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Nate

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Non L sharp telephoto lenses
« on: September 30, 2012, 04:48:22 AM »
HI,

When I travel I usually shoot on wide lenses, architecture and landscapes 65% of the time on my 17-40, 20% of the time I shot on 50 1.4 street photography, and in my bag I always have my 70-200 2.8 IS II for just in case, and when I walk all day long, after a while the weight of it starts to annoy me, so can you guys recommend me a tele lens with is pretty sharp over f8.

(Not necessary Canon lens)
 
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« Last Edit: September 30, 2012, 04:50:12 AM by Nate »
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Re: Non L sharp telephoto lenses
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2012, 05:35:23 AM »
You can try primes.  Canon 20mm F2.8 USM.  It does have some vignetting and chromatic aberrations problem but with 5D3 or taking RAW then post processing with DPP-DLO/LAC with older bodies, this lens is quite comparable with 17-40.  As for the 70-200, you can get a 135mm or 100mm prime lenses also.  For me, I take 28mm 1.8 USM + 50mm 1.8 + 100mm macro.  28 and 50 are small lenses and the 100mm is the only big lens I'm taking.  I can't find a better lens for macro to replace this.

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Re: Non L sharp telephoto lenses
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2012, 05:43:57 AM »
Try the f/4 version? It is famous for its sharpness, and weigh half of the 2.8.

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Re: Non L sharp telephoto lenses
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2012, 06:25:29 AM »
Agreed with 70-200 f4 non IS - very sharp and easy to carry all day long. Use to stay on my camera all the time until I got the 2.8 version.

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Re: Non L sharp telephoto lenses
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2012, 06:37:53 AM »
I have the 70-200 f4 is also and it is fantastic and very light.

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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2012, 07:37:56 AM »
+1 on the non IS f/4. I'll be shooting portraits outside with it today! So sharp I may have to dumb it down a bit for skin.

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Re: Non L sharp telephoto lenses
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2012, 07:55:57 AM »
The OP said non-L. All the lenses mentioned so far have been L: 200 2.8 L, 70-200 f4 L...

Non L sharp tele? Look to sigma. Canon makes none. Canon non L tele is all zooms and is all non sharp compared to L lenses, at least at normal apertures...

Look to sigma!
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Re: Non L sharp telephoto lenses
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2012, 07:57:07 AM »
+1 on the 70-200 f4 with is or without, another good option is the 70-300 f4-5.6(non L) its a great underrated lens and its cheap and light great for traveling  ;) 
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Re: Non L sharp telephoto lenses
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2012, 08:07:57 AM »
I found the Tamron in test to be pretty sharp compared to the Canon 70-200 mentioned above.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=104&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=4&API=3&LensComp=757&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=3&APIComp=3

Any experience with this lens?
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2012, 08:47:33 AM »
I found the Tamron in test to be pretty sharp compared to the Canon 70-200 mentioned above.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=104&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=4&API=3&LensComp=757&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=3&APIComp=3

Any experience with this lens?

I have the Tamron 70-300mm, but rarely use it due to its size. It’s not a lens I walk around with because I don’t use the focal length enough to bother, but when I do have it with me, it does deliver great results. I’m not comparing the size to other telezooms though, I’m comparing it to primes like the Sigma 50mm and 85mm which is unfair (and I’m probably going to be bashed for it). If the size is right for you, then I think you will like it. The VC is amazing.
Here’s a handheld shot at 300mm, 1/125, f/5.6 (wide open), ISO 100, VC ON, with the 5D Mark II:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/spareimp/8039082510/#sizes/k/in/photostream/

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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2012, 09:40:48 AM »
I found the Tamron in test to be pretty sharp compared to the Canon 70-200 mentioned above.

http://www.the-digital-picture.com/Reviews/ISO-12233-Sample-Crops.aspx?Lens=104&Camera=453&Sample=0&FLI=4&API=3&LensComp=757&CameraComp=453&SampleComp=0&FLIComp=3&APIComp=3

Any experience with this lens?

If you are not shooting Sports, Wild Life or any very fast moving subjects ... This len to me is an absolute "God Send"!!!
The Tamron 70-300/4-5.6 Di VC USD has one of the best "Price vs Performance" ratio!
In terms of usability, it will beat any non IS, VR or VC lens of the same optical range any time! The reason why I say this is because I get about 40% keeper rate with hand held shooting at 300mm with 1/8 sec ... try that with a non-IS len and you will know the result (unless you got a "gyro-assisted" hand)!!!
In terms of optical performance, at 300mm, you might not get the sharper of the sharpest compare to those "Red-Band" demons out there like the Canon EF 300mm f/2.8 L IS USM which you probably need to mortgage your house for it ... but heck ... these days there are so many len correction software out there for you to choose from ... if you spend a bit of time in the Post! Also, in the magic world of Post Production ... even the Boken can be further software assisted to create the look and feel one need! With this len, I travel and work fast & light in all my assignments without having to carry a "Bazooka" around, which will wear me off very fast and posting limits to my shooting stamina!
I am sure not many will agreed with me, but to me, this Len is a pure winner ... I have created so many previously impossible good images out of it and have given me so much fun and "life" back in the process!  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Non L sharp telephoto lenses
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2012, 09:47:02 AM »
The 70-200 f/4 L is so cheap, especially on the Canon USA refurb site that it doesn't have the L price that prohibits mnay from using it.

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Re: Non L sharp telephoto lenses
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2012, 10:38:33 AM »
Not that much tele, but tack sharp: EF 85 f/1.8 - also rather small and lightweight
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Re: Non L sharp telephoto lenses
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2012, 11:55:47 AM »
The Tamron 70-300 is definitely the best value for the dollar. Sharper than any of the Canon non-L 70-300 lenses. Decent build. Good IS.
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2012, 12:00:31 PM »
The Canon 70-300mm IS is reasonable for a low cost Non L lens.  Obviously, the "L" versions are better, but you wanted light and non-L.
The primes are usually pretty good, but you are replacing a zoom.

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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2012, 12:00:31 PM »