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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2012, 11:20:06 AM »
Then Canon will bring out a new sensor and in turn Nikon will up their AF and ISO.  Back and forth, this is how the game is played.
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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2012, 11:21:26 AM »
I think that it has just taken time for the better sensors to get into camera models that actually get attention: D800 & D600.

Three years ago, the D7000's APS-C sensor was way 'better' than it's competitor, the 7D (in DxOMark-land).  Which was more popular?

And while the geeks are yapping about miniscule differences in sensors, Canon is scooping up even more market share by discounting a four-year camera to undercut sales of the D600 and lock buyers into their system.
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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2012, 02:13:10 PM »
nikon has the better sensors for pushing the shadows.
there is no fanboy blahblah that can change that.

canon is lucky that a camera is more then the sensor.

Is it luck?  Nikon has had 'the better sensors' for several years now...years during which Canon gained dSLR market share while Nikon lost dSLR market share.  Doesn't sound like luck to me, sounds like Canon knows better where to spend their R&D yen in terms of what consumers really want, or at least their advertising yen...   ;)

Sure, and why would we care about that? Are we supposed to buy the better performing camera or the better marketed one? Nikon seems to be better addressing enthusiasts whereas Canon seems to better address consumers. Now, which ones are we?

And anyway I think I see more and more Nikon cameras around. Just an impression of course, can't quantify it or give it a wordwide validity.


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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #48 on: October 02, 2012, 05:51:53 PM »
Are we supposed to buy the better performing camera or the better marketed one?

IMO, we should buy the better performing camera.  But.....DxO does not test cameras
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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2012, 06:13:03 PM »
I just watched that D600 video making another point it's entry level...crippling it with 2 SD slots.
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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2012, 06:29:55 PM »
I have lent the  raw files to a number of talented members at dpreview , they  have  all checked  and verified the results by them selves.

you have lent those raw files in the past... why not again?

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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2012, 06:57:17 PM »
5dmk2 and d800 same exposure time, f-stop base iso
5dmk2 developed in camera raw and DPP and d800 in camera raw so that details/information can  be seen equally in the white  house wall and in the white  towel  in front of the garden house =high lights reproduction.
Then we look in the shadows, low levels , an area is selected in the low levels and auto contrast is laid, auto contrast are showing  levels , details, noise in the selected area , no personal influence , photoshop is calculating  the signal level from the pixels values. This is the  results of  2-3 extra stops DR  in low levels.  And how to use it- it is up to the photographer and  the skills to use photoshop...

how did this thread go from comparing the 5D3 & D600 to comparing the 5D2 & D800?  How about a Rebel xti versus a D4?
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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #52 on: October 02, 2012, 07:24:49 PM »
nikon has the better sensors for pushing the shadows.
there is no fanboy blahblah that can change that.

canon is lucky that a camera is more then the sensor.

Is it luck?  Nikon has had 'the better sensors' for several years now...years during which Canon gained dSLR market share while Nikon lost dSLR market share.  Doesn't sound like luck to me, sounds like Canon knows better where to spend their R&D yen in terms of what consumers really want, or at least their advertising yen...   ;)

Sure, and why would we care about that? Are we supposed to buy the better performing camera or the better marketed one? Nikon seems to be better addressing enthusiasts whereas Canon seems to better address consumers. Now, which ones are we?

And anyway I think I see more and more Nikon cameras around. Just an impression of course, can't quantify it or give it a wordwide validity.

Sorry, I know neuro already did this, but I have to do it again:

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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #53 on: October 02, 2012, 07:44:46 PM »
5dmk2 and d800 same exposure time, f-stop base iso
5dmk2 developed in camera raw and DPP and d800 in camera raw so that details/information can  be seen equally in the white  house wall and in the white  towel  in front of the garden house =high lights reproduction.
Then we look in the shadows, low levels , an area is selected in the low levels and auto contrast is laid, auto contrast are showing  levels , details, noise in the selected area , no personal influence , photoshop is calculating  the signal level from the pixels values. This is the  results of  2-3 extra stops DR  in low levels.  And how to use it- it is up to the photographer and  the skills to use photoshop...

how did this thread go from comparing the 5D3 & D600 to comparing the 5D2 & D800?  How about a Rebel xti versus a D4?

Lol we might as well compare the 1DX to the D600.  ::)
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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #54 on: October 02, 2012, 08:11:51 PM »
Don't laugh.  There will be those who say the D600 is much better.
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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #55 on: October 02, 2012, 08:13:48 PM »
I think that it has just taken time for the better sensors to get into camera models that actually get attention: D800 & D600.

Three years ago, the D7000's APS-C sensor was way 'better' than it's competitor, the 7D (in DxOMark-land).  Which was more popular?

And while the geeks are yapping about miniscule differences in sensors, Canon is scooping up even more market share by discounting a four-year camera to undercut sales of the D600 and lock buyers into their system.

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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #56 on: October 02, 2012, 08:16:05 PM »
Don't laugh.  There will be those who say the D600 is much better.

Yes unfortunately there will be...still funny though.
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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #57 on: October 02, 2012, 08:44:46 PM »
can d600 have this kinda image quality LOL (shot with canon sd1300 out of camera jpeg).  anyways, stop comparing brand please, it is just matter of taste.  both brands are gooddddd....

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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #58 on: October 02, 2012, 11:02:47 PM »
Obviously the 5D Mark III is a great camera.  But the Sony D600 is no slouch either.   ;)

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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
« Reply #59 on: October 03, 2012, 07:28:02 AM »
I think that it has just taken time for the better sensors to get into camera models that actually get attention: D800 & D600.

Three years ago, the D7000's APS-C sensor was way 'better' than it's competitor, the 7D (in DxOMark-land).  Which was more popular?

Yes, which one was it , I have not seen any soner SRL figures then this.
Photoscala has posted an interesting Gain & Loss analysis of the worldwide DSLR market, for the period 2006-2008. According to their findings Canon, who were the undisputed worldwide leaders in 2006, have lost 9 percentage points and barely managed to keep their number one position against Nikon, who have gained 4 percentage points in the meantime. The biggest winner is Sony, who managed to more than double their market share, and took the third position from Olympus with ease. The rest of the market is devoid of any major changes, although Panasonic has managed to double its share, partially owing to its introduction of the DMC-G1 (which is, technically speaking, not a DSLR, but is nevertheless included in the figures). Nota bene: Photoscala warns that these numbers, which were derived from multiple sources, are to be taken with a grain of salt, but allegedly “the tendencies have been captured quite accurately”.


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Re: Canon 5D3 vs. Nikon D600
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