Best Buy
Best Buy has always given clues as to what was coming.
Currently Best Buy Canada is selling the 50D as a body only. It doesn’t appear kits are available on the site anymore.
From a birdie
If you want some tidbits of info, here’s one.
Canon attempted to purchase Pentax.
There’s a concern within Canon about Sony’s position in the DSLR market. Â They’re proving to be very committed in gaining marketshare.
It was insinuated that Sony has interest in Pentax and its user base, whereas Canon doesn’t necessarily want the same thing.
It was an interesting talk. I don’t have lots of info, but the source is good.
Enjoy :)
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bestbuy is a ripoff
For lenses, yes.
But for bodies they are good. I bought my 7D there for 1599USD- interest free for 2 years!
Can’t beat that.
I thought sony was getting out of the DSLR game. Didn’t they discontinue the a900?
Got tired of waiting for the 60D, just waiting for my nifty fifty to arrive tomorrow from B&H….. ;)
I’ve heard Sony is olanning a take over of Nikon that is why we didnt see any 1080p video and why no D700 replacement because when it does come out it will have a Sony badge.
My 300D broke down lately. No I still havesome time until August, 3 for a new Canon DSLR.
3.5D or 60D? Or for something completely different …
My children like these tiny bits of video clips …
so is it a sign that the next slotted DSLR is an APS-C type to replace the 50D..?
or is Canon stopping the xxD line completely and moving with the next development of the 7D..?
Canon is not interested in acquiring Pentax (it doesn’t even have that much of a fan base really).. it’s just showing Sony that if it (Canon) wanted to they could buy Pentax in a snap..
with the new NEX generation cameras and the E-mount lenses for compact DSLR and video recorders, Sony has gained a lot of interest, not really a share in the market, but enough to generate a buzz, which might result into high sales when it (NEX) comes out..
What would Sony gain from buying Pentax? I can’t see the existing Pentax userbase switching over to Sony, nor would I see Sony wanting to run two DSLR lines. Also the Pentax userbase is tiny compared to Sony so I don’t think it would add anything that way. The value must be in the technology, but I couldn’t think of anything in Pentax DSLRs that are much different from Sony ones, unless Sony wants a shortcut into medium format.
Moving on, what could Canon gain from buying Pentax? Sensor shift stabilisation is my first thought. I know there’s rumors Canon have tested it, but that’s one thing, and having a production ready system is another. Somehow I don’t think that is enough value in itself, is there more?
The Pentax K-x uses a Sony sensor and is a very good low light camera.
I’d love to see a K8 with a Sony sensor instead of the Samsung. Pentax has great primes that cover a better range, for how I shoot, than does Canon.
A combination of Sony and Pentax technology could make a great camera.
Why not buy a used 40D?
Well Sony=Minolta and some of us remember when it was not a two-way race between Nikon and Canon, but a three-way race between Nikon, Canon, and Minolta.
I’d find it hard to believe that Canon would have a hard time getting in body stabilization to work. I think they don’t do it in order to sell more stabilized lenses and because it is nice to see a stable image before shooting.
Now if one is talking about an EVIL camera, then in body makes sense because you can’t see through the lens anyhow, right?
Sony is releasing six more DSLRs within next three months.
http://sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-at-least-6-alpha-cameras-are-going-to-be-announced-during-the-next-3-months/
they are not leaving anytime soon.
If A900 was really discontinued, it maybe because A850 is basically the same camera and they are working on releasing a replacement for A900.
When pigs fly.
Einstein, that’s not a hint to the 50D going away, it’s the 28-135mm being replaced!
Pay by cash – no interest forever! …
Same here. If 60D is no show this year, then good-bye Canon and heeellooo Nikon. :)
One of the best cameras Canon has made. If it was 12MP (like a D300) it would be perfect.
Very true. Minolta lenses were (are) excellent.
Maybe he’s looking for something better than a T2i and less expensive than a 7D?
Cameras/lenses are just tools. If Canon can’t provide the tool you want/need than what is wrong with switching to Nikon/Pentax/Sony?
What can 12MP do that 10MP can’t?
Or more generally what’s so special about 12MP?
You’re missing the point. The point is Philip doesn’t even have to pay for 23 months and 29 days. He can enjoy the use of a new camera while he saves up to pay for it.
Don’t they already?
B&H has it for 1599 and you dont have to pay taxes.
Maybe Canon has an interest in some of Pentax’s patents?
“If 60D is no show this year, then good-bye Canon and heeellooo Nikon”
90D and 300D are mutch older !!!!!!!
I think I heard someone @ bestbuy say they aren’t getting any more 50Ds a few weeks back, not that the managers there know anything. I still think the 60D is a possibility, there is still that large price gap between the t2i & 7D perfect for an XXD replacement.
As far as Pentax, I’m sure it would be easier for Sony to buy their way into the medium format market than to develop their own bodies, I believe Canon is already working on medium format tech behind closed doors.
I’m starting to think that it’s time to give up on the 60D and just go with the 7D. …. I am concerned however.. is the 7D body the same size as my 40D, or like one of the smaller Rebel bodies?
7d is very close in size to my 40d. The viewfinder hump is a bit bigger (larger prism) and that’s about it. The only real difference I noticed was a different feel to the buttons, probably due to the water-sealing getting in the way
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It’s like the X0D series.
good to know, thanks!
The 7D has way more heft to it than the Rebels. I have not held a 40D and 7D at the same time. The 7D seemd slighter larger / heavier than the 50D. Maybe not in specs, but in feel.
I was waiting for the 60D as well, I didn’t want to wait any longer and bought the 7D instead. Probably just what canon wanted people to do… However, No regrets the camera’s great.
Unaided.
1Ds = MF – D3x
1D = Pro FF (sports) – D3
5D = FF (High Res) – D700
7D = Pro APS-C – D300
9D = Entry FF (12MP) – D90 Replacement (FF also)
XXXD = Semi-Pro APC-C – D5000
XXXXD = Entry APS-C – D3000
You can still buy either a kit, or body only at Best Buy USA.
7D = 60D
Couldn’t agree more. Been saying this for years. Won’t step foot in there unless its for something standard MSRP like a new video game that I don’t want to wait a week to arrive through the mail via amazon.
bah
7D > 60D
I have both the 7D and a 50D. The 7D feels a little heavier, sturdier, but they are about the same size. I love both cameras, they are great, but the auto focusing options in the 7D is just wow.
No, the picture you see in the finder of an EVIL camera is still formed by looking through the lens (how else would it work?).
Not too sure about the 60D being released any time soon, but there are some cameras coming from both Sony and Panasonic that (at least to me) generate some interest.
Based on all the rumors, I’m particularly interested on the Panasonic GH2 just to see if it is possible for them to address Global Shutter to their cameras. For Sony, I’m excited for their NEX 7, which has some specs that are supposed to be revealed sometime in September at Photokina.
I also wouldn’t give up too quickly on the 60D or whatever new camera they want to produce for the xxD series. They wouldn’t have pulled out of PMA 2010 if it wasn’t because they were working on something to show off at what will probably be one of the most anticipated fairs to hit this year.
On another note:
Sony NEX 7 rumored specs for video:
-1080p @ 24,30/60fps
-720p @ 60/120fps
-Full Manual
And I believe it is an APS-C sensor chip.
(http://eoshd.com/content.php/183-Sony-NEX7-to-rival-GH2-in-September)
Pentax has an upcoming camera with a detachable sensor that can be manually shifted for stabilization! That’s why Canon and Sony want to buy it.
You think you are cool now?
Surely, it is not the current Pentax APS-C DSLRs, or the inside technology, but the vast amount of Pentax patents currently implemented in other cameras, including Canon.
Also, it is the MF.
Both Pentax and Sony make APS-C cameras, quite similar in specifications, although a mix in them will not hurt (i.e. say Sony stabilization with Pentax UI…).
But only Sony makes FF, and only Pentax makes MF… why investing in the gaps when it is faster and cheaper to buy from the other and fit it all together?
Just by changing the lens thread on Pentax MF, Sony will become the only manufacturer from handset to MF, from lenses to sensor, and also providing Nikon sensors…
That is what Canon may fear, and that is why Canon may want to buy (and kill) Pentax.
Sorry, the XXXD series is not semi-pro.
Doesn’t everyone know? Just divide 12,000,000 by pi times the sensor area in sq. mm (22.2×14.8), take the square root of the result and divide by the square of the crop factor (1.6) then round off and you’ll see why 12MP cannot be bettered.
I’m not too worried about the options (although I admit some of them seem neat) how’s the PERFORMANCE compare?
Then what is the APS-C semi-pro model for canon?
since the 50D came 6months earlier than the normal 15 months cycle in the xxD-line, I’d expect those 6months to be added to the time between the 50D and the 60D (-if it comes..) which means that the 60D should come in august 2010 -24 months after 50D and 36months after 40D.. if it hasnt been announced by then, we can declare the 7D as the 50D replacement, but not before that..
err.. i meant 18 months cycle
the number of months seems to related to the # megapixels more than to camera-cycle as of late
And that is just what causes the crisis. Spending money you don’t have. What if Philip drops the 7D after 7 days of use. He has to save to pay for nothing.
Stupid spenders. Only buy if you have the money. Only exception would be a house I guess.
Just like the banks, the people didn’t learn fom this crisis, and it even isn’t over yet.
but if he doesn’t pay it off before the end of the 2 years,, he’s in for a nasty surprise.
xxD
At one time I had the 50D, 7D and 5D mk1. While they’re not identical, they all are very similar in size and feel to each other.
what? april? 50D was announced 26th of august 2008.. add 18 months to that and you get 26th of february 2010.. but as i tried to explain, 50D was 6 months early, but that doesnt mean that everything after it have to jump 6 months forward as well… add 2×18 months from 40D you’ll get august 2010 for 60D..
10D -Feb.03
20D -Aug.04 (18 Months)
30D -Feb.06 (18 Months)
40D -Aug.07 (18 Months)
50D -Aug.08 (12 Months)
60D -Aug.10 (24 Months)
Canon should be worried about Sony.
They just need a little more time for everything to play out.
Would that 9D be my dream camera? The old 5D revised with new 12 MP sensor and live view.
how can you know that it wasnt scheduled for a feb.09 announcement in the first place (like everyone expected) and then got moved for whatever reason?
i’m just saying that IF there’s any logic in their anouncement cycles (which there seems to be), then this is a possibility.. once this possiblity is ruled out, we can say with alot more confidence that there most likely will be no 60D..
Exactly. Only spend money you have, and you never run the risk of unpleasant surprises.
Thanks for putting this little timeline together.
I agree — since we haven’t seen an announcement at this point, and 60D rumors are quiet, it looks like a late August release for the holiday season — and Photokina.
It’s a strong historical trend.
In that case it would be the 17-85 which was being discontinued, since Best Buy Canada didn’t offer a 28-135 kit before.
True! I used to have a Minolta 9xi and it was a great camera
All Sony needs to do is come out with a good pro model with their experience in video and have it all fully manual with perhaps an open firmware and they perhaps could do some serious dents into Canon and Nikon market share.
yeah the trend is strong -even when you look at the dates; 27th, 19th, 21st, 20th, 26th..
so my bet is that if the 60D comes, it’ll be announced around the 20-25th of august:P
Actually, the Pentax K-x uses a Samsung 14.6MP sensor, just like the K20D and K7. The last Pentax cams with Sony sensors were the K10D and K200D
Best Buy’s web page for Canon DSLR’s has listings which include lenses. For one, you have to read the small print. Others say “(body only)”, followed by lenses.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17080&type=page&initialize=false&sp=-bestsellingsort+skuid&nrp=15&iht=n&list=y&sc=abCameraCamcorderSP&qp=crootcategoryid%23%23-1%23%23-1~~cabcat0400000%23%230%23%23dh~~cabcat0401000%23%230%23%233e~~cabcat0401005%23%230%23%23k~~q4661737433736b753130~~nf830||43616e6f6e&usc=abcat0400000&ks=960&st=processingtime%3A%3E1900-01-01&prids=&cp=3&_requestid=51677
For my listing above, only part of the link shown works as a hyperlink. You will need to copy the entire link.
You’re right. If he doesn’t pay it in full before the end of two years, he will find that he will have to pay interest for those two years.
You opinion is based upon what?
Canon should think about the ultra compact DSLR range that sony, samsung, olympus and lumix already done…
Do the same thing for Best Buy Canada, and search only 50D
How does that gibberish prove anything?
Discontinuing the _D line does not necessarily mean that there won’t be a successor. Cannon could give a replacement a different designation. Canon could call it something else. Remember, that the Canon discontinued the S_ IS and replaced it with the SX_ IS.
If Canon management has any street smarts, it will come with a successor to the 50D. Whether it is (a) called 60D or (b) the start of a new series, who knows? There is too much of a gap in prices between the the 7D and the Digital Rebels. If Canon were to abandon that niche, DSLR purchasers — particularly those without a lot of Canon lenses — would start flocking to other manufacturers, particularly Nikon — which is closest in quality to Canon. Once these camera purchasers leave Canon for another manufacturer’s DSLR, they will start buying lenses to go with their new DSLRs and Canon will have a hard time getting them back.
Cannon, probably, won’t come out with a successor until it has to; such as, when Nikon comes out with a new, updated competitor.
Of course, Canon could be resting on its laurels, figuring that it is so dominant that it can do so. If so they could go the way of General Motors and AOL, both of which at one time were by far and away the dominant players in their markets.
canon cli-8 ink tanks, canon photo paper, web cam, toner cartridge, and just about everything else ive bought there. They always fight me about price matching B&H so i’ll only shop there when im in a pinch.
The 30D was introduced 18 months after the 20D. The 40D was introduced 18 months after the 30D. The 50D was announced 12 months, instead of 18 months, after the 40D because it was spooked by Nikon.
Where did you get that information? Last time I looked, the K-x uses a 12.4 MP Sony sensor. The same sensor type that the Sony a700 used.
Yes, Best Buy Canada does differ from Best Buy USA. The difference could also reflect differing market conditions.
Who says Pentax is for sale? They just merged with Hoya and their financials are improving and they are quickly becoming a strong 4th place contender. They’re getting ready to release a k-7 replacement and maybe a FF model later this year. The only reason either one would want to buy them is because they are worried they are moving up the ladder quickly since the last two cameras came out. Their lenses are awesome and much cheaper than any other system. They have a great prime line-up and their zooms are near prime quality. Last time I checked, they were not for sale. They may have made an offer but did you see any money change hands. Their just worried Pentax will take part of the market share. Check out pentaximaging.com and look at their lenses if you haven’t ever checked them out. You will be surprised like I was.
Sony is getting ready to release a video camera that uses A-Mount lenses this fall. They have already announced it. They are also coming out with 6 new Alpha bodies over the next 3 months. Canon had better be worried.
I agree! It’s coming. Sony is working on video and they will get it right when they do it.
cant do the math yourself, aint it cornell dude?.if you cant do it then you are the kind of guy who dont need to know the answer.simple as that.
because it the worst canon cam available, even the lowely 30D trumps it in image quality with 2mps less.
Nice try!
Nigel, I can do the math. Prove that the result means what Bob claims.
Dude is onto something. IS lenses won’t work well with IS camera bodies — at least, not with IS turned on for the lenses.
http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/digital/image_stabilization.html
People who have IS lenses would have to turn off the IS to turn off the IS function when using the lenses with an IS bode. Both Canon and Nikon are heavily invested in IS (VR for Nikon) lenses.
photokina is an event that is held every two years. I highly waited event, demands a highly desperate waited Canon Camera Body.
The time for the Canon 60D is in Photokina, if is not, i will use my XTI to death and when it blows up, I will dedicate my time to Dressmaking.. or Cooking.
I thing canon its trying to deplete their old oversize supply of EF 70-300 IS and CANON 50D bodys.
Guessing that its a hard lens to sell, and the Canon 50D sells my be dropping because the expectation of the 60D or the presence of the T2i.
Maybe this doesnt mean anything…
…unless you reside in New York.
D90 and D300.
And the D300 has been succeeded by the D300s.
Humbug.
G-series lenses with K-mount threads.
EOS 7D ≥ EOS “60D”
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olstemplatemapper.jsp?id=pcat17080&type=page&initialize=false&sp=-bestsellingsort+skuid&nrp=15&iht=n&list=y&sc=abCameraCamcorderSP&qp=crootcategoryid%23%23-1%23%23-1~~cabcat0400000%23%230%23%23dh~~cabcat0401000%23%230%23%233e~~cabcat0401005%23%230%23%23k~~q4661737433736b753130~~nf830||43616e6f6e&usc=abcat0400000&ks=960&st=processingtime%3A%3E1900-01-01&prids=&cp=3&_requestid=51677
Better?
That didn’t work.
Canon is more afraid of Sony atm then of Nikon, since SONY is capable of moveing into the HD DSLRs market with its 50 years of knowhow in broadcasting business.
Thank you to all the nice folks on this thread that are concerned about my finances. I can afford the camera. just chose to pay it off over a few months as to not take a big hit in one month.