Deal: Canon EOS RP body & mount adapter $1046 (Reg $1299)

CanonFanBoy · Sep 20, 2019

Who'd have ever thought 5 years ago that a FF camera from Canon would be $1,000.00? Great times!

SouthpawSD · Sep 20, 2019

Does the RP have c-log? If so, I might have to jump on this. I have really enjoyed log after having the R from CPS a few times ....

ddixon · Sep 20, 2019

SouthpawSD said:
Does the RP have c-log? If so, I might have to jump on this. I have really enjoyed log after having the R from CPS a few times ....

Sorry, no C-Log

padam · Sep 20, 2019

The body feels great with small lenses, I like the quieter shutter and mode dial, but I felt that it was too crippled in other aspects and most of the lenses will be big anyway, so the R might worth the extra cost (until the RP gets even cheaper)

Also worth mentioning the upcoming firmware update, which is mainly focusing on the AF system (either due on the 26th or 30th according to different sources). According to testers, it will make a bigger difference on the R than on the RP.

SteveC · Sep 20, 2019

padam said:
The body feels great with small lenses, I like the quieter shutter and mode dial, but I felt that it was too crippled in other aspects and most of the lenses will be big anyway, so the R might worth the extra cost (until the RP gets even cheaper)

Also worth mentioning the upcoming firmware update, which is mainly focusing on the AF system (either due on the 26th or 30th according to different sources). According to testers, it will make a bigger difference on the R than on the RP.

I (mostly) enjoyed my brief time with the R (a couple of things drove me crazy but I believe they are customizable). The RP would be tempting at this price...but then I realize I do NOT know what it's like in hand.

padam · Sep 20, 2019

SteveC said:
I (mostly) enjoyed my brief time with the R (a couple of things drove me crazy but I believe they are customizable). The RP would be tempting at this price...but then I realize I do NOT know what it's like in hand.

It is nicely designed, I haven't heard any complaints, except some people can't handle it properly without the extension grip (but after that it may even be better for them than an R without a vertical grip)
I have smaller lenses than the RF 35/1.8, and they felt great on it (while the R feels a bit too bulky and heavy for them)

But there are too many other things, where they did the crippling job too well (hacking this camera would be huge, plenty of software-based limitations)
On the other hand, it also gives them more leeway to lower the price even more if needed.
Right now, I would say there are better deals on the grey-market R considering what it offers, but as a tiny minimalist FF camera from Canon, the RP isn't bad at all.

ronno · Sep 20, 2019

Two reasons I would hesitate:
1. Dynamic Range is not great, definitely worse than the R.
2. The LCDs are low resolution and just look very grainy/ pixelated to me. A dealbreaker.

But if those things don’t bother you, the price is right.

Bennymiata · Sep 21, 2019

There are big sales on R's (both bodies and lenses) at a couple of large retailers in Sydney right now.
Prices are down by around 15-20% and are now cheaper here than at B and H.

Very tempting.

ronno · Sep 21, 2019

Bennymiata said:
There are big sales on R's (both bodies and lenses) at a couple of large retailers in Sydney right now.
Prices are down by around 15-20% and are now cheaper here than at B and H.

Very tempting.

I am getting great image quality and excellent focus from the R with the kit lens.

melgross · Sep 21, 2019

If this grey market, I wouldn’t count on a Canon USA guarantee. That’s separate from their worldwide guarantee. If they’re allowing g it now, that’s a major change in policy. Any evidence of this?

ritholtz · Sep 21, 2019

CanonFanBoy said:
Who'd have ever thought 5 years ago that a FF camera from Canon would be $1,000.00? Great times!

During next holiday season, Canon is going to sell this for $900 along with $350 worth of free printer.

mb66energy · Sep 21, 2019

Bad times to live in germany: Not available in Germany. @ 1000 Bucks it would be really great to have one ... to reuse the old FD lenses, would like to see how the 4.0 17 performs and some (better) EF lenses I own.

Graphic.Artifacts · Sep 22, 2019

You might be better of with an M6 Mark ii. The sensor in the RP is bit of a dinosaur that’s going to minimize some of the benefits of going full frame.

SteveC · Sep 22, 2019

Graphic.Artifacts said:
You might be better of with an M6 Mark ii. The sensor in the RP is bit of a dinosaur that’s going to minimize some of the benefits of going full frame.

I too find myself wanting to know what the next full frame sensor(s) will be like before I move on an RP (or R). Almost everyone here thinks there will be an 83 MP sensor (32 MP APS-C expanded to full frame whilst retaining the pixel density). Now I know part of the benefit of FF is you can reduce the pixel density, but it would still just seem...odd...to get a full frame camera with fewer pixels total than the crop sensor camera I also intend to get.

So I'm hoping they come out with a FF sensor in the 40-50 MP range too. But even 35MP or so would be good.

Talys · Sep 22, 2019

SteveC said:
I too find myself wanting to know what the next full frame sensor(s) will be like before I move on an RP (or R). Almost everyone here thinks there will be an 83 MP sensor (32 MP APS-C expanded to full frame whilst retaining the pixel density). Now I know part of the benefit of FF is you can reduce the pixel density, but it would still just seem...odd...to get a full frame camera with fewer pixels total than the crop sensor camera I also intend to get.

So I'm hoping they come out with a FF sensor in the 40-50 MP range too. But even 35MP or so would be good.

Well, I imagine that almost everyone with a 1D has a crop and/or cell phone with much higher pixel density. The real question on pixel density is whether you have the glass and the ability to use it to to make a lower pixel density body work. Not many people really want 30 or 50 or 80 megapixels in their finished product; most just want a great 10 megapixel crop/reduction.

SteveC · Sep 22, 2019

Talys said:
Not many people really want 30 or 50 or 80 megapixels in their finished product; most just want a great 10 megapixel crop/reduction.

My philosophy is, take the highest quality data one can handle, then, at the last step, reduce it to what you need. You may want another go at it later with higher quality, which you can only do if it was there in the first place.

I may post something only 800 pixels wide--but it started at 4000, even though my camera would take it at a lower resolution to begin with.

My attitude might be different, of course, if I took far more pictures than I do, but these days, storage is cheap, $30 or so per terabyte. (Compare to the late 80s when storage typically cost ten dollars per megabyte...that works out to being ten MILLION dollars per terabyte.)

geffy · Sep 22, 2019

think the m50 is still the best small camera deal but will be buying an R once i clear out the pro mirror camera

CanonFanBoy · Sep 22, 2019

Talys said:
Well, I imagine that almost everyone with a 1D has a crop and/or cell phone with much higher pixel density. The real question on pixel density is whether you have the glass and the ability to use it to to make a lower pixel density body work. Not many people really want 30 or 50 or 80 megapixels in their finished product; most just want a great 10 megapixel crop/reduction.

If I can frame a photo in camera so that I do not have to crop at all in post I am very happy. That rarely happens. Still, I save every original full size file as a tiff, my edited photo as a tiff and jpeg, and then reduce resolution to 125 for web posting... saving each of those too. You are right. High megapixel like the 80+ being talked about would make more cropped versions of the same photo possible without the finished product looking bad.

There have been photos I have taken that I would like to dissect into more variations, but then resolution takes a dive if the area cropped ends up being too small. I do post on the web, but when I send off for a print I like 20x30". Most of those are gifts to family or an especially nice photo to a subject that has generously donated his/her time for me to practice.

CanonFanBoy · Sep 22, 2019

padam said:
Also worth mentioning the upcoming firmware update, which is mainly focusing on the AF system (either due on the 26th or 30th according to different sources). According to testers, it will make a bigger difference on the R than on the RP.

I wonder why that is, if it is the same firmware? Sensor?