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Canon’s Masaya Maeda let it be know that a Canon EOS 70D would be coming “some day in the future. Without fail.” I’d expect one to be announced in the next 45-90 days depending on which report we go with.
What to expect feature wise? I’ve been told two contrasting theories about the upcoming camera.
One, that it will be a relatively lateral upgrade to the EOS 60D, a few subtle improvements and priced around $1000.
The other reports that have leaked in, is the xxD line would return to where the 50D was in terms of build quality and size. We’d be going back to a more semi-professional style camera. If this happens, that would definitely change the EOS 7D’s place in the lineup.
EOS 7D Mark II
There has been little talk about the next “pro” APS-C camera lately. I’m of the belief, if and when one comes, it will be a new segment for APS-C performance and features, and probably at a higher price point. If the 70D returns to its roots, is there room for a high performance $2000+ APS-C camera? That question could probably be debated for a while.
I don’t see a return of APS-H, it needlessly raises the cost to manufacture the camera due to the larger sensor, and we’d still have the inability to get a true wide angle perspective with lenses.
If a pro APS-C camera comes, I can see it borrowing heavily from the EOS-1D X as far as framerate and AF performance go. Build quality would also be quite stellar.
Both Nikon and Canon must be hard at work trying to redefine the segment. The D300 came out in 2007, with a minor “s” upgrade in 2009. The EOS 7D came to us with a lot of fanfare in late 2009. We could be approaching 6 years and 4 years respectively before we get to see what both companies have up their sleeves.
The future is probably full frame across most of the EOS line, but we’re not at that point yet.
During my current travels, I missed an interview Masaya Maeda gave in Japan about the 7D’s successor. Below is a translated part of the interview that talks about the EOS 7D Mark II. It does reaffirm our thoughts that the 7D Mark II will enter new territory.
DKW: As for the readers of DigiKame Watch, there are many who are waiting for the EOS 7D’s sucessor. Up through the release of last year’s major firmware update, there were many who felt that a new model with even better specs would be released shortly…
MM: Yes, they would be correct. For us, it’s about looking at what the camera has the potential to be and then adding that to what it can currently do. I do think the current model is still very attractive to buyers. And while we are, of course, developing its successor, it’ll be one that incorporates a certain number of innovative technologies. We will not be putting out a product with merely better specs, but one that has evolved into new territory. But then again, we’re not talking about something a long time from now either.
Thanks Dave C for this update
Over a POTN there is a thread talking about a “1D X Successor”, basically a “slower 1DX”. Judging by the rumored price of $4000 AUD, I wouldn’t think it’s an “EOS-1″ body, perhaps a large megapixel camera above the 5D Mark III.
I believe we’ll only see one new full frame camera in 2012, unless something gets announced at the end of 2012 for availability in 2013.
Discussion at POTN via [NL]
More announcements coming
I’ve been told to expect two more announcements before Photokina begins in September. It’ll be a nice mix of DSLRs and lenses, as well as the usual PowerShot upgrades.
We expect 3 more DSLR announcements before the end of 2012, however only two of the three may come before Photokina. One of the cameras will be the full frame camera we’ve talked about before.
We still think a bunch of new lenses are coming down the pipeline from Canon. How many? By our count we hear at least 6 new lenses for the EF & EF-M mount before the end of 2012. Right now, we’re not sure how many before Photokina.
We were recently told that a new EF 100-400 f/4-5.6L IS was coming sooner than we originally thought.
All of this would leave us with a record year at Canon, with 6 new DSLRs and 13 new lenses.
We do not expect any other EOS M bodies before the end of 2012. I do expect a lens announcement or two to rekindle the hype around the system when it hits the streets in October.
Once again, we hear about a new “entry level” full frame camera being added to the Canon lineup in the fall. The specs for the camera have been quite broad, which is normal when there are various prototypes out and about. Below are the most talked about specifications, and probably the closest to the actual camera.
- 22mp (Same sensor as 5D3)
- 19 AF Points
- ISO 100-51200
- 3″ LCD
- Smaller than the 5D Mark II
- More Plastic than metal in the construction
- Pop-Up Flash (On at least one prototype)
- $1999 USD at launch
- Launched with a new non-L full frame kit lens (Undisclosed what the lens is)
- Compatible with full frame STM lenses
Lots more to come on this topic.
Another mention of a new and less expensive full frame camera from Canon for Photokina. We reported this a few times before here and here.
Specs mentioned include:
- Less weather sealing
- lesser AF system than the 5D3
While I don’t doubt a less expensive full frame camera in Canon’s future, I think most specs currently floating around will be of the wish-list variety. I would expect the camera to have the same 22mp sensor that is found in the 5D Mark III. After that , you can start knocking off about $1500 in “features” from the 5D3 to make the new camera.
This is a non Canon post, if you don’t like reading about other camera brands, please skip this small article. Thanks!
From the minds of Leica
No other camera manufacturer is more polarizing than Leica. So I had to post todays announcement, because it’s going to bring about a lot of debate, intrigue and questions about what they’re doing in Solms.
A lot of you will know I do shoot with a Leica M9, and enjoy the camera as well as the M lenses I own. However, I do have a hard time answering “yes” to the inevitable question I get from people… “Is it worth the money?” So when I see them announcing a new segment of 35mm digital camera for $8000, and still retaining things like the 5 year old technology 230,000 pixel LCD displays, I’m not sure what to tell people about getting into Leica.
Why does this matter to the Canon user?
I have always said I think there’s a market for a full frame “mirrorless” camera, and the first one to do it for half the price of Leica, will have a big winner on their hands. Today Leica threw a curveball with a B&W sensored camera, as well as a staggering technical marvel with their new 50mm lens.
Leica M Monochrom
Today in Berlin, the Leica M Monochrom was announced. It is an 18mp black & white only digital rangefinder.
“It has a sensor designed exclusively for black and white photography. It has no color filter,” said Leica Chairman Dr. Andreas Kauffman. “This allows twice the amount of light to reach the sensor. So we combined this special sensor with our rangefinder system and we present you the M Monochrome with the maximized image quality available with Leica lenses.”
- 18MP CCD monochrome sensor (24 x 36mm)
- No anti-aliasing filter
- No color filter array
- ISO 320-10,000 (with a ‘Pull 160*’ option)
- 2.5″ 230,000 dot rear LCD
- Supplied with Adobe Photoshop Lightroom and Silver Efex Pro 2
Leica M Monochrom
Leica APO-Summicron-M 50 f/2 ASPH Lens
A $7200 50 f/2 lens? That’s exactly what Leica announced today. I find it intriguing, because it’s going to set lens testers and lens geeks into a tizzy waiting to get their hands on one. There are some bold claims about the performance of this lens.
This lens is a new milestone in the history of optical design that achieves previously unattainable values in all technical performance characteristics. For instance, there is practically no fall-off at the edges – even at full aperture – in the MTF curves for image sharpness. Even the finest details are rendered with more than 50% contrast – a previously unheard of value that confirms the exceptional properties of this lens.
Leica APO-Summicron-M 50 mm f/2 ASPH
The camera is an intriguing step, but hard to stomach the $8000 price tag without having addressed some of the biggest issues with the M9, the LCD screen being one and lack of focus confirmation for the optically challenged. We’ll have to wait and see if it’s more responsive than the M9.
The lens may be the greatest thing ever created by man, I am looking forward to the comparisons between it and the Noctilux and Summilux variants. Can lenses be made much better than they already are?
Neither is scheduled to ship until August 2012.
That begs another question, if this camera isn’t out until August 2012, how can an M10 be coming a month later?
Now’s the time Canon, lets see the worlds first full frame autofocus mirrorless camera! Consider it preordered.
More big sensor cameras
We reported a while ago that Canon would introduce a new “entry level” full frame camera some time in 2012. With the recent Nikon D600 rumors, there has been a lot of chatter in the Canon world if they’d do the same thing. For the moment, the 5D Mark II is Canon’s entry level full frame camera.
No specs were given to me, but again I was told Canon is working on such a camera to be available before Christmas 2012 (or 2013 if recent history tells us anything).
… and the other?
I’ve received 2 other reports that Canon will possibly announce another full frame DSLR beyond the “entry level” in 2012, with availability moving into 2013. One would assume it would be a larger megapixel offering.
I have heard as many as 5 different sensors are in the wild and being tested, and in various camera form factors.
It’s highly likely that both cameras will become real products. I do get the feeling Canon hasn’t committed to their immediate roadmap yet and there’s a lot of “wait and see what the market wants” going on. People would like to see the Cinema EOS brand trickle down into a more affordable product than the EOS-1D C, but I don’t see that happening until the 1D C actually starts to ship. I’ll leave the delay jokes up to you guys.
Odds & Ends
A know source has mentioned a couple of things in regards to products coming in late 2012.
I’m told that Canon’s foray into the mirrorless world will begin in August with an announcement. Photokina is in September, so it makes a lot of sense to announce at the end of summer.
New Full Frame
A suggestion that Canon will announce an “entry level” full frame camera in the fall of 2012. A true replacement to the 5D Mark II?
That would bring about 4 new full frame cameras in the span of about a year if we include the coming 4K DSLR. Most assume that will be a full frame camera.
Where have all the rumors gone?
Everything has dried up recently after the crazy month and half of talk. We saw a new pro body, as well as a whole new camera system from Canon.
I received word that Canon has 2 or 3 announcement slated for January and February. Logic would say lenses, DSLRs and PowerShots would receive separate billing if the “3″ is true.
I have also heard elsewhere that we won’t see anything DSLR related announced until March 2012.
The last thing I was told, is we’d see a larger megapixel full frame camera available by the summer of 2012. One would assume 5D Mark III, but it could be something else. Anything that far off is hard to pinpoint.
I’ve heard as many as 5 full frame camera prototypes are out there.
5D Mark II @ B&H | 5D Mark II @ Amazon | 5D Mark II @ Camera Canada
What’s in a sensor?
[ISW] has given a nice and concise breakdown of the technology inside the new full frame sensor for the EOS 1D X. Below is a direct quote of the breakdown.
- New photodiode construction has resulted in an improved photoelectric conversion rate that gives increased light sensitivity.
- Improved transistors inside the pixels are said to make SNR higher
- The first time that gapless microlenses have been employed on a Canon full-frame sensor.
- 14fps speed is achieved by a 16-channel analog output with two-vertical-pixel simultaneous readout. The 16 outputs are muxed in 4 ADCs siting on a separate image processor chip Digic 5+. It is around 1.4 times faster than the previous generation EOS-1D Mark IV and said to be a first for a 35mm full-frame digital sensor. At ISO 32,000 or higher the frame rate is reduced to 10fps.
Source Image Sensor World