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Re: Wide or ultra-wide angle with excellent corner performance
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2012, 03:48:31 PM »
I haven't tried it myself, but the reviews I've read are good, although they say it isn't as sharp as it's big brother the 21mm, but also consider the Zeiss 18mm f/3.5 Distagon if you need something a little wider. It's cheaper than most of the others available, such as the Zeiss 21, Canon f/1.4 24 MkII and 14 MkII, as well as the tilt/shift options.
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Re: Wide or ultra-wide angle with excellent corner performance
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Re: Wide or ultra-wide angle with excellent corner performance
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2012, 05:15:51 PM »
I am amazed how sharp the corners are on my Tamron 17-35 f/2.8-4. Not super sharp but as good as a 17-40. Plus $295 wasn't too bad a deal for it since the center is as good as a 16-35 and the CA and distortion is not too bad and if there is some it's easily correctable. It also uses my B+W Haze MRC off my old 10-22!



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Re: Wide or ultra-wide angle with excellent corner performance
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2012, 09:45:31 AM »
Zeis 21/2.8 or the Canon 17mm/TS-E

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Re: Wide or ultra-wide angle with excellent corner performance
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2012, 11:21:21 AM »
Take the 24 tse and you won't regret it. Sharp as it gets and providing you with all the possibilities you need when it comes to perspective.

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Re: Wide or ultra-wide angle with excellent corner performance
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2012, 11:35:44 AM »
The only sharp wide lenses are: 35L, 24TS II
(14L vs 24TS II: http://the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=454&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=486&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1)

And the Canon f/1.4 24mm II.

I do not think so:
http://the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=480&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=5&LensComp=486&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1
But if AF is needed, there is no other way...

It's not as sharp as the 24L TS-E II, but it's very similar to the 35L f/1.4.

24/1.4II is visibly worse than 35/1.4 thus for example video is much better with 35/1.4.
Actually 35/1.4 is my widest rectilinear lens because I am not able to manually focus with 85/1.4, 135/2, thus I do not have 24TSII...

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Re: Wide or ultra-wide angle with excellent corner performance
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2012, 12:01:37 PM »
The only sharp wide lenses are: 35L, 24TS II
(14L vs 24TS II: http://the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=454&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=2&LensComp=486&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1)

And the Canon f/1.4 24mm II.

I do not think so:
http://the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=480&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=0&API=5&LensComp=486&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=0&APIComp=1
But if AF is needed, there is no other way...

It's not as sharp as the 24L TS-E II, but it's very similar to the 35L f/1.4.

24/1.4II is visibly worse than 35/1.4 thus for example video is much better with 35/1.4.
Actually 35/1.4 is my widest rectilinear lens because I am not able to manually focus with 85/1.4, 135/2, thus I do not have 24TSII...

To me, there doesn't look to be a difference, however, how lenses act in the field is far more important to me and if you need wider than 35mm, then the 35 f/1.4 isn't really going to be much use. 35mm is barely wideangle. Generally speaking, a 24mm lens is a landscape lens (although it does of course have other uses) and at f/8 to f/16 (by which time diffraction degrades sharpness), the 24 f/1,4 is plenty sharp enough, giving very good detail. It also has nice tonal qualities and contrast. From the reviews I read when trying to decide what to go for, the Zeiss 21mm was a similar sharpness overall (although possibly slightly sharper in the corners), agian with good contrast, but with a different look, which could suit some more than others.
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Re: Wide or ultra-wide angle with excellent corner performance
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2012, 06:14:52 AM »
@!ex, some fantastic images there. Where were they taken?  :D
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Re: Wide or ultra-wide angle with excellent corner performance
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2012, 02:41:15 PM »
@!ex, some fantastic images there. Where were they taken?  :D

Thanks!  Most in or around Breckenridge and Vail, CO, and one on the coast near San Francisco.

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Re: Wide or ultra-wide angle with excellent corner performance
« Reply #27 on: October 02, 2012, 03:23:19 PM »
The Zeiss 15mm is the best I've ever seen, If you can afford it.

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Re: Wide or ultra-wide angle with excellent corner performance
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2012, 01:37:31 PM »
http://www.lenstip.com/200.1-Lens_review-Samyang_14_mm_f_2.8_IF_ED_MC_Aspherical-Introduction.html

They have the 14mm F2.8 Samyang beating the 14mm canon in most everything except distortion.  $400.  Mine just arrived today and so far I wouldn't expect a whole lot more from the corners of such a lens.  The 24 F2.8 II canon I just got is also good towards the corners full frame. 

http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/532-samyang14f28eosff?start=2  Just look at the samples on there.  Kinda crazy resolution.  Maybe 14mm is too wide for what you want?


Considering the 14mm F2.8 Samyang myself as the 14L II is out of my budget for such a specialty lens. Am a little worried about possible QC issues with the Samyang though, it really is that cheap!  ::)


14mm is in! A few quick shots and I'm impressed with the whole package for only 320 euro's  8)
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Re: Wide or ultra-wide angle with excellent corner performance
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2012, 03:02:33 PM »
http://www.lenstip.com/200.1-Lens_review-Samyang_14_mm_f_2.8_IF_ED_MC_Aspherical-Introduction.html

They have the 14mm F2.8 Samyang beating the 14mm canon in most everything except distortion.  $400.  Mine just arrived today and so far I wouldn't expect a whole lot more from the corners of such a lens.  The 24 F2.8 II canon I just got is also good towards the corners full frame. 

http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/532-samyang14f28eosff?start=2  Just look at the samples on there.  Kinda crazy resolution.  Maybe 14mm is too wide for what you want?


Considering the 14mm F2.8 Samyang myself as the 14L II is out of my budget for such a specialty lens. Am a little worried about possible QC issues with the Samyang though, it really is that cheap!  ::)


14mm is in! A few quick shots and I'm impressed with the whole package for only 320 euro's  8)


Cool.  Mine is pretty impressive so far as well.  One thing I've noted is according to lenstip the canon only beat it in distortion, build and having autofocus.  Pretty fast I'm noticing their vignetting results having it better than the Canon just isn't true.  So Canon wins that one too.  I'm not sure how useful it will be at F2.8.  But anyway, lenstip has it -2.58 EV full open fall off, while they have the canon -3.00.  I used the Canon earlier this year and it was clear pretty fast with this Samyang it's vignetting wide open was even more severe.  Photozone has this the right way and backward from what lenstip says. 

I also just bought a 50mm F1.4 and noticed in looking at the options lenstip had the sigma and even the 1.4 zeiss smoking the canon wide open and stopped down.  Like the canon looked like ass.   I look at photozone and the opposite again.  Picked up the canon 50 1.4 yesterday and it is great.  I guess I'm not so excited for lenstip reviews at this point.  Or perhaps it's just reviews in general are in a way kinda pointless given how so many don't at all match up with others.  Like you have to find 4 or 5 and pick the winners that way.  Or just buy the dang things. 

Figured since I'd been praising the samyang over the canon so much that I'd mention this anyway.  You stop that thing to F4 and still a lot of vignetting but by F5.6 it's a non-issue and gone by F8.  I'm amazed it is so sharp even wide open though, corner to corner full frame.  Also the flare deal is a nice thing to see as well.  I can point it at the sun with no worry.  There's only one small angle to hold it with the sun way in the corner to get that flare to shoot across.  It's such a tiny range it's not an issue. 

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Re: Wide or ultra-wide angle with excellent corner performance
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2012, 03:02:33 PM »