Canon RF 5.2mm f/2.8L Dual Fisheye VR Demo

koenkooi · Oct 20, 2021

It's pretty impressive using a google cardboard thingy for your phone as well. I wish my phone would have a better resolution, 2532 x 1170 divided over 2 eyes gives a noticeable screen-door effect.
Now I need to find a pair of affordable, stand-alone VR goggles that don't require facebook.....

RayValdez360 · Oct 20, 2021

The compression is very bad. The real footage probably looks crazy in 8k.

amorse · Oct 20, 2021

I'm definitely curious to get a real look at it with a VR headset, but I do wish they had another video option to check out. Maybe it's just my own personal taste, but I am having a hard time watching more than a few seconds of that video.

Canon Rumors Guy · Oct 20, 2021

koenkooi said:
It's pretty impressive using a google cardboard thingy for your phone as well. I wish my phone would have a better resolution, 2532 x 1170 divided over 2 eyes gives a noticeable screen-door effect.
Now I need to find a pair of affordable, stand-alone VR goggles that don't require facebook.....

HTC Vive! I just bought my son Oculus last Christmas because of the price. I do hate the Facebook thing.

pauloancarvalho · Oct 20, 2021

Wow! This is incredible!

HurtinMinorKey · Oct 20, 2021

RayValdez360 said:
The compression is very bad. The real footage probably looks crazy in 8k.

Yah, compression appears to be a big factor even once you are at 4K. In my experience, even at 4K VR, anything below ~50Mbps has clearly noticeable artifacts, and you get big benefits all the way up to to 200MBPS (H265). Obviously, if you go up to 8K, you are going to need much higher bit rates than 4k to avoid artifacts.

pauloancarvalho · Oct 20, 2021

RayValdez360 said:
The compression is very bad. The real footage probably looks crazy in 8k.

Looks good to me on my 27k inch Apple Display, and I'm a professional video editor. This is very good quality. (make sure you manually select the higher output possible, 4320s or 2160s, lower than that I start noticing some compression artifacts, but nothing too crazy anyway)

snappy604 · Oct 20, 2021

Agree on the manually select quality.. also read instructions.. via browser meh, but via YouTube app you can look around

Berowne · Oct 20, 2021

snappy604 said:
Agree on the manually select quality.. also read instructions.. via browser meh, but via YouTube app you can look around

... look around, like Google Street-View?

RayValdez360 · Oct 20, 2021

pauloancarvalho said:
Looks good to me on my 27k inch Apple Display, and I'm a professional video editor. This is very good quality. (make sure you manually select the higher output possible, 4320s or 2160s, lower than that I start noticing some compression artifacts, but nothing too crazy anyway)

I did that 4k and 8k look no different. It's not clean.

RayValdez360 · Oct 20, 2021

HurtinMinorKey said:
Yah, compression appears to be a big factor even once you are at 4K. In my experience, even at 4K VR, anything below ~50Mbps has clearly noticeable artifacts, and you get big benefits all the way up to to 200MBPS (H265). Obviously, if you go up to 8K, you are going to need much higher bit rates than 4k to avoid artifacts.

I hope we can download the actually footage. 8K Vr seems kinda cool to watch.

PilslF · Oct 20, 2021

RayValdez360 said:
The compression is very bad. The real footage probably looks crazy in 8k.

agree, wish there was a way to download the master file somehow

HurtinMinorKey · Oct 20, 2021

pauloancarvalho said:
Looks good to me on my 27k inch Apple Display, and I'm a professional video editor. This is very good quality. (make sure you manually select the higher output possible, 4320s or 2160s, lower than that I start noticing some compression artifacts, but nothing too crazy anyway)

The real test is VR, and it’s artifact filled mess shot at 30fps (the limit of the R5 in 8k). Canon showing their inexperience with the format by debuting footage shot at 30fps for VR.

Tidy Media · Oct 21, 2021

This feels like a fever dream

Kit. · Oct 21, 2021

RayValdez360 said:
The compression is very bad. The real footage probably looks crazy in 8k.

I wouldn't expect 8k quality for it. Not even 4k quality off-center. It just doesn't have the proper number of pixels to start with.

manwithafrotto · Oct 21, 2021

Watched this on my quest 2 in VR, youtube and highest quality setting. Absolute garbage video quality, I can't believe Canon would use something of this quality to demo a new product. My insta360 EVO records higher quality VR180.

Hector1970 · Oct 21, 2021

Such an annoying video to demonstrate it. It explains the concept and you can move it around but that music is awful and a lifeless performance. Surely they was something better they could have used to demo it

HurtinMinorKey · Oct 21, 2021

manwithafrotto said:
Watched this on my quest 2 in VR, youtube and highest quality setting. Absolute garbage video quality, I can't believe Canon would use something of this quality to demo a new product. My insta360 EVO records higher quality VR180.

Agreed. They would have been much better using 4K 10 bit at 60fps as the source file, and then using Vimeo so they can make the original (uncompressed) available for download. Would have resulted in much better IQ and smoothness. Also, they choose a very dynamic scene which will make compression on Youtube look so much worse.

I am still going to pre-order this, but I won't keep it unless it ends up compatible with the R3, which can do 6K raw at 60fps.

jam05 · Oct 22, 2021

HurtinMinorKey said:
The real test is VR, and it’s artifact filled mess shot at 30fps (the limit of the R5 in 8k). Canon showing their inexperience with the format by debuting footage shot at 30fps for VR.

BS. You can cast VR from the headset to PC. May you should choose another device to view it on. Looks stunning ln my 65" monitor. The camera operator is not "Canon". Canon is a pioneer in 8k. Maybe a review in of the formats history.