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Before the Summer
A source that has been very quiet for the last couple of months has piped up and said we will be seeing a new camera announced before the summer. The camera will be the 1Ds Mark IV.

“There will be no 60D”.

Availability of the camera would be late summer.

Lenses would be announced with the camera, as usual.. there is no definitive info about what lenses.

World Cup
There will be a lot of gear tested at the World Cup in South Africa this year. Some of the new gear will be big white lenses. The source cautions not to expect anything imminent. The next round of lenses will be for the “wedding & niche” crowd.

Everything else is very quiet at the moment. At least we have the 5D2 firmware to look forward to.

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  • When is before summer for the USA? Just so I have an idea =)

    I really wanna see something new and exciting from Canon

    More lenses really hehe…

    ps 24-70 f2.8L IS II

  • i’m with first commenter: 24-70 f/2.8L IS, PLEEEASE.

    we purchased that lens recently (non-IS, obviously) and whilst i’ve gotten some really brilliant images out of it, the lack of IS is beginning to weigh on me a little.

  • We’ve been told to watch tomorrow March 9th.

    Although Canon’s roadmap seems to have changed a bit from one direction to another (specifically in the date of announcements/releases), we’ll see if March 9th is kept in the calendar.

  • Screw the 1Ds Mark IV.

    I want a 5D Mark III (with the 7D AF system, minimum).

    Oh, and I agree with Luke, it’s time for an EF 24-70mm f/2.8L IS USM.

  • How do we take “there will be no 60D”

    a. The 50D is the end of the XXD line
    b. Before summer, there will be no 60D.

  • Gear that would be nice in South Africa is something to stop catching aids. Aids is everywhere there. In the water, food, air – it’s all aids. The money is also made of aids. If canon could make a shield to protect aganist the aids, it would sell like azt filled hotcakes.

  • Before summer is before June or something

    Wishlist:

    24-70 2.8 L IS
    35 1.8 USM
    50 1.4 USM II
    300 4 L IS USM II

  • Well I’ve been told to watch myself around you in the shower if u need to bend over to pick up the soap

  • The only thing that Spain will bring home from south Africa is an ass full of the aids

  • Noticed during the last 2 week-ends at two major sporting events in South-Africa that some “unusual” long focal lenght lenses are being used on Canon cameras. The rear lens mounts and lenshoods are black and the middle 1/4 to 1/3 white.

    They appear slimmer than the long f4’s. My quess is it could be 500mm or 600mm f5.6’s or a new design? I took some shots of it at long range and are busy with some serious pixel peeling to see if i can make more sense out of it, but no luck yet.

  • The 5D3 can not come out before the 1Ds4, so if you want the 5D3 then you need to hope for a 1Ds4 announcement soon.

    To me a 1Ds4 before summer can bring a 5D3 for Fall 2010

  • 24-70 IS 2,8
    200-400 IS 4-5,6 or 400 IS 5,6

    this are the lenses i am waiting for …
    not more bodys

    i really have a nice cam with my 5dmk2 and need lenses to use the cam

  • “There will be no 60D.”

    Don’t think so, the price and performance gap between 500/550D and 7D is too big, it’s just asking for a mid-price camera to fill it. I think we will see another camera in the xxD lineup and it will be indeed called 60D. Only time will tell.

  • The bit about “wedding & niche” makes me think that a putative 24-70 IS won’t be announced until the next round.

  • Come on Canon just drop the 24-70mm MK II, 35mm f1.4 MK II and 1Ds MK IV so we can all get on with the buying and give up on the speculating.

  • To some extent i think this will depend on if Nikon replaces the D90 (with a seriuos upgrade), if they do we could see the 60D. Otherwise it will be the 550D vs “D7000” and 7D vs D300s/(D400). Rumours of a D300s replacement much sooner than expected.

  • That depends if Canon’s marketing strategy is purely head-to-head or not. Filling out a marketing gap that is not covered by the direct competitor makes a lot of sense.

  • I would expect it too rather sooner than later. This is the last chance for Canon to sell soon to be outdated philosophy. The gap is closing between manufacturers and I believe the next 1D V will be FF (oh my god, not again!). If the differences between the 1Ds & 1D were only MP count, there had been much less interest towards the twice the price for the 1Ds when one could have almost everything in one body – especially when the new 1D V has sufficient MP count (I expect it to be 21-27 but we’ll see).

  • Those still hoping for a 60D keep forgetting that the 50D was not discontinued when the 7D was announced. Just like when the 50D was announced, the 40D remained in the market with a lower price and was positioned below the newer cam but higher than the Rebel. So for those that think the 550D is too small/too amateurish and the 7D too big/pricey, then get the 50D and STHU. Most posers don’t care about the video anyway, or so they say (at least on the Intarwebs), so that shouldn’t be a big loss :P.

  • Indeed, it’s a fine camera (especially since it does’t have any video!) but getting a bit long in the tooth. Come to think of it, xxD line occupies a fine DSLR segment – takes pictures, not movies. Bring on updated 50D please and hold the frigging moving pictures.

  • You do realize, that unless you show us those pictures we won’t believe you.

  • For the 1Ds4, hope the following happens:
    – match the quantum efficiency of compact cameras or the D3s sensor
    – incorporate a number of useful 7D features

    For the lenses, Canon will hopefully release
    – 14-24 f/2.8
    – 24-70 f/2.8 IS
    – 50 f/1.4 USM II

  • No, it is not.

    Have a look at 550D, have a look at 50D – see features missing from 550D to make it the new 60D like the top LCD, the jog wheel etc?

    Let’s have a look at street pricing – 7D $1,639 or so, 550 $799 or so. That’s a grand between them, twice the price. It’s just screaming for another camera to fill the gap.

    550D is a fine camera but it is not the new 50D.

  • Wasn’t there supposed to be a 14-24 f/2.8L being created? as well as a 24-70 f/2.8L IS??

  • Since the movioe capabilities seem to detract from a camera so much shouldn’t a 60d perhaps be placed higher in line that the 7d? I mean, obviously a camera with the ability to record films must be seriously inferior. Or does that just sound idiotic?

  • It’s not the point, please feel free to read the entire thread before making a contribution.

    My point is, to make it more obvious for you, is that it is unlikely that there will no 60D. As fine as 7D and 550D are the gap between them seems too big as not to be filled in with a new camera – which is mostly likely to be called 60D.

  • They don’t, I don’t like them but the world does not seem to agree with me for some reason. 60D, if it will be made and I think it will, will probably have a movie mode. The point is the the price and performance gap between 7D and 550D is so big that it will probably be filled with another camera.

  • I wonder if Canon reps ever read these blogs? If so, they should know the base is craving for a 24-70 2.8 IS for a looooong time now.

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  • I’d agree if it wasn’t for video. Canon have found a market where $8,000 and $10,000 cameras are cheap. I’d think the MkV’s would both be FF but the 1D MkV would have fewer pixels and it’s customary 10fps, the 1Ds MkV would have stupid pixels 5fps and greatly enhanced video.

  • IS would not help this lens – but a more versatile ring flash system certainly would. No way to have auto focus with it either, based on the way the focus ring changes both magnification and the distance from the subject you need to be.

  • Could be possible for a fisheye – its on their current rebate list and the 15mm fisheye is getting a little old – still a great lens though, I love mine.

    Maybe a fisheye for the APS-C crowd?

  • Agreed, The macro ring flash needs a serious update. Quite apart from using bulbs as a modelling light. Lets see some LEDs and a higher quality system. Macro wise there isn’t much more canon need. Of course the 65 getting a tech update would be nice, but not sure what they could actually do.

  • “There will be no 60D”.
    Availability of the camera would be late summer.

    The question is – there will be no 60D in the WPPI? Or there will never be a 60D?
    and – the availability of which camera? 1Ds4 or 60D?

  • Enough about IS in a wide to standard zoom. You guys whine about it like its ridiculous that it hasn’t been there all along. IS is for tele and macro.

  • Nope. The 50D is more than 20 months old, and has many features missing that Nikon’s offerings have such as video, high ISO, etc.
    Canon cannot keep on using their 50D, espichally as it is showing its age and it did not turn out to be as popular. I, for one, think that 60D will be released in August, 2 years after the 50D and 3 years after the 40D.

  • the 550d provides everything the 50d would except the top display. they even upped the build quality on it.

  • I’ve been looking at the 17-40 for a while. The lens was produced in 2003, and I’m hoping it is due for an upgrade. I’d love IS on a wide angle.

  • People doing video would like IS in the low end as well. I know video is not for everyone, bout its hard to deny that may uses Canon bodies for this function.

  • Stop dreaming about a 5D Mark III. I’d actually argue Canon won’t produce another 5D camera with the same 1Ds sensor anytime soon after they saw their profits fall drastically as well they just can’t move the remaining 1Ds Mark III stock. The 1Ds Mark III is vastly superior to the 5D Mark II but there are just too many cheap photographers out there that think megapixels are everything.

    It will not be coming out for Fall 2010 either. You’d be lucky if you were seeing something for Summer or Fall 2011. You think they are going to release a camera to compete with the flagship camera right away? That would just be beyond retarded. Maybe if you guys weren’t too cheap you’d buy a 1Ds and then not have a serious need to buy a new camera for the forseeable future. I mean heck even the 1Ds Mark II is still a wicked camera. The 1Ds series cameras are designed to last 3-4 years before a real need for replacement. Worth the $8,000 price in my opinion.

  • seriously… post the pics or shut up…. if 500-600mm 5.6 lenses are real though that would be AWESOME!!!!

  • It’s been mentioned so many times that the price gap between the 550d and 7d is vast, possibly too large not to be filled. There are lots of people who are struggling to afford the 7d but wish to upgrade. If Canon are going to end the xxD range with the 50d they should state this so those hanging on for a 60d can either go down to the 550d, up to the 7d, or across to Nikon. A good number of prospectives won’t move until the 60d is announced or officially denied.

  • Make it go at higher FPS when shooting mRAW and sRAW and I’ll buy it, at any price.

  • Kevin, you are so right about cheap *wannaBe-Pros* and also probably right. about the Ds – apart from FIFA (Video-Rights-Problems, FootballWorldGames in SA) we beliefe that they will present a 1Ds MK IV at the Photokina 2010 here in Germany.
    Main Problem with/at Canon is, that the HQManagement made a fatal wrong decision by not buidling the 1st new Lens Factory in 2008 (regarding the Finacial Crises) and now…..now ..a lot of useres are dissapointet.

  • Noah used the 50 macro to email pictures to God during the Arks construction. If that isn’t overdue an upgrade by several generations then I don’t know what is. Doubt it will get it though.

  • The 50D was made obsolete by the 550D – If Canon’s marketing strategy is to attract people with MP, how can they ask people to spend more on a 50D when it has fewer MP? And no video? The 50D may be a fine camera, but it simply doesn’t fit into Canon’s marketing strategy. I seriously doubt it will not be replaced before the end of the year.

  • the 550D is a great camera, but it doesn’t have the full-size body or high speed drive shooting some require. I have larger hands and if I am shooting my Rebel for too long, i can feel it. The 50D is much better ergonomically for me. I purchased my 50D last week with trust in the rumors the 60D would not be available until end of summer at earliest. since i bit the bullet and bought the 50D, i’d say the 60D will be out in about a month.

  • It bogs me how some people need a 60D or something to fill the gap between a 550D and 7D (the price gap between a 7D and 5D2 or even a 5D2 and 1DS3 or later 4 is 2-3x bigger!). Obviously Canon is not going to put a better AF and be able to keep it down in that ‘inbetween’ price range (the xxD with the improved AF that is the 7d). All you are basically getting for a couple hundred bucks more over a rebel is better ‘ergonomics’ and 1-2 faster fps. For people who shoot action/wildlife/sports the better route would be to invest in a 7D. But those which I am going to assume don’t even shoot action/sports most of the time or at all do not need the better ergonomics of a top lcd or scrollwheel or the faster fps. You can get by perfectly fine with a rebel and invest those $300-500 hundred in some glass.

  • The advantage Nikon has over Canon is that they have a ton of interesting generalist cameras. These appeal to amateurs who can’t really take advantage of specialist tools. A 60D with 18 megapixels, slightly-improved AF over the 50D, and 1-stop iso improvement over the 50D would manage to sell; people with too much money and not enough sense would buy it for the 1-stop ISO improvement, even if there was a 600D accompanying it, and it would help pay for Canon’s research into better sensors.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Canon make the 7D line APS-C jump MP and pro-body/AF, and the x0D a jump in ISO performance for measurebaters. The 7D wouldn’t be objectively worse than the x0D, but stupid people could look at the x0D at 100% magnification and decide it has better high-ISO performance than the 7D line and thus buy it.

  • I think that was a smart move by Canon not to build it. I remember back then we saw a jump in price value for lenses since there were limited supply, though the demand didn’t shrink. The value of my lens suddenly jumped a couple hundred bucks while Canon could also sell their lenses for higher prices.

  • What strikes me as odd is that the 7D was touted as the “flagship” model of the APS-C family. If they mean to eliminate the xxD line, they’ll be left with only two “classes” of APS-C bodies: the flagship and the “other one.” I would think that designating something as flagship would indicate more gradation to the lineup.

  • I’m curious – do you use this lens on a full frame camera? I shoot hand held on my 5d2 with grip and consistently get great results all the way down to 1/50

  • *GASP* Ken said The Legendary Lens’ name!! I personally think 135mm f1.8 would be much better than IS.

  • John. B, you should lay the 1D Mark IV, it has more fps and probably half the cost.

  • I wish that the 1Ds4 would be RELEASED (not just announced) before the summer since I will be abroad for a long trip. Purchasing a 1Ds4 with a 24-70 f2.8 IS lens would be a no brainer for me, especially before my trip.

    Unfortunately, there is nothing wrong with my 1Ds2. :)

    M

  • Inst, I would have to say you summed it up and put it into words better than I could. Though I find it interesting when you mention they have “too much money and not enough sense.” If that were the case there would be less of the whining for a 60d and they’d jump ship to a 7d. Though I guess they have too much money for a rebel and they want a poser 7d camera and will pay more for the exterior cosmetic ergonomics. Sadly I think there is partially this other mindset from some amateurs or in general that investing in the bigger newer camera, their pictures are instantaneously going to be better…with the cheap kit lenses still on their camera body.

  • Let me guess: you’re the guy who so his 100 f/2.8 for the “new and improved and $500 more” L version right?

    Canon thanks you.

  • The gap between the 550D and 7D is not that big, 50D was 1500 when it first came out. What canon need is a model that will go back to the basics of photography. a model that have good dynamic range 9It is sad to mention that 40D has the best dynamic range in all APS-C of Canon) I am sure that if Canon use all the technology that have and drop the Meg pixel count, they can come up with a better dynamic range (look at 1D III). Also a lot of XXD user may not care about video at all. So If Canon comes up with a lower Pixel count, good dynamic range and NO video camera, it will be a good product.

  • This weekend I used a 200mm f/2L IS, and it was superb. A 135 f/2L with IS under two grand would be ideal for a crop camera, in my opinion.

  • what advantage would i have in buying a 550D over the 50D? my 50D is significantly faster at everything than my 450D. i would have liked to make the jump to the 7D, but i don’t need video and used the extra $600 for the 17-40 f/4L lens. i understand the 7D has advantages over the 50D, but the 550D seems like a stripped down 50D in a compact body.

  • I spoke to the Canon reps today at the NEC in Birmingham (Focus on Imaging 2010) and they were playing dumb on the exact release date for the 5D MkII firmware. They also denyed any knowledge of a 24-70 2.8 IS lens. “We’re only told about these things at the last minute” – yeah right!

  • I hope they eill finally release the long awaited 14-1200 f1.2 because i really want it

  • Unless you are an Asian guy, in which case the feel of something small (about 3-4 inches) and warm in your right hand is very familar.

  • No it does not, there are quite a few features missing from 550D that are present in 50D (for example microadjustments), built quality is also better. xxD line is simply more pro than xxxD.

  • Well it bogs me how some people cannot understand how some people cannot understand that the gap should be filled and most likely will be.

  • Advantages? With a 17-40L it seems action/sports/wildlife is not your priority, so..

    The major would probably be:
    550d improved sensor = better image quality
    550d light sensitivity is 2 stops better = better low light capability 1600iso on 50d = 6400iso on 550d

    The only major benefit of the 50d is the 2.6 fps.

    Now if you want to talk about the external build and ruggedness, I have owned a 40d and XT, XTi, XSi and have shot in harsh conditions of down pour and snow and both have survived with no problems what so ever. Granted both series are not weather proof (more like resistant to a certain degree of harsh conditions), but for what most people shoot in outdoor conditions there will be negligible differences IMO.

  • No, I’m the guy that has both, and can usable shots with the new version w/o having to pull out my monopod or tripod with the last version.

  • Have you seen that the 7D has less noise than the 50D, even though it has 3 more megapixels? That’s technology, I guess. And the 550D has 18MP, there is no way the 60D (if released) will have less. They produced a great sensor, I don’t see a reason why they shouldn’t put it in their cameras.

    No video? Why? Check out the price of 500D and 550D, when released. Very similar, right? Plus, the video makes a lot of people buy the camera. You’d have to be stupid to make a DSLR without video today, if you’re Canon/Nikon. Pixels and video sell the most.

  • i bought that particular lens with the cost savings of buying the 50D over the 7D. i shoot a lot of sports and have other lenses for that, including the 70-200 F/2.8L. light sensitivity is important to me. the 50D goes to 3200 ISO. are you saying that ISO is not usuable because of noise? is 6400 ISO less noisy on the 550D than the 3200ISO on the 50D? just curious to as why you said the 50D is only a 1600 ISO camera.

  • 2 stops better so the example of a 1600 noise shot on the 50d will be comparable to a 6400 noise shot on the 550d.

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  • i agree there seems to be a lot more fine tuning available on the 50D. i think the point most people are missing here is not everyone is making their entire living on selling their photos. i cannot justify spending $2500-$7000 on my camera body and then $4500 on a MacPro to do my editing, but i still want to be able to make the fine adjustments needed to get the perfect shot. the 50D seems to be a great camera, but it could use a minor update.

  • Then you photograph very different sorts of things than other people. The 17-55/2.8 IS is a killer lens on the crop cameras for indoor, low-light work. My 24-70 sits at home when I know the light levels won’t support shutter speeds faster than 1/50th or so, which for me is a LOT of the time.

    I do not understand this opposition to IS on a heavy, 24-70?2.8 lens. Yeah, the price will go up – hell, the price was going to go up anyway! – but the lens will be so much more useful. You’ll be able to use it at 1/15th handheld. No way to do that with the current version. This will get you photos with more depth of field because you can close down another stop or two, or photos that you would never have been able to make in the first place. It’s all good.

  • Given that cameras nowadays are as much computers as anything else, three to four years is an eternity. Canon needs to come up with something that competes with the D700 and D3s. I’ve been a longtime Canon user, but there’s no way I’m springing $8000 for a 1Ds camera body when I could buy TWO D700’s (or whatever its replacement turns out to be) plus some nice glass for that price. We need a full frame, well-featured (as in serious AF) body from Canon, or the migration will continue.

  • 7D will continue to drop in price. You can get one brand new right now with rebate for $1600. Add cash back and you can go much lower, like high $1400s. As far as crop sensor cameras are concerned I think the two choices are nice ones. Full featured blazing fast 7D or the very nicely equipped, small body T2i. The bigger issue if you ask me right now is in the higher ranges. 1D4 = $5000. 5D2 = $2400. 1Ds4 = oh wait there is no 1Ds4, so no one is buying a flagship camera right now from Canon if they can wait. There are two higher end gaps right now. At the top and in the middle between the 5D2 and 1D4 that are much more pressing than the lower end where you have 2 new cameras (T2i and 7D) meeting the needs of novices, amateurs, and pros alike.

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  • Have your boyfriend carry it in his rainbow fanny pack. You know the one, it has the upside down triangle on it.

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  • …to do what with? Like I need to ask that question.

    I think we all know what you will do to/with it.

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  • I agree with you 100% from a marketing point of view. However I have to total dis agree with you from the picture quality point of view. no doubt that the 7D has less noise than the 50D. It also give up the sharpness for the noise reduction. Even the 40D (10 MP) has more head room in the high light than the 7D. We are not yet talking about diffraction effect on aperture smaller than 7.3 yet. Canon is definitely giving up picture quality for the higher pixel count, even with the latest technology.
    Let us look at it from another angle. With the existing technology in Canon. The could have made the 1D IV the same pixel density as the 7D. This will be 27.33 Mp. However Canon still keep the 1D IV to be 16MP. This is a good proof that deep down, Canon knows the limitation of high pixel density and will not use high pixel density on their professional flagship product in order to keep the best picture quality.By the way 1D IV does have higher dynamic range than the 7D.
    If higher pixel sells than between 50D and 7D, canon should have cornered the consumer market.
    As for video, I would like to see some one hand held the DSLR as a video camera for a days shooting.

  • I would like to redefine the gap as:7D to 1D IV (both are SAP senser, even one is APS-C and the other one is APS-H); 5D II to 1Ds IV. If we look at them like that . The gap is even bigger.
    I will be happy to see a 6pD with the 1D IV sensor with the features of 7D and no video with the price tag of 5D II.

  • Great then we will have 280,000,000,000,000 shades of color. Just thinking about it make me feel ultra colorful. Then, I hate to think about that will slow down my data conversion by a factor of 4 compare to the existing 14 bit color.

  • Exactly. A fool who’s too easily parted with his money trying to justify his purchase.

    From DPR
    “Of course the big story with this lens is Canon’s new Hybrid IS, and it’s important to understand the system’s strengths and weaknesses. We found it highly effective at longer subject distances – under ideal conditions it delivers on the four stops benefit promised by Canon – but despite the new dual-sensor design it still doesn’t provide so much benefit at close distances. At 1:1 we found it delivered little more than a stop of stabilization – better than nothing for sure, but it’s not going to help with the relatively long exposures often required when shooting macros at F11 or F16. It also (by definition) can’t deal the inevitable back-and-forward sway of the photographer that throws the picture in and out of focus, and which can be only partially alleviated using continuous autofocus (even assuming you can place an AF point at exactly the desired position). So anyone expecting a ‘magic bullet’ for hand-held closeups will be disappointed, and for serious work you’ll still need a tripod (which shouldn’t come as any surprise to experienced macro shooters).”

    http://www.dpreview.com/lensreviews/canon_100_2p8_is_usm_c16/page6.asp

  • 1/(focal length) is just a rule of thumb for 35mm range finder film camera. To start with, for cop sensor. the minimum shutter speed will need to be 1.6X faster. then you throw in the weight of the equipment9are you comfortable holding it?0 then the human factor (are the hands sturdy or a old person with the shaky hand). We are not even talking about mirror bounce yet. so it can be easily becomes 1/(2.5X focal length) or more. So IS will be a nice feature to have. that is why Canon even put it on a cheap $100 lens (18-55mm f3.5-5.6 IS).

  • For many people IS would be useless in that focal range due to the nature of their subjects.

    For example, in my work the subjects would be people, and less therefore less than 1/50 of a second wouldn’t return an acceptable amount of keepers. For me IS would be of limited to no benefit, especially considering the premium ($$$) it would entail.

  • lol to wow, that was. But instantly regrets posting here, for obvious reasons.

  • They will release a long lens for the world cup with Hybrid IS. This will be a logical choice to show off their HIS lens for the future and give execellent image sharpness for the close up football shots!

    Agree?

  • There is a 1ds4. The sensor is currently testing at Tohoku. Algorithm testing completed. Camera comes in the fall. Stay tuned …

  • in terms of numbers the 50D is supposedly below the 7D. Perhaps that was what Canon wanted to instill… But 60D would be like a 7D without video, but perhaps great low light performance? Im not sure. Im not sure a 60D will ever come out at this rate -.-

  • Wow, what is it with all these 60D haters. Seems like people get really upset when the 60D is mentioned.

    I for one am hoping Canon will produce one. I really don’t need a 7D. However, I would basically like a T2i with the wheel in the back, the microfocus adjust, the larger body and maybe better autofocus. Yes, it would be worth a few hundred bucks to me. I will keep hoping, I really can’t see Canon having only a $700 body and a $1600 body. There is definitely room for a $1000 model. Let’s see…

  • IS is a good asset to any lens. If you do a lot of available light type of work you will appreciate the IS, whether the subject is still life or people. However I think that Canon is trying to get as much money as they can from the L lenses. They add $500 for the IS on L lens. Canon must be thinking that L lenses are business expense for the professionals. At the same time they can put IS on a $100 lens (kit lenses). Granted that the IS on the cheap lens may not be as effective as those on the L lenses. I agree with you the IS on L lenses are way overpriced.

  • Maybe it just isn’t economical for Canon to make a 60D.

    Maybe Canon wants people to hand over a few extra dollars for the 7D (which has a better margin than would a 60D) or keep a few extra dollars and buy the 550D (which also has better margins than would a 60D.)

    And if the 60D would take away sales from a more profitable 7D, why would they make it?

  • I am planning to rent a 600F4 this week-end and see if i can get some better shots of it, just hope they appear again at the same venue. If this does not work out i will send what i’ve got.

    p.s. After looking at the Nikon web-site it does not look that disimilar than their 200-400F4?

  • Maybe if i can explain the shooting conditions you will appreciate the shots i got of it was not ideal for seroius ID purposes (see my reply further on);

    Late afernoon, early evening.

    75m – 100m from subject.

    Canon 40D with 300F4 IS.

    Generally ISO 800 – 1600.

  • It’s ‘it’s’, as contraction of ‘it’ and ‘is’, ‘its’ is possessive adjective. If you correct someone, do it right.

    @whatever: methinks you are off by a zero :p

  • Say what you want between a 550d and a 50d… but that extra dial and a slightly wider gap between the lens mount and the finger portion of the grip counts for plenty imo.

    I’ll agree that IQ wise a 550d will probably surpass a 50d in most cases, but I think the handling of a camera is just as important as IQ, it makes shooting more enjoyable, and in some cases the better handling/more responsive camera can help you get a shot you might miss on another camera.

    Not saying the 550d isn’t great, but it’s no replacement for a xxd camera.

  • The 7D has better noise performance over ISO 800, but the 50D is better under that level.

  • I do quite a bit of available light work using fast primes with the ISO at 1600-2000. I aim for a shutter speed of 1/80th.

    I don’t see how IS would be of any real benefit.

    Just my two cents.

  • 35L? Unlikely, as the L performs quite well (understatement). A 35 f/2 or /1.4 for crop-only would be an option (to counter Nikons version) though. The 135L is possibly the sharpest prime they have, replacing that would just be stupid. The only ‘addition’ could be IS, but there are other lenses that need an update harder.
    Wedding photogs have their 85L, a nice 135L and a decent set of wide-angles to choose from. The only thing they ‘miss’ might be a zoom (although with low-light i’d prefer primes, but i don’t shoot weddings ;) )

    Hmmm… now i think of it, how about a soft-focus? The 135 has one, quite some photogs might commit murder to get a 85 SF…

  • Hey, rather why not cook something for us sweet cheeks?

    Oh, and I think the bathroom needs cleaning too….while you are at it.

  • Actually, what I really mean is that Canon will produce a 60D which will be worse than the 7D Mark 2. By having two pro-amateur models they can try to seduce people into paying more than they should; the x0D will offer ISO improvements before the 7D line does, but it won’t come with advanced autofocus or a weatherproof body. So, for the “more money than sense” crowd, they will be incited to buy the x0D to get the best APS-C high-ISO performance Canon can provide even though it means the loss of 7D autofocus and weatherproof bodies.

  • Fair enough. Redefine away. In any case, Canon is very much due for a 1Ds4 and in the next year a 5D3. In the meantime, how about more lenses? They break the bank, but if they are as good as recent releases like the the 24 and 17 tse and the 100 2.8 L IS, and the 15-85 then I’m fine with that. What I’m not fine with is paying $1200 plus for lenses with real disadvantages.

  • Yes, agree with you. Everytime someone mentions a 60D, a bunch of whiners appear. Like, get the 7D then..or the 550D..Well, why? The 7D may be too expensive for someone, but the 550D may not have enough features. That’s a gap that should, a probably will be filled.

  • If they make the new version waterproof, that may be a sign that the next Flood is coming…

  • You can get a 7d for $1300-1400 cashback or about $100 more than a 50D when it came out.

  • And you could get the 60D for ~1000$. 100$ is a lot for someone, with not a lot of money, that’s buying their first DSLR. 400$ too. But no one knows how much the 60D will cost, if released, so we can just talk about this all day long..Why did the 1000D came? It’s a few dollars cheaper than the XSi..

  • Even if they do announce a 24-70 f2.8L IS before summer, you can count on probably not being able to get one until this time next year. Given good reviews, wildly popular will be putting it mildly.

  • I agree, IS never hurts, especially since the 24-70 2.8 is already being used a lot for video. I hope this lens is made video friendly.

    IS on the 17-55 2.8 has been very helpful very often. Night city shots for one thing. I’ve gotten lots of crisp shots at 1/8 sec, and even some at 1/4 sec hand held.

    IS is also good for small aperture shots, and for letting you capture creamy running streams or waterfalls hand-held.

    There’s always some people who claim that improving a product is not necessary. They just don’t have much imagination.

  • I wish Canon will make a simpler version of 7D. Cut out the video and the live view function (too slow) of 7D. Put in a 12 MP sensor with the same technology as the 7D sensor. This will be a real photographer’s tool.

  • We’re talking “normal” street prices. Most people don’t know anything about Bing. Plus, you could get the T2i (or the 60D) with Bing also, so your statement it mute – the price difference is the same.

  • Who are we to ask at Canon if they will be making a 60D? I know this sounds simplistic, but has anyone asked? Will they just ‘not comment’ in order to keep people from delaying a purchase?

  • Just a few words about new white lenses.
    Hopefully Canon will announce something compatible to Nikkor 200-400 f/4.0 – Nikon-users LOVE it!

  • Erm, none of that will happen, if we look at the current cameras.

    No video would be a ridicolous move, you can’t compete with other Video SLR’s, especially Nikon, and this sells a lot of cameras.

    Live View? Will probably stay forever..

    12 megapixels? This is Canon ;) I know, I wouldn’t mind a 15MP 60D but if the 550D has 18MP then the 60D will have too.

    They do things that are good for photographers, but they have to think about what is selling those cameras. Video definitely does.

  • Figure this scenario:

    You are a pro and need a pro tool. You go to a pro store and they have these 2 options:

    The 1DS MK4 and Pentax 645D, both in a very close price tag.

    Witch one would you buy?

    The crunked 35MP 36x24mm sensor or the 40 MP 44x46mm sensor?

  • It really depends what group of photographer that Canon is after. just remember that the most expensive new APS-C camera from Canon has the lowest pixel count (16MP). No video and live-view is for cost cutting. Between 50D and 7Dm, Canon should have learned the lesson about high pixel count. 50D is not selling well. 7D is sold on features, not picture quality. Just remember why Canon Rumor will not give 7D the camera of the year award. Ever test site pointed out that the 50D demands L lens to make full use of the pixel count. &D will demand more than 50D. Don’t get me wrong, I do use L lenses. However Canon teams up the T1i and the T2i with the cheap 10-55 mm kit lens or the 15-85mm or another cheaply made lens that cannot let user fully explore the potential of high pixel count sensor. That defeats the whole idea of pixel count. It looks like to me that Canon does not care about picture quality any more for the general except for the 1D users. And the general public only chase after the specification instead of picture quality. “I have a 18 mp camera, so my picture must be better than your 12 mp picture” Some people may argue that higher pixel count will be good for cropping. they are right. But at the same time that my not have learn the photography right. In the old days, all photographer learn not to crop buy doing the composition carefully with the changing of position and/or change lens. If you sre shooting slides, there is no cropping.

  • This sound like a 40 year old question has been resurface again.
    “Would you buy a Leica, a Nikon F or a Hasselblad???”

  • Sorry, Too much typo mistake. This is a fixed version:

    It really depends what group of photographer that Canon is after. just remember that the most expensive new camera (1D IV) from Canon has is an APS sensor with the lowest pixel count (16MP). No video and live-view is for cost cutting for my proposed camera that should be priced between 7D and T2i. Between 50D and 7D, Canon should have learned the lesson about high pixel count is not the best way to go. 50D is not selling well. 7D is being sold on features, not picture quality. Just remember why Canon Rumor will not give 7D the camera of the year award.It is due to picture quality. Every test site pointed out that the 50D demands L prime lens to make full use of the pixel count. 7D will demand more than 50D. Don’t get me wrong, I do use L lenses. However Canon teams up the T1i and the T2i with the cheap 10-55 mm kit lens or the 15-85mm or another cheaply made lens that cannot let user fully explore the potential of high pixel count sensor. That defeats the whole idea of high pixel count. It looks like to me that Canon does not care about picture quality any more for the general public except for the 1D users. And the general public only chase after the specification instead of picture quality. “I have a 18 mp camera, so my picture must be better than your 12 mp picture” Some people may argue that higher pixel count will be good for cropping. they are right. But at the same time they may not have learned the photography right. In the old days, all photographer learn not to crop by doing the composition carefully with the changing of position and/or change lens. Zoom lens is not that good in those days. If you are shooting slides, cropping is not even an option.

  • You’re probably right, but Canon have brought about the confusion themselves. When the 7D was introduced they made it clear it was not a 50D relacement, but a new category. Canon should issue a statement to clarify the situation, a “roadmap” would be even more helpful.

  • What’s “laughable” is that you think you know what Canon will do. I think a 60D would sell quite well. We shall see. And thanks for proving my point. When someone mentions the 60D, people get nasty. Weird…

  • What we need is a camera that is simple and basic and take good picture. We do not need a 300 page instruction book that comes with the camera. We do not need a camera that demands the best lens to use the potential of the high pixel count of the sensor. we do not need a camera that clips the highlight due to the small size pixels.I wish Canon will wake up and come up with something that fits the above requirement. Call it 60D or 6D or whatever Canon wants to. Too bad the Leica M9 is so expensive. Otherwise it will fit the bill perfectly. Except that you cannot use any lens longer than 135mm on it.

  • Canon 5d Mark 2 prices have dropped in Singapore by $700 SGD (roughly 450 USD) . Maybe a sign of things to come.

  • “What gets me is people who can’t seem to understand that the 7D is the 60D. This was mentioned at this very website a year ago.”

    What gets me is that people cannot tell a rumour and a fact apart just like that cannot understand that an opinion does not constitute a fact.

    You don’t know for sure what will happen just like I don’t know it, what you have read on this website are rumours, not announcements or facts.

    I think that 60D is coming, it is my opinion based on the current pricing of 7D and 550D and their positioning. 7D being xD series represents top-of-the-line, 550D is an advanced amateur camera, xxxxD (assuming that it will be refreshed) is the entry level DSLR. What is missing is a prosumer DSLR that offers some features of 7D at a reduced price by omitting some advanced pro ones.

    The is my fairly educated guess based on what Canon has done so far, only time will tell.

  • I’ve never read so much crap in my life. Shouldn’t you people be out taking good photographs instead of moaning about megapixels and the rest?

    I bet there are quite a few posters here who have never taken a decent photo in their lives and think the next advancement in camera technology will make them the next Cartier-Bresson! WA’better ‘better’ camera will not make you a better photographer.

    You are all hilarious. Hats off to you!

  • Check out this rumor.

    http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/cameras/Canon_60D.html

    Long live the xxD category. Canon would be stupid to throw away a category they have so well groomed. The 50D sensor was a step backwards in low noise performance (from what I have read in reviews) and so Canon needs to bring a replacement that will get all the 30D and 40D owners to the buying table. In the era of the internet, you MUST get excellent reviews if you want sales to hit it out of the park.

    Face it, if we are holding onto our 20, 30 or 40D after seeing the 7D, we are clearly not wanting to upgrade to a new category. So what will get us to move up? Canon knows. Be brave, Canon. Lower the pixel count as you did with the G11, increasing the dynamic range and low-light performance and just see what happens. Just wish they would say when it will arrive. ;-)

    P.S.
    To all the folks who say we moan and groan about ISO performance. When you are shooting with a circular polarizer late in the day, you want ISO performance at F8-F11. Am I missing something?

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