Archive for: EOS 7D Mark II
Not much buzz
There isn’t much information out there about Canon’s next APS-C cameras. Canon has alluded to the fact that both cameras are coming, we just don’t know when. We’ve been told previously by very good sources that only the EOS 70D will be available in 2013, though the EOS 7D Mark II could be announced in late 2013 for early 2014 availability.
We’re told a “surprise” announcement will be made by Canon in July, what that is we’re unsure. However, the source alluded to it being a camera body. I wouldn’t call the EOS 70D a “surprise”, but we’ll see. Could it be…….. something else?
Only one more body in 2013?
From a good source, we’re told that an EOS 7D Mark II will not be released in 2013. We could get an announcement sometime in this calendar year, but availability will be next year.
The only DSLR still to come in 2013 from Canon is the EOS 70D. The same source does say “several lenses will be coming in 2013″.
2014 will be the year for high-end DSLR cameras from Canon, consider this a down year for bodies.
21mp APS-C Sensor?
I received a very detailed email today about the future of the APS-C line at Canon. According to this person, Canon is prepping a 21mp (we’ve also heard 24mp) sensor for the 7D Mark II, and that sensor COULD also appear in the EOS 70D. The email detailed that Canon was going to launch the 70D with the same 18mp sensor as the EOS SL1, but is having second thoughts. Various prototypes and configurations of cameras tend to exist during R&D.
The issue is mass production of the 21mp sensor has not been finalized. This is delaying any announcement for a new APS camera that would use the 21mp sensor. Canon would prefer to announce a camera and have availability within 30 days of that announcement.
Both the EOS 70D and EOS 7D Mark II exist, there’s no surprises coming in that regard.
More to come…
A new spec list
A test camera that could be the EOS 7D Mark II has been specced at Northlight.
- 21MP APS C
- ISO 100-25600 (L: 50, H1 51200, H2 102400)
- Video ‘stills burst’ mode 30/60 fps
- Full HD video with manual control
- Single CF Card Slot
- 19 AF Points all Cross
- On chip phase detect pixels for liveview and AF tracking
- 100% Viewfinder
- Viewfinder LCD Higher Resolution Than 7D
- 3.2″ LCD
- GPS, WiFi
- Alloy body with better weather sealing over 7D
If the 19 AF points are true, I imagine it’s an all new AF system. Previously we’ve been told the AF system in the next camera would be based around the current 61 point AF system of the EOS-1D X and EOS 5D Mark III.
An update to the 100-400 has been rumored for years. It sort of reminds of the 24-70 replacement rumors. Apparently patent applications for optical formulas don’t guarantee a speedy release. You can see another patent here.
A very solid source says as it stands, a new 100-400 will be announced alongside the EOS 7D Mark II in the late summer/early fall. Even if the availability of the 100-400 is not immediate, Canon feels the two products will fit extremely well together from a marketing standpoint.
Just a hunch about pricing, it won’t be cheap. See Nikon’s new 80-400…… :)
40+ MP camera on the horizon
We’re told, as well as others that a development announcement for a high megapixel camera will be made in the September/October timeframe. There won’t be availability until Q1, 2014 at the earliest.
We’ve heard of two test bodies out there, one being 50+mp. There are other reports of a 39mp and 47mp camera as well.
Some of the technology from the 7D Mark II, which we expect in the fall, will be present in the big megapixel EOS-1. This also plays into the previous rumors about the 7D Mark II moving up in pro features.
The battery does help a camera body autofocus an EF lens faster.
From Chuck Westfall… “In addition, the EOS-1D X achieves a higher lens motor drive speed with select L-series USM telephoto lenses than the 5D Mark III because of the 1D X’s more powerful battery pack.” [source]
Some discussion has come up about AF performance being affected by battery voltage. The LP-E4 style batter in the 1D series is 11.1 volts, while the LP-E6 is 7.2 volts. I do not have the technical papers of the relationship between voltage and AF performance on for EF lenses. If such an article exists, I would love to see it. We were passing on information that came to us from a new source.
What to expect?
We’ve received some interesting information about the development of the EOS 7D Mark II.
We’re told at least one variation of the camera being developed has an integrated grip, really making it a “Baby EOS-1D X”. We’re told that the larger battery seen in the EOS-1D X is part of the reason it will autofocus bigger lenses better than a camera with say an LP-E6. If this is going to be targeted at sports and wildlife photographers, the bigger battery makes a lot of sense. I would expect the camera to be somewhat smaller, as the mirrorbox and prism wouldn’t need to be as large. It’s sounding like Canon is really going to test how much people are willing to spend on an APS-C body.
It is a 2013 camera by all indications, most likely the late summer/early fall.
No other specifications were mentioned.
From Nippon Magazine
A Japanese magazine has posted their predictions as to what they think Canon will be releasing in 2013. The list falls in line with most things we’ve heard, except for the last camera mentioned.
- EOS 70D – March 2013
- EOS 700D – June 2013
- EOS Me – July 2013
- EOS 7D Mark II – August 2013
- EOS 3D – October 2013
The first four on the list are a lock to be coming in 2013, and the timing looks correct as well. As for the October announcement, I’ve heard nothing regards to that. I was told by a great source that Canon would be releasing 3 DSLRs and 1 EOS M body in 2013. However, that does leave a loophole for an “announcement” of another body, even if it isn’t available for purchase until 2014.
From Nippon Magazine
Source: [NL] via [PF]
First spec list in a long time
We received our first spec list for a Canon EOS 7D Mark II (we’re calling it that for now) from a known source in a while this weekend. Most people are now saying that this camera is probably being announced at the end of summer, with availability almost right away like the EOS 5D Mark III.
It was also mentioned that their could be as many as 3 prototype configurations of the camera out there, and this one of them.
- 24.1mp APS-C Sensor
- Dual DIGIC V
- Dual Memory Card Slots (Unknown configuration)
- 61 AF Points (I wonder if we’ll get red focus points in AIS?)
- 3.2″ LCD
- Build quality like 5D3
- GPS & Wifi
- $2199 ($500 more than the 7D at launch, I’d like to see such a camera come in under $2000)
- ISO Performance to get close to the 5D3
- “Lots of video features”
As we’ve been told before, this camera will basically be a mini EOS-1D X, and with that, comes a price increase. It was also stressed that about the only spec that may change is the sensor, as they have a few APS-C sensors available. I wonder about the megapixel count, though if Canon gets back to making industry leading sensors, I have no doubt 24mp could be a real winner.
Canon EOS 7D $1199 at BuyDig.com
Canon’s Masaya Maeda let it be know that a Canon EOS 70D would be coming “some day in the future. Without fail.” I’d expect one to be announced in the next 45-90 days depending on which report we go with.
What to expect feature wise? I’ve been told two contrasting theories about the upcoming camera.
One, that it will be a relatively lateral upgrade to the EOS 60D, a few subtle improvements and priced around $1000.
The other reports that have leaked in, is the xxD line would return to where the 50D was in terms of build quality and size. We’d be going back to a more semi-professional style camera. If this happens, that would definitely change the EOS 7D’s place in the lineup.
EOS 7D Mark II
There has been little talk about the next “pro” APS-C camera lately. I’m of the belief, if and when one comes, it will be a new segment for APS-C performance and features, and probably at a higher price point. If the 70D returns to its roots, is there room for a high performance $2000+ APS-C camera? That question could probably be debated for a while.
I don’t see a return of APS-H, it needlessly raises the cost to manufacture the camera due to the larger sensor, and we’d still have the inability to get a true wide angle perspective with lenses.
If a pro APS-C camera comes, I can see it borrowing heavily from the EOS-1D X as far as framerate and AF performance go. Build quality would also be quite stellar.
Both Nikon and Canon must be hard at work trying to redefine the segment. The D300 came out in 2007, with a minor “s” upgrade in 2009. The EOS 7D came to us with a lot of fanfare in late 2009. We could be approaching 6 years and 4 years respectively before we get to see what both companies have up their sleeves.
The future is probably full frame across most of the EOS line, but we’re not at that point yet.
During my current travels, I missed an interview Masaya Maeda gave in Japan about the 7D’s successor. Below is a translated part of the interview that talks about the EOS 7D Mark II. It does reaffirm our thoughts that the 7D Mark II will enter new territory.
DKW: As for the readers of DigiKame Watch, there are many who are waiting for the EOS 7D’s sucessor. Up through the release of last year’s major firmware update, there were many who felt that a new model with even better specs would be released shortly…
MM: Yes, they would be correct. For us, it’s about looking at what the camera has the potential to be and then adding that to what it can currently do. I do think the current model is still very attractive to buyers. And while we are, of course, developing its successor, it’ll be one that incorporates a certain number of innovative technologies. We will not be putting out a product with merely better specs, but one that has evolved into new territory. But then again, we’re not talking about something a long time from now either.
Thanks Dave C for this update