Adorama has Capture One Pro 21 Photo Editing Software, Product Key Card as their Deal of the Day for only $179 (Reg $299). This is the full version of the software. This will also include a FREE upgrade to Capture One Pro 22 when it comes to market in the coming months.
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Capture One Pro 21 $179 (Reg $299)
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I pay about $8.30 per month for PS and LR and unlimited upgrades, Capture One Pro is normally $299 with limited upgrades, that is 36 months of Adobe. Can you explain how Adobe is guilty of "robbery"? Particularly when the C1P monthly price is $24.00!
Capture One is trying to position themselves as premium.. there are some quite good things to it, but wouldn't consider the cost at right level to purchase for me (I don't earn money from photography). COP does some things really well.. was impressed with their color replacement. Most of it is fairly intuitive and quick, but some things irked me (file mgmt stuff)..
At least you get the option of subscription or permanent license (which Adobe reneged on.. I can't reinstall my LR6, I did try a long time). I can and have used software for longer than 3 yrs. I did a trial of their software and honestly aside from new format support, didn't really see any significant improvements over LR6 and they were jerks about cancelling my trial, tried to charge me.
I did try DX0 and it seemed sluggish at time (may try again).. Have for some reason stuck with On1, but have had challenges with them too.. The latest version with their new noise engine is quite decent, though still having issues with canon color profiles. cost is similar to LR whether you go subscription or in my case permanent with a reasonable upgrade cost if I choose to.
I really think of CO as a replacement for Photoshop, in that I can do almost all my editing there, with the addition of live shooting. Though if I keep getting hired to shoot big events I might switch over to PhotoMechanic to handle my cataloging and culling, eschewing LR for only my personal work.
We live in a strange world, where lots of folk complain about how much they pay for a subscription, calculating to the last cent whether A is better value than B.
But those same people often leap into spending vastly greater amounts on a new lens that might only be used a few times before being sold or confined to a cupboard for months on end. Or they’ll leap at a new body, that in all honesty won’t produce better shots than the one they already own.
My main considerations when choosing editing/DAM software were:
The upgrade is $199....that $179 would be a savings.
I like the license model of C1....I actually skipped version 21 which saved me money. I like only upgrading when the software warrants it.
I'm thinking I'd like version 22...with the addition of pano and HDR built in. I enjoyed that with On1 RAW. I prefer the color controls and RAW engine of C! too. The controls are a bit wonky, but after a couple months you get used to that...user interface isn't that big a deal to learn new on any tool.
I might do the $179 deal as my "upgrade" since it will lead to version 22.....hmm.
cayenne
Well, C1 at least offers a choice between purchasing license and subscription.
I rarely find any software out there improved each year to be sufficiently new or have new functionality that I can't live without.
So, I don't generally buy every year. Over time with me, at least, this seems to be cost efficient.
And as I've stated before on other threads, I just do NOT want to rent my software. I left all adobe products for just this reason.
If Adobe would allow the option of lifetime license purchase for a version, I'd likely consider using their tools again.
I replaced LR with On1 RAW and moved from there to C1 which I like now. I went to Affinity Photo to replace PS...and aside from a small learning curve I'm happy with AP and in many ways find it superior to PS. The engine underneath is MUCH faster for one.
And I bought AP years ago and so far, all updates have been free for me. I"ve been so impressed with their products, support and all, I bought their suite of Affinity Photo, Affinity Designer and Affinity Publisher.
Of course to each his own....if you prefer the subscription model, more power to you.
But I will not support any company that forces one to RENT their software.
And these days....it isn't like Adobe is the unchallenged superior product producer any more...other companies have caught up and in some case, surpassed them.
C
However, being a product photographer I am forced to use C1 for the amazing tethering capabilities and live capture. It's indespensible. If LR had this capability I'd probably never use C1 again. Not needing the other tools much in C1, I typically buy a license and just don't upgrade. Hell I think I'm still on C1 11 and it works fine.
As was mentioned I think it's too expensive for what it is, especially compared to what you get with Adobe. I like the new Adobe model. I remember when Adobe used to charge upwards of $600+ per program.
Seriously, it’s only a matter of time before all but the most basic image editors are subscription-only, so if you want added features, or if you update your bodies or lenses, you’ll unfortunately have to eventually support a company that forces you to rent.
If you intend to keep the same gear indefinitely, and don’t want or need improved functionality, then it might make more sense to purchase a lifetime licence for software that you like. But I’ve seen LR improve by leaps and bounds over the years. And in 3 weeks time when the latest update is released, LR will have AI masking, invertible masks and several other additional tools that will make it even better.
I’ve used LR for years, and currently use LR Classic, which for me is by far the most rounded and intuitive product, and provides image quality that satisfies me. Unlike most competing products it incorporates a superb DAM, and integrates seamlessly with PS on the relatively rare occasions when I need a pixel-based editor.
But as you say, each to their own. Enjoy your photography!
I mean, the rental model for software isn't actually all the old.
I don't like having to upgrade until the company actually makes improvements that I just can't live without. I also am not a fan of the subscription model doing upgrades at any given time that can break things, right in the middle of serious work.
It isn't like this hasn't happened more than a few times with Adobe in past year since CC came into being.
But I bought into C1 a version or two ago. I think maybe $299 or something....
I've not seen reason to upgrade till maybe the coming version 22. If it proves to be worth it to me, I'll upgrade for about $199 I think.
I guess I'm just older and old fashioned before anyone even thought about subscription software. Hell, I"m still used to the day when you went to a store and physically bought media to bring home to install. Even that wasn't that long ago.
I know "technically" you don't own the software, you're licensed to it...but aside from some semantics, you bought it. and you "owned" is and could install it on your computer and didn't have to have an internet connection to let it phone home, etc.
I prefer to keep as close to the older model as possible, it keeps more rights and control on the side of the customer which I believe it should reside.
C
Once both markets had reached saturation point, it was pointless continuing with the no longer profitable licence model, so they switched to the subscription model. And don’t forget that it is those subscriptions that fund further development and new products.
None of the other brands have reached anywhere close to saturating the market with their products, so for the time being, they can attract more customers with the licence model. But if their success continues, as it almost certainly will, they too will ultimately find it necessary to switch to subscription-only. Just wait and see.
I’d be very surprised if it actually turned out cheaper to use Capture One (etc) in the long run. You spent $300 a couple of years ago, and are talking about spending another $200 in a couple of years time, so $500 for 4 years, without any intermediate upgrades.
But with Adobe you spend roughly the same amount over the same period, you get RAW upgrades almost immediately after each camera or lens is released, and you get valuable new features and performance upgrades every few weeks. Not only that, but in addition to LRClassic and CC, you get Photoshop, ACR, Bridge and a whole lot more, all in the basic package.
Now, if you genuinely prefer the *output* from other software, or the interface, that’s absolutely fine, it’s down to personal taste, but the economic argument doesn’t really hold water.
I don't believe any software package should be *rented*.
Do you pay your mortgage monthly? How about your gas and electricity bills? And your water and sewage bills? And how about your council tax (or whatever equivalent is in your country)?
And if you are in employment, you also pay your taxes monthly?
So to have a “principle” against paying for software monthly seems irrational to me.
Especially when it’s arguably cheaper than buying a licence every couple of years….