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Canon 16-35mm II + Reikan FocCal Pro --- Tips
« on: October 02, 2012, 04:19:38 PM »
Hi guys,
I bought Reikan FocCal Pro about a month ago. Believe it or not, I have not yet install the software. I’m going to take 1-2 days off from work to calibrate  do microadjustment on my lenses.

My lenses are:
1.   16-35 II - this is the lens I’m going to calibrate first
2.   24-70 II - this lens is sharp. Let see if the lens gets any better after calibration
3.   70-200 f2.8 IS II - this lens is sharp. Let see if the lens gets any better after calibration
4.   50mm f1.4 – I’m so happy with 24-70 II, I now no longer need this lens. Will sell soon

Body: 5D III

This will be my first time doing microadjustment. Also, Reikan FocCal Pro is my first software as a tool.

Any tips from CRs members are greatly appreciated.

Dylan
« Last Edit: October 02, 2012, 05:30:33 PM by Dylan777 »
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Canon 16-35mm II + Reikan FocCal Pro --- Tips
« on: October 02, 2012, 04:19:38 PM »

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Re: Canon 16-35mm II + Reikan FocCal Pro --- Tips
« Reply #1 on: October 02, 2012, 04:49:29 PM »
Very sturdy tripod.
Very bright lights (I use studio lights with modeling light all the way up set very close to the test chart).
Print chart and mount on a black foam board and clamp foam board to adjustable stand.
Calibrate at different distances and you may get different results.  I pick the one that fits my shooting style the most.
Save your results to view them later and see how close they were.
Save settings in spreadsheet to recall later when you accidentally clear your camera settings.
Print both charts and use the horizontal squares chart to verify focus points.
Check the aperture values of your lenses too to see where they are not sharp anymore (around f8 and up for mine).
TURN OFF IS or you will probably get very bad results.
Use live view to manually focus for aperture tests.
Watch live view zoomed to see if walking around moves your floor and can be detected which means don't walk around your camera while waiting for results (depends on floor type).
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Re: Canon 16-35mm II + Reikan FocCal Pro --- Tips
« Reply #2 on: October 02, 2012, 04:55:42 PM »

Thanks Studio1930.
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Re: Canon 16-35mm II + Reikan FocCal Pro --- Tips
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2012, 11:27:23 AM »
Hi guys,
I bought Reikan FocCal Pro about a month ago. Believe it or not, I have not yet install the software. I’m going to take 1-2 days off from work to calibrate  do microadjustment on my lenses.

My lenses are:
1.   16-35 II - this is the lens I’m going to calibrate first
2.   24-70 II - this lens is sharp. Let see if the lens gets any better after calibration
3.   70-200 f2.8 IS II - this lens is sharp. Let see if the lens gets any better after calibration
4.   50mm f1.4 – I’m so happy with 24-70 II, I now no longer need this lens. Will sell soon

Body: 5D III

This will be my first time doing microadjustment. Also, Reikan FocCal Pro is my first software as a tool.

Any tips from CRs members are greatly appreciated.

Dylan

I do see improvement after AFMA. For the 16-35 II I ended up with -5 @ wider end & 3 at nearer end.

1 down 2 more to go ;)
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Zoom: 24-70L II -- 70-200L f2.8 IS II
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Re: Canon 16-35mm II + Reikan FocCal Pro --- Tips
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2012, 03:25:11 PM »
Hi guys,
I bought Reikan FocCal Pro about a month ago. Believe it or not, I have not yet install the software. I’m going to take 1-2 days off from work to calibrate  do microadjustment on my lenses.

My lenses are:
1.   16-35 II - this is the lens I’m going to calibrate first
2.   24-70 II - this lens is sharp. Let see if the lens gets any better after calibration
3.   70-200 f2.8 IS II - this lens is sharp. Let see if the lens gets any better after calibration
4.   50mm f1.4 – I’m so happy with 24-70 II, I now no longer need this lens. Will sell soon

Body: 5D III

This will be my first time doing microadjustment. Also, Reikan FocCal Pro is my first software as a tool.

Any tips from CRs members are greatly appreciated.

Dylan


I do see improvement after AFMA. For the 16-35 II I ended up with -5 @ wider end & 3 at nearer end.

1 down 2 more to go ;)

Depending on the lens and the shape of the curve, even a AFMA of 2 or 3 can make a difference.  If the curve is flat, it does not really change a lot.
As you can see, my 16-35 at 16mm and 0.7m to target has essentially no change from plus 3 to -3, but then drops off.

 
However, my 85mm f/1.8 is off quite a bit, and at a setting of 0, it loses a huge amount of sharpness. The lens is fine, it just has a buildup of tolerances that need a -8 AFMA.

 
 
« Last Edit: October 04, 2012, 04:29:45 PM by Mt Spokane Photography »

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Re: Canon 16-35mm II + Reikan FocCal Pro --- Tips
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2012, 04:23:27 PM »
Hi guys,
I bought Reikan FocCal Pro about a month ago. Believe it or not, I have not yet install the software. I’m going to take 1-2 days off from work to calibrate  do microadjustment on my lenses.

My lenses are:
1.   16-35 II - this is the lens I’m going to calibrate first
2.   24-70 II - this lens is sharp. Let see if the lens gets any better after calibration
3.   70-200 f2.8 IS II - this lens is sharp. Let see if the lens gets any better after calibration
4.   50mm f1.4 – I’m so happy with 24-70 II, I now no longer need this lens. Will sell soon

Body: 5D III

This will be my first time doing microadjustment. Also, Reikan FocCal Pro is my first software as a tool.

Any tips from CRs members are greatly appreciated.

Dylan


I do see improvement after AFMA. For the 16-35 II I ended up with -5 @ wider end & 3 at nearer end.

1 down 2 more to go ;)

Depending on the lens and the shape of the curve, even a AFMA of 2 or 3 can make a difference.  If the curve is flat, it does not really change a lot.
As you can see, my 16-35 at 16mm and 0.7m to target has essentially no change from plus 3 to -3, but then drops off.
 
However, my 85mm f/1.8 is off quite a bit, and at a setting of 0, it loses a huge amount of sharpness. The lens is fine, it just has a buildup of tolerances that need a -8 AFMA.



Hi Mt Spokane Photography,

How do you run full automatic on 5D III? thanks
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Re: Canon 16-35mm II + Reikan FocCal Pro --- Tips
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2012, 04:28:16 PM »


Hi Mt Spokane Photography,

How do you run full automatic on 5D III? thanks
Right now, for PC's its a semi automatic process, the software prompts you to set the AFMA to different values.  From what I understand, the Mac Beta is fully automatic, so I'm hoping they can get to that point with the 5D Mark III on PC's.
However, its not horribly time consuming to do it semi automatically, it tales me 15 minutes to do a prime and about 25 minutes or less for a zoom.  Once they are done, thats it until I get a new body or lens.

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Re: Canon 16-35mm II + Reikan FocCal Pro --- Tips
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2012, 05:02:51 PM »


Hi Mt Spokane Photography,

How do you run full automatic on 5D III? thanks
Right now, for PC's its a semi automatic process, the software prompts you to set the AFMA to different values.  From what I understand, the Mac Beta is fully automatic, so I'm hoping they can get to that point with the 5D Mark III on PC's.
However, its not horribly time consuming to do it semi automatically, it tales me 15 minutes to do a prime and about 25 minutes or less for a zoom.  Once they are done, thats it until I get a new body or lens.

Mt Spokane Photograph...thanks for the hint.

That was my 1st time setting up the software, target setup, testing the lens in semi-auto mode... It took me more than an hour  :( 

But you right, after the 1st run...I now get the ideas how the software works :)

I have Canon 24-70 II, I'm not sure Reikan Focal software ready for this lens? I bought the Pro version about 1 month ago.
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« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2012, 05:16:35 PM »
I don't think it matters to FoCal what type of lens, as long as it has AF.
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« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2012, 06:01:36 PM »
I don't think it matters to FoCal what type of lens, as long as it has AF.

That's right.  FoCal correctly adjusted my Tamron 24-70mm VC on 5D3 without any problem.
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« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2012, 06:06:14 PM »
I don't think it matters to FoCal what type of lens, as long as it has AF.

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Use it with any AF lens. 
Here is my Tokina 17mm f/3.5 Prime
 
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« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2012, 07:02:23 PM »
I don't think it matters to FoCal what type of lens, as long as it has AF.

That's right.  FoCal correctly adjusted my Tamron 24-70mm VC on 5D3 without any problem.

Mt Spokane Photography, neuro & cliffwang...thanks for the inf on the Focal AF lens.

My 24-70 II is sharp, but I still want to run through FoCal, let see if the lens needs any AFMA or not :)

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« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2012, 08:30:40 PM »
I don't think it matters to FoCal what type of lens, as long as it has AF.

That's right.  FoCal correctly adjusted my Tamron 24-70mm VC on 5D3 without any problem.

Mt Spokane Photography, neuro & cliffwang...thanks for the inf on the Focal AF lens.

My 24-70 II is sharp, but I still want to run through FoCal, let see if the lens needs any AFMA or not :)

Learn new stuff from CRs members everyday  ;D

I have a feeling you won't need to do AFMA for Canon 24-70mm MK2.  I current use FoCal for two 70-200mm F/2.8 II lenses.  Both of them are not needed to do any AFMA.  Canon has very good QC for all current Canon lenses.  Enjoy shoots with your new lens.
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« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2012, 08:40:27 PM »

 


I just ran my 5d III with 24-70 II through FoCal. This is the test results FoCal gave me on my 24-70 II @ 24mm. (-5 seem to be the best)

Looks good.  Its a nice bell curve.  I must run the program with different options, I always have many tests near the predicted point.  That usually changes the results by a point or two as it gets more precise from more shots.

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« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2012, 08:40:43 PM »
I don't think it matters to FoCal what type of lens, as long as it has AF.

That's right.  FoCal correctly adjusted my Tamron 24-70mm VC on 5D3 without any problem.

Mt Spokane Photography, neuro & cliffwang...thanks for the inf on the Focal AF lens.

My 24-70 II is sharp, but I still want to run through FoCal, let see if the lens needs any AFMA or not :)

Learn new stuff from CRs members everyday  ;D

I have a feeling you won't need to do AFMA for Canon 24-70mm MK2.  I current use FoCal for two 70-200mm F/2.8 II lenses.  Both of them are not needed to do any AFMA.  Canon has very good QC for all current Canon lenses.  Enjoy shoots with your new lens.

I just ran my 5d III with 24-70 II through FoCal. This is the test results FoCal gave me on my 24-70 II @ 24mm. (-5 seem to be the best)
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