5D size body/ price: between $3500-5000
18 (23.7%)
5D size body/ price: over $5000
14 (18.4%)
1D size body/ price: between $5000-7500
24 (31.6%)
1D size body/ price: over $7500
20 (26.3%)

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Voting closed: October 28, 2012, 06:05:18 AM

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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2012, 12:41:13 PM »
The ones who really needs the extra bulk can just buy a grip for the camera.

But we who don't want the extra bulk (and weight), can't remove the built in grip from a 1D camera.  :P

Does anyone need bulk?  It's more about balance and feel.  Also, 'just adding the grip' is not an ideal solution - the ergonomics of the 1-series are far superior (written by someone who shot with three different gripped bodies before getting a 1-series).  The 1-series is also more comfortable to hold, because the grip doesn't bulge on both sides to accomodate the batteries.  Finally, I was always bothered by the flex between grip and body when attaching the gripped body to a tripod - not an issue with an integrated grip.
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« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2012, 12:41:13 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2012, 01:15:48 PM »
I would also say D800 is produced with the successful logic of 5D mk2. Canon has had two cams with the same sensor though, the 1Dsmk3 and the 5dmk2. 5D mk3 is out so 1Ds line is empty for now. Canon might decide to go with a 3D-4D kind of middle model to address 5D2 owners unhappy about 5D3 specs as well as 1Ds3 owners. Alternatively they can launch two cams one pure 1Ds line and a D800 competitor.


I also think that Canon may consider going back to its previous model line with a high megapixel sensor in a 1D body and the same sensor in a 5D body named the 3/4D and priced in $4,000 range. This would give Canon the most comprehensive lineup of SLRs, covering all segments of the market.
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Re: Estimate the price/body size of the new rumored Canon Megapixel Monster...
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2012, 01:24:40 PM »
I would also say D800 is produced with the successful logic of 5D mk2. Canon has had two cams with the same sensor though, the 1Dsmk3 and the 5dmk2. 5D mk3 is out so 1Ds line is empty for now. Canon might decide to go with a 3D-4D kind of middle model to address 5D2 owners unhappy about 5D3 specs as well as 1Ds3 owners. Alternatively they can launch two cams one pure 1Ds line and a D800 competitor.

Nikon currently does not have a successor for their 3Dx line but a D800. Coming with a 1Ds line cam and a high price tag is going to leave D800 alone in that market segment. I imagine mid-lower end FF market is bigger than the market for top of the line cams...

Just my 2 cents - Canon is usually doing what I think they should not out of a business point of view...  ::)

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Re: Estimate the price/body size of the new rumored Canon Megapixel Monster...
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2012, 01:56:52 PM »
My guess, 5d type body at $4000-4500 at introduction. That would fit nicely in the line up.

I am sure regardless of the price, specs, or body style their will be several of you rushing to start the next "I'm moving to nikon" thread.

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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2012, 02:14:22 PM »

Um, the 1Ds line is GONE and is no more (hint:  The 1D X).

I was referring to a 1D type body by 1Ds line, perhaps 1Dxs as NL suggests? (I know Keith is discredited for the inaccurate 1Ds mk 4 rumors but anyway) :)

Either case, my guess is 5D type high MP body to sit between 1 and 5 lines...

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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2012, 02:31:14 PM »
1D sized - $9999.

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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2012, 02:44:54 PM »
I'm looking at this in light of the way Canon has behaved in the past year. Super high MegaPixels, resolution and dynamic range a new high point....this points at the top professionals in the studio in high fashion and marketing. Those demands would want the larger, tougher, more stable 1D sized body. If the camera is going to compete with 30-40K MF camera's, they'll definately raise the bar on the price point to be a high standard for the Canon line while much lower than the competing MF line.

As much as I'd love it to be in the 5 series or such, and moderately affordable, I highly doubt Canon will see it that way. Premium camera will demand premium price point. Simple as that.

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« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2012, 02:44:54 PM »

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« Reply #22 on: September 28, 2012, 02:52:27 PM »
I'm looking at this in light of the way Canon has behaved in the past year. Super high MegaPixels, resolution and dynamic range a new high point....this points at the top professionals in the studio in high fashion and marketing. Those demands would want the larger, tougher, more stable 1D sized body. If the camera is going to compete with 30-40K MF camera's, they'll definately raise the bar on the price point to be a high standard for the Canon line while much lower than the competing MF line.

As much as I'd love it to be in the 5 series or such, and moderately affordable, I highly doubt Canon will see it that way. Premium camera will demand premium price point. Simple as that.
That would take Canon's ignorance and stupidity to new heights.

Elephant in the room is the D800/D800e, which offers 36MP and high DR with pro features such as dual cards, top-of-the-line AF and full weather sealing. Basically, 1Ds-level features, updated to 2012 standards, for $3000.

I'd happily pay $4k for a camera that consisted of a great sensor and not much else (like the 5D2 was back in 2008), but I'm not sure too many others would - I doubt the difference between a 46MP sensor and the D800 sensor would be as great as the difference was between the 5D2 and D700 sensors.

Thing is: when Canon's high MP camera hit the street, the D800 will probably be down at $2500.

Good luck with your overprice Canon.
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Re: Estimate the price/body size of the new rumored Canon Megapixel Monster...
« Reply #23 on: September 28, 2012, 02:53:00 PM »
"Estimate"? How about "make a wild guess" or "What I would do if I was head of Canon marketing"? Anyway, I guessed 5D3 body below $5000, simply because the Nikon D800 and D800 exist and the Sony 24Mpixel APS-C sensor can be scaled up to 60MP FF. I don't think Canon would introduce a high megapixel camera more expensive than the combined price of a D800 body and Nikon 24-70 and 70-200 lenses. But then, I'm often wrong about such things.

Update (correction): "...scaled up to 54MP FF."
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« Reply #24 on: September 28, 2012, 02:53:38 PM »
As long as it's cheaper than an 1D C...   :-X
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Re: Estimate the price/body size of the new rumored Canon Megapixel Monster...
« Reply #25 on: September 28, 2012, 03:09:41 PM »
It's gonna be the 1000000000D (aka "the billion D"), and will have an MSRP of approximately $1,000,000,000.  It will have 1,000,000,000 megapixels, 1,000,000,000 FPS, 1,000,000,000 AF points, and about 10 stops of dynamic range ;D.
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Re: Estimate the price/body size of the new rumored Canon Megapixel Monster...
« Reply #26 on: September 28, 2012, 03:17:37 PM »
Canon cannot leave the D800 price point unprotected in a normal interpretation of the market.  Dropping the price of the 5D3 to $3000 and putting a high MP body at $4000 is a lose-lose.  Putting a high MP FF priced below the 5D3 is also counterproductive.  Competition prices dictate the 5D3 pricing at $2500-2700 and a D800 competitor at $3000-3500.  Or Canon can decide that any price point above $2500 is not entry level and is not typical of new DSLR buyers that they will price a high MP FF body at $5000 or maybe even drop the 1Dx to $4500-5000 and put the high MP FF at $7000.  More likely is the new high MP camera will be aimed at super pros and studios which would put the price at $10,000+ leaving the rest of the line untouched
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« Reply #27 on: September 28, 2012, 03:20:37 PM »
It's gonna be the 1000000000D (aka "the billion D"), and will have an MSRP of approximately $1,000,000,000.  It will have 1,000,000,000 megapixels, 1,000,000,000 FPS, 1,000,000,000 AF points, and about 10 stops of dynamic range ;D.

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« Reply #28 on: September 28, 2012, 03:57:12 PM »
If they want to sell as many lenses as they possibly can, which I'm sure they do, they're going to need something to beat the D800 back down.  Guessing this has to be that camera, so 5D body, between $3500 and $4000.  Or they feel they can get by with $4500.  It seems it has to be priced against the D800 to take that whole deal back out of the picture for people.  Not sure how that happens with the 5D III however.  5D III becomes $2700-$3000 cam and this one gets parked at $4500.  Could see that.  But does that still leave a D800 draw for folks.  Kinda tricky for them.  Or they just don't overly give a crap and figure most will stay tied to lenses and not jump to the D800 at that price, even if they stick this thing out there $5000 or greater.  If it is to be priced high or mid-range it kinda has to bump into their own 5D III or 1Dx and if it doesn't outright come in around 5D III I don't know that it takes the D800 elephant out of the room.  Maybe 5D III just has a real short life.  Doubt that I guess given 4 years for the II. 

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Re: Estimate the price/body size of the new rumored Canon Megapixel Monster...
« Reply #29 on: September 28, 2012, 09:52:11 PM »

Um, the 1Ds line is GONE and is no more (hint:  The 1D X).

I was referring to a 1D type body by 1Ds line, perhaps 1Dxs as NL suggests? (I know Keith is discredited for the inaccurate 1Ds mk 4 rumors but anyway) :)

Either case, my guess is 5D type high MP body to sit between 1 and 5 lines...

Cheers!

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