A leaked document suggests that Canon has a 63mp full frame image sensor in the works.

Quarkcharmed · Apr 23, 2019

Good one. Seen the analysis on canonnews. They say its performance looks the same as the sensor in 6DII. Which means, pretty poor performance. Hope it won't actually go to the high-end high-res R-series camera.

Cryve · Apr 23, 2019

this is good news as this would would lead to the conclusion that the new apsc-sensor is 24mp and not 32,5 (as that would lead to a 84mp full frame sensor)

Sharlin · Apr 23, 2019

This has almost exactly the same pixel pitch as a 24MP APS-C sensor. Which may or may not be a coincidence.

neuroanatomist · Apr 23, 2019

Cryve said:
this is good news as this would would lead to the conclusion that the new apsc-sensor is 24mp and not 32,5 (as that would lead to a 84mp full frame sensor)

Huh? If you find a pebble on the ground, does that lead to the conclusion that IBM stock will rise? Feel free to support your claim with examples from Canon’s history where the pixel pitch of different sensor formats has been aligned.

Quarkcharmed · Apr 23, 2019

Cryve said:
this is good news as this would would lead to the conclusion that the new apsc-sensor is 24mp and not 32,5 (as that would lead to a 84mp full frame sensor)

It's very interesting news (in case this sensor is going to be used in the next Canon camera) but not good news. The performance will be below 6DII. Also I'm not sure how it's related to the prospective APS-C sensor, or why it should be related.

Cryve · Apr 23, 2019

neuroanatomist said:
Huh? If you find a pebble on the ground, does that lead to the conclusion that IBM stock will rise?

i get that it is a far strech and we cant conclude anything reliably, but we have more clues about a new 24mp aps-c sensor now than we have about a 32,5mp aps-c sensor, if we can take anything from the one case that we have : 5ds sensor supposidly beeing an upscaled 7d ii sensor

neuroanatomist · Apr 23, 2019

Cryve said:
i get that it is a far strech and we cant conclude anything reliably, but we have more clues about a new 24mp aps-c sensor now than we have about a 32,5mp aps-c sensor

Sorry, if you are suggesting this leaked document offers any clues about a forthcoming APS-C sensor, that’s like jumping over the Grand Canyon on your leap to a conclusion.

lglass12189 · Apr 23, 2019

Is this an exercise site? Seems a lot of people get a good workout jumping to conclusions

Cryve · Apr 23, 2019

neuroanatomist said:
Sorry, if you are suggesting this leaked document offers any clues about a forthcoming APS-C sensor, that’s like jumping over the Grand Canyon on your leap to a conclusion.

it sure is, i just wanna spur on some discussion. i mean this is a rumor forum after all.

in the end it couldnt mean anything and you are absolutly right that its very far fetched.

canonnews · Apr 23, 2019

Cryve said:
i get that it is a far strech and we cant conclude anything reliably, but we have more clues about a new 24mp aps-c sensor now than we have about a 32,5mp aps-c sensor

this wouldn't show a "new" 24MP sensor. it has a higher read noise and lower DR than the current generation 24MP sensor. we won't even get into it's sensor readout speed.

jeffa4444 · Apr 23, 2019

Its a slow news day. Let pump out garbage.

Kit. · Apr 23, 2019

Maybe it's an old sensor Canon decided not to release years ago?

mb66energy · Apr 23, 2019

Cryve said:
this is good news as this would would lead to the conclusion that the new apsc-sensor is 24mp and not 32,5 (as that would lead to a 84mp full frame sensor)

Alternatively it is a sensor design deduced from current 24 MPix sensors which might come into an EOS RPS body or it's simply a design for some type of observational imaging systems. If I am right the 18 MPix sensors came some years before the EOS 5Ds cameras and it needed to ripe for FF use with similar pixel densities ...

AlanF · Apr 23, 2019

jeffa4444 said:
Its a slow news day. Let pump out garbage.

This is Canonrumors so it's doing what it is meant to do.

Don Haines · Apr 23, 2019

Quarkcharmed said:
It's very interesting news (in case this sensor is going to be used in the next Canon camera) but not good news. The performance will be below 6DII.

How do you figure that?
Yes, the pixels are smaller, but you can resample the image down to the size of the 6D2 images and gain about 1.5 stops of DR doing so.... and they should be sharper... and with a higher density sensor you don’t need as strong of an AA filter, so a bit more improvement, plus, it will be a newer design!

caffetin · Apr 23, 2019

Quarkcharmed said:
Good one. Seen the analysis on canonnews. They say its performance looks the same as the sensor in 6DII. Which means, pretty poor performance. Hope it won't actually go to the high-end high-res R-series camera.

I can see, I am going to fuji

slclick · Apr 23, 2019

That's it, I'm switching to Rolleiflex

cayenne · Apr 23, 2019

Is it possible that Canon is angling towards a more medium format model camera?

You don't need speed performance there....perhaps this is for a model somewhat in line for the market that the FUJIFILM GFX 50S is shooting for these days?

cayenne

canonnews · Apr 23, 2019

Don Haines said:
How do you figure that?
Yes, the pixels are smaller, but you can resample the image down to the size of the 6D2 images and gain about 1.5 stops of DR doing so.... and they should be sharper... and with a higher density sensor you don’t need as strong of an AA filter, so a bit more improvement, plus, it will be a newer design!

it's NOT a newer design. If you look at the pinouts from a 6D Mark II sensor, it uses an on board ADC and is probably the same tech level as this sensor.

it has the exact same DR response as the 6D Mark II sensor. it doesn't follow the response curve of say, a 5D Mark IV,etc. this is not a new design. it's the prior generation similar to what the 6D Mark II was.

cayenne said:
Is it possible that Canon is angling towards a more medium format model camera?

You don't need speed performance there....perhaps this is for a model somewhat in line for the market that the FUJIFILM GFX 50S is shooting for these days?

cayenne

No, it's a 35mm sensor, and i'd say 3 fps is the slowest you could have a camera shoot at reasonably and this wouldn't even hit that.