Canon DSLR Rumors

All new 24mp sensor coming to the next Canon ILC’s [CR1]

We’re told that the next generation of Canon CMOS image sensors will begin with an all-new 24mp APS-C sensor inside Canon’s next DSLR and EOS M cameras.

What sorts of improvements we’re going to see in the next generation of sensors wasn’t divulged to us, but we’re hoping to see some major advancements from Canon in this area.

Canon is putting resources into updated dual pixel AF, quad pixel AF and stacked image sensors if we go by the patents we’ve seen over the last year or two. APS-C video shooters might also appreciate line skipping being introduced to get rid of the crop. It’d also be nice to get 4K DPAF in these new cameras.

The next ILC cameras from Canon are an EOS 80D replacement as well as an update to the EOS M5. Neither of these cameras can afford to recycle the current 24mp sensor by just adding direct read 4K.

More to come…

Mr Majestyk

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Is it too much to hope for oversampled 6k-to-4k video at 24/25/30p with no crop and DPAF?
In a word yes if they are talking about line skipping. Sony's 24MP sensor in the A9 and A7III are actually 25.3MP just what you need to do full sensor 6K read-out, which is then downsampled to 4K. It will be a big deal if Canon can offer 4K without a crop let alone any notion of them doing 6K capture.
 

unfocused

EOS 5D SR
Not sure what to make of this. CR1 so could be nothing.

But, if true and if the rumors of a 70+ mp full frame sensor are also true, that would mean that the full frame sensor would have more pixel density than the APS-C sensor (which works out to about 62 mp in full frame). That would be a first.

A 24 mp sensor that performs better than the current 80D 24 mp sensor would be welcome news for stills shooters, especially if it is the sensor destined for the 7DIII. But a 24 mp sensor that simply offers better video performance without any improvements for stills, will disappoint stills shooters, who still remain the majority of users for the 80D and 7DIII.

Best to tamp down the hopes and dreams a bit and just see what happens. (I know, nice goal, but never going to happen on this forum)
 
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I think the most interesting thing here is the part about line skipping "APS-C video shooters might also appreciate line skipping being introduced to get rid of the crop.

If they are indeed looking at line skipping as a ways to get rid of the crop, we may actually be in for a full frame no crop 4K experience on all of their cameras in the near future, including the 70MP one. There's absolutely no way to get any reasonable 4K footage out of 70 megapixels if they continue with the existing crop method.
 
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crazyrunner33

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video shooters might also appreciate line skipping being introduced to get rid of the crop.
I hope they leave the two modes an option like they did on the T3i. Line skipping is manageable when shooting objects in nature, but the moire and aliasing is unbearable in an urban setting.
 

crazyrunner33

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yes, you may as well forget about that.

it's not just the sensor it's the processors that have to handle all that. Canon's only done that on their C700. it's not even in their CINI lineup that much, and they have cooling fans.
The C700's processors cannot handle much oversampling, it's the reason they record in 5.9k at full frame and 4k is cropped.
 

crazyrunner33

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In a word yes if they are talking about line skipping. Sony's 24MP sensor in the A9 and A7III are actually 25.3MP just what you need to do full sensor 6K read-out, which is then downsampled to 4K. It will be a big deal if Canon can offer 4K without a crop let alone any notion of them doing 6K capture.
It's important to note that the A7III/Z6 does not line skip(but the A7RIII/Z7 does), it oversamples the sensor. Line skipping creates more noise and very noticeable aliasing. A good example of why the C100 has a great looking 1080 image is because it oversamples a 4k sensor. The crop mode (while it won't have the best field of view) will have around the same amount of noise as a line skipper, but it looks more organic and doesn't the color mosaic issues of a line skipper.
 
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