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24-70 II or 70-200 II
« on: October 04, 2012, 10:11:18 PM »
First thing to know is that I plan on getting both but don't have the money to purchase both at the same time.  Probably get them a few months apart from each other.  Second, most of my shooting will be of my kids/family and will consist of indoor and outdoor shots equally.

So which one to get first?  I'd really like to hear from those who take photos of their kids and what they have found to be more versatile/useful.

I like the idea of the 70-200 for those times where I can't be very close to the kids (where the 24-70 would be great) but it's also a huge lens and I'd prefer not to be lugging it around all the time.  That's where the 24-70 sounds more appealing.  24-70 is a great lens but I don't know if it will be as versatile in situations with the kids.

Thanks for your guys' input!

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Re: 24-70 II or 70-200 II
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2012, 10:23:19 PM »
What body you putting this on?  If it is FF then the 70-200 is my choice due to the compression (I love compression).  If it is going on a crop body then you won't like the 70-200 indoors.
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« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2012, 10:24:45 PM »
Yeah, sorry, forgot to mention.  These lenses will be going on a 5D Mark III body.

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Re: 24-70 II or 70-200 II
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2012, 10:40:02 PM »
I have the same "problem" like the OP. What other lenses do you have?

16-35 II, 24-70 II, and the 70-200 II will cover most of people's needs. But dang, money don't grow on trees.

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Re: 24-70 II or 70-200 II
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2012, 11:12:50 PM »
Indoors on 5D3? In my head 24-70 wins hands down unless you live in a palace with 100 ft long rooms :)

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Re: 24-70 II or 70-200 II
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2012, 12:01:24 AM »
Indoors on 5D3? In my head 24-70 wins hands down unless you live in a palace with 100 ft long rooms :)

Which happens to be what I live in :)  Haha

Well, I do plan on having both eventually and it would be used 1/2 indoor, 1/2 outdoor.

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Re: 24-70 II or 70-200 II
« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2012, 02:22:55 AM »
sounds like a pretty easy decision as the 24-70 II isn't readily available just yet.  (maybe in some places).  The 70-200 2.8 II has got a great rebate on it right now and the price has settled.  You'll be paying a premium to get the 24-70 right away since it was just introduced.  Besides, you're on a 5D mkIII so the 70mm focal length on a 70-200 would still prove to be useful. 
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Re: 24-70 II or 70-200 II
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2012, 05:17:35 AM »
What a nice problem to have  :D

Get the 24-70 II (provided its available where you are) as you don't fancy the heavier 70-200 II right now. It will be superb in doors.

As for my self, 70-200 II stays on my 5d III almost all the time when I'm chasing my kids around  ;)

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Re: 24-70 II or 70-200 II
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2012, 06:35:47 AM »
Hello Kliphten,

I had a similar question. Read some of replies here:

http://www.canonrumors.com/forum/index.php?topic=9847.0

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Re: 24-70 II or 70-200 II
« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2012, 06:45:17 AM »
sounds like a pretty easy decision as the 24-70 II isn't readily available just yet.  (maybe in some places).  The 70-200 2.8 II has got a great rebate on it right now and the price has settled.

Imho the 24-70ii is a good investment, too, since the price is likely to stay this high for some time.

I like the idea of the 70-200 for those times where I can't be very close to the kids (where the 24-70 would be great) but it's also a huge lens and I'd prefer not to be lugging it around all the time.  That's where the 24-70 sounds more appealing.  24-70 is a great lens but I don't know if it will be as versatile in situations with the kids.

The weight of the 70-200ii is indeed rather brutal as it creates a lot of torque on the wrist, and as an internal zoom it is large to store in the bag. And remember you can crop from a sharp 70mm shot (how much resolution do you need - is it for screen viewing only?), but you cannot zoom out if your kids run towards you with a tele zoom - so the standard zoom should be more versatile.

Imho get the 24-70 now, esp. for indoor shots, and decide later on how often you'll need the 70-200 and if it isn't smarter to get the 70-300L for outdoor shots instead (physically shorter, more zoom range + cheaper) or if you really need a constant f2.8 with today's 5d2/3 iso capability. Imho the 70-200/2.8 is complete overkill for amateur fun shots. You can still get a fast prime lens for portraits that beats the 70-200 later on.

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Re: 24-70 II or 70-200 II
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2012, 07:35:45 AM »
Unfortunately the 24-70II is still not available in the Netherlands. And.....the indicated prices 2 weeks ago was 2259 euro. Now several shops list the 24-70II for 2579 euro !!!!


The 70-200 II is listed for around 2179 euro. 400 euro difference. I guess better to wait for a good price of the 24-70II



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Re: 24-70 II or 70-200 II
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2012, 08:47:55 AM »
70-200 first, especially if it's your first lens this in focal length range.  Most people already have a midrange zoom/prime, so the 24-70 is more often a smaller upgrade than the 70-200 is.  The 70-200 is great when kids are running outside and for sports (i.e. soccer), when the kids get older.  If you don't have one already, use a strap (i.e. BlackRapid)/harness system, which makes it much more comfortable to lug around.

The 24-70 looks to be an excellent lens but f/2.8 is sometimes not fast enough for indoor ambient photography, where faster primes are more useful.  Plus, you'd be paying an early-adoption premium for getting the 24-70 II now.

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Re: 24-70 II or 70-200 II
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2012, 10:01:03 AM »
You can rent both and see what floats your boat. I rented the 24-70ii this past weekend and while it is super sharp and has nice bokeh I don't think it's twice the lens that the first version of that lens is, nor is it likely twice the lens the new tamron 24-70 is (that one has the added bonus of vc). You have a 5diii so you could get away with some of the excellent, lighter, and cheaper f4 zooms by just cranking the iso.  In fact the 25-105 probably covers all of your needs and you wont be caught with the wrong FL. I'd rent a couple of options before you decide to part with $2500 or so.

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Re: 24-70 II or 70-200 II
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2012, 10:06:24 AM »
I have both: 24-70 II & 70-200 f2.8 IS II ;D

If you like the candid protrait photo and your house has decent size, 70-200 seems to be a good choice here.

I personally like 24-70 more when I'm indoor, my house is 2200 sq-ft. I now shoot raw, I can always crop in if I need to.

The only time I pull out the 70-200 when we out door, kids running around the front yard.

Bottom line is, this is a must have combo for Canon shooters ;)
« Last Edit: October 05, 2012, 10:08:18 AM by Dylan777 »
Bodies: 1DX -- 5D III
Zooms: 16-35L f4 IS -- 24-70L II -- 70-200L f2.8 IS II
Primes: 40mm -- 85L II -- 135L -- 200L f2 IS -- 400L f2.8 IS II

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Re: 24-70 II or 70-200 II
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2012, 11:00:11 AM »
I've got the same body lens combo and same situation with the kids indoors and out. I really think the 70-200 will excel outdoors especially with the FF true focal lengths as opposed to a crop. While the 24-70 will be perfect for indoors, I would first spring for the 70-200 (outdoors) and perhaps pick up the new shorty forty for indoors. The $200 price tag won't break the bank and would be a great' temporary' lens while you build the fund for the 24-70.

While I do love the 24-70 indoors, I keep the 40mm pancake on for the most part just for the reduced weight and ease of grabbing snapshots of the fam.


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« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2012, 11:00:11 AM »