2019 has been a quiet year for Canon's Cinema EOS lineup, with only the announcement of the long-awaited Cinema EOS C500 Mark II.
We have been told that the next cinema camera from Canon will be the Cinema EOS C300 Mark III. However, the information we've received about this camera contradicts what we were told previously.
The new information says the C300 Mark III will remain a 4K Super35 camera, but with a more modular design like we see with the C500 Mark II. There will be no 8K version of the camera like previously reported according to this source.
Now about 8K, a separate source claims that Canon will announce some kind of 8K offering in 2020, but that this camera will be “built to order” and not a retail consumer product.
As for a follow-up to the Cinema EOS C100 Mark II, we have been told a few times that there will be no direct replacement for that camera.
They've got a pretty solid line-up from C200 -> C300 -> C500 -> C700...dont really see much room above, below, or in between those cameras.
"A Big Mac meal, 10 Chicken McNuggets and the new Canon with the 8k."
"Which sauce do you want for your Canon and your nuggets?"
"24p."
I wish they'd priced the C500 II a bit cheaper. The C200 is currently $6,499. The somewhat comparable Sony FX9 is $11,000. I think the below pricing scheme makes more sense to me:
C500 II - $12,500
C300 III - $9,500
C200 - $6,500
Great thinking and speculation.
edit: I guess 72, 75, 90 would be more equitable. That would be 3x Cinema, PAL and NTSC. Not sure those are actually ideal. Just dropping some numbers.
I was certain after the 5D mk II that Canon was going to go after the independent film market with successive expansive offerings in the DSLR line and the C100, but I've waited many years in vain. Canon has handed that market over to Sony and Panasonic and are showing no inclination to compete. Maybe they'll do something with mirrorless, maybe not, but the most promising thing on the horizon now is the Sony A7s mk III, which I hope lives up to Sony's hints about it. That's likely my next camera barring any surprises.
Agreed. The S1H is nearly perfect if you don't need AF (though DR/Highlight control seems lacking from what I've seen) and I'm excited to see what the A7s III offers. Especially if it has the S Cinetone profile the new FX9 has. To my eye that's fixed all the color issues Sony has had.
I'm just a person on the internet, but if Canon wanted to get people into their mirrorless mount and sell people RF glass, a C100 III in RF mount would certainly help do it. Take the C100 II body, put in an RF mount, make the LCD touchscreen, and give it 4k up to 60fps in the pedestrian 4:2:0 8 bit. Charge $3,999. I'd wish for a lot more feature-wise but it's the kind of standard, unexciting Canon fare we'd get. Regardless they'd stop ignoring the sub $5k video market and sell a ton. I can already see young youtubers marveling at built-in ND's, a handle with XLR inputs, and a removable grip for gimbal use because they were only 13 when the original C100 released. Not leveraging video to get people into their new system shows how much Canon has underestimated the importance of video IMO.
A non-linear successor to the C100 line that I'd like to see is an ILC RF mount XC camera with a 6k Super35 sensor. It doesn't need Cinema RAW light like the C200, just a decent 60fps of uncropped 6k with the rock-solid C-log profiles and 10-bit 4:2:2 internal. I think a camera like that would put up a hell of a fight against the S1H and A7S III even with a Super35 on a full-frame lens platform.