A far fetched spec list?
An amalgamated 1Ds/1D Spec List.
- 61 AF Points
- Native ISO of 100-51200
- New Battery
- 150g-200g heavier that current EOS-1s
- October 18 Announcement
Currently this is the only information I’ve seen in regards to such a camera. I’d rank this as highly unlikely for the moment.
From [NL] via [1K1] originally from [DCI]
What’s coming in 2012
Received some info about a “loose roadmap” for Canon in 2012.
Two things were noted about 2012.
- It’s the 25th anniversary of EOS
- It’s an Olympic year as well as Euro 2012.
We will see a DSLR that will be showing for CES/PMA in the 2nd week of January 2012. When the announcement for the camera would be was unknown.
A new 1Ds would follow sometime in February.
Photokina would bring about a 5D Mark II replacement as well as a 7D replacement.
All that was said is Canon is concerned about getting production up and then they’ll start announcing lenses. The next round of lenses would be “higher end short focal lengths”.
It was also noted that a lot of existing lenses are on the upgrade schedule, though none were listed.
It was stressed that roadmaps are extremely loose within Canon, and stuff is announced when it’s done. It was noted the trade show schedule isn’t as important as it used to be, though they still want to be talked about at both CES and Photokina.
I can hear the collective tears hitting the floor.
The recent rebates on the 5D Mark II have nothing to do with an imminent release of an updated camera. They have more to do with selling lots of 5D Mark IIs. I’d expect rebates to be extended right through to Christmas (Dec 25).
What is coming?
Two new video cameras are coming to us on November 3, 2011.
What I think I know about them
One will be EF mount, the other will be PL mount. They will be both be higher end cameras, and could reach the price point of $10000+. It has also been suggested that the EF mount camera could fall under the “EOS” banner.
crazy things I’ve heard about them?
One of them would have a square sensor and take 48mp still images. I’ll [CR1] that one.
Noooooo, What about the 5D Mark III?
There is absolutely nothing, I mean nothing about a 5D Mark III being imminent. I have received the “no new DSLR in 2011″ line from 7-8 different sources. One source said if something is announced in 2011, it would be near the end of December for CES/PMA, but that was merely conjecture.
So no 1Ds4, 5D Mark III or the rumoured 6D (name guess) in 2011.
A curveball could still come, announcements for products can change. Just because they announce, it doesn’t mean they have to ship anything.
What say me?
A lot of unknown and exciting things are swirling around that November 3, 2011 announcement in Hollywood. I can tell you truthfully that I have seen just about every possible scenario. What’s true? For the moment I don’t know.
I think EOS will evolve a lot in the coming 12 months, the business of digital SLRs has changed with the advent of video in the segment. I figured I’d offer my opinion on the line partially based on things I’ve been told and things that just make sense to me.
I’ll start at the top of the EOS lineup and work my way down.
By the way, Photokina is next September in Cologne/Koln, Germany. See you there!
*This is NOT fact*
I don’t think we’ll see this camera announced until 2012. I also see the amalgamation of the line has highly possible. If Canon has the technology to give big megapixels as well as frame rate. It makes no sense to produce two different bodies. I’m not sure if we’ve seen the last of APS-H, though I think it’s likely. I could see this body in the $5000-$6000 range.
5D Mark III/3D
The camera most of the planet wants to see announced and shipped now! I don’t think it’s likely to appear before the end of 2011.
If in 2012 the top tier of cameras is merged, there will be a price gap a 5D3/3D could move up to. Say, $3500. There could be a lot of advanced video features, big megapixels and an upgraded, but not pro body level AF system. I fully expect Canon to figure out a way to directly monetize the video features of DSLRs.
When? I’ve heard anytime between tomorrow and Photokina 2012.
One of the recent rumors has been the coming of a new full frame EOS body added to the lineup. It would be in the $2000 range. It would see a drop in megapixels from the 21 of the 5D Mark II and be solely designed for ISO performance. To meet the price point, I’d expect a modified 9 point AF (more crosstype sensors).
If the 5D3 moves up the latter in performance and price, a $2000 full frame camera at launch would be an industry first and a massive seller. Canon was the first company to break the $1000 price barrier with a DSLR, no reason they can’t do it again.
I can definitely see this as a possibility, though I’m not convinced of it yet.
*correction* The full frame Sony A850 launched at $2000 USD. Thanks for pointing it out.
7D Mark II
I think the 7D will make it all the way through 2012 and into 2013. What is there to improve on the camera? How do you really make it better enough to justify a new model? If Canon is spending a lot of resources on developing 3 new full frame sensors, I could see APS-C remaining relatively unchanged.
The biggest upgrade I think to the 7D will be a price drop over the next 12 months.
As with the 7D, there’s really no need to upgrade this camera. It will only be 2 years come Photokina, and the cycle of camera updates is slowing down.
It’s a good little camera that sells well. I think we’ll see it last into 2013.
More of the same here (a bit boring eh), I don’t see a new rebel in 2012 either. A domino in the APS-C line will have to fall before they all get an update. Using the same sensor in the 3 cameras is probably great for the bottom line. I can’t see them abandoning that mindset.
When Canon announces a mirrorless system, I think it’s going to be a standalone product. So it won’t be EF or EF-S compatible. I see Canon launching a unique product to their line, not more of the same. I think the low end of mirrorless cameras is a crowded world, especially with the rainbow of cameras Nikon just announced. So why add another bunch of cameras to the segment? I think the gold mine for Canon is convincing the North American market to buy a mirrorless camera. Their mirrorless camera. So it’s going to have to be different.
To be honest, I really have no great hypothesis of what they’re going to do. It’s something I’d have to think more on.
So that’s it, as of today, that’s the way I see the EOS lineup going. It’s based on some information I’ve received as well as some opinion.
I just wrote in the last post that I wouldn’t post detailed spec lists because they’re rarely, if ever true.
However, it looks like [NL] received the same email we did. I’ll post the spec list now for your entertainment.
5D Mark III
- Pro grade AF (not 7D like)
- 2 stops better ISO than 5D mk II
- Digic V
- 6 fps
- New video codec, not Raw. MPEG 4:2:2, new video functions such as tracking focus in video mode
- Compact body with improved weather sealed
- Same introduction price as the predecessor
1Ds Mark IV
- 54MP (no low pass filter)
- Decent 6400 ISO performance
- Same AF as 1D Mark IV
- 14 stops DR
- 16 bit Raw file (mode to be confirmed)
- Digic V
- Limited new HD video function in comparison with the 5D III
New GPS and wireless device accessories will be introduced around the same time.
Other bits of information from the same email.
- All current L lens can perform at the level of the 1Ds sensor resolution,there is no low pass filter in front of the sensor and there is digital on/off software switch to reduce moire.
- Video function in the new 1Ds is not as complete as the one on the 5D mk II and due the massive data reading of the sensor there is no MPEG 4:2:2 coded.
- It seems that in one of the prototype there was an option to shoot 16bit Raw files that this option cut down dramatically the fps.
- It’s rumored that Canon will also announced one zoom and 2 prime lens with the Ds camera.
As I said earlier, I’m not a big fan or believer of in-depth spec lists on cameras that are still more than a month away from announcement. If I didn’t post this, I’d get a ton of emails since it appeared on another popular rumor site. Rock and a hard place sort of thing.
Check the previous post for something I think is a bit more believable. I do hope some of you can point out any obvious flaws in this spec list that I have overlooked. Have fun!