A lot of Canon's DSLR lineup is becoming a bit long-in-the-tooth. Canon hasn't announced a professional DSLR body since the EOS 5D Mark IV in August of 2016.
We're told that Canon will “likely” address the EOS-1D X line sometime in 2019. If we had to guess, we'd say the 4th quarter of 2019 would be the earliest we'd see an EOS-1D X Mark III.
While the EOS R is obviously the future of full frame ILC cameras, there will be at least one more iteration of the EOS-1D X we're told. The source mentions that “Full frame mirrorless isn't yet advanced enough to take over the duties of the EOS-1D line in Canon's eyes”. I think in a lot of professional photographers would agree with that way of thinking.
We also expect to see a follow-up to the EOS 5D Mark IV before that line goes mirrorless. Though as previously mentioned, we think the EOS 5DS line is going to move to EOS R instead of a Mark II EF mount version.
Obviously, there weren't really any specifications given for an EOS-1D X Mark III, but the source did claim that the new camera would have a new version of DPAF and other sensor technology. Though things like megapixels, framerates and video features are likely a long way from being finalized.
If they release a 1D X Mk3 now maybe they can make a "EOS R 1" prototye until Tokyo Summer Olympics 2020.
As long as they say “hmm we can’t with mirrorless and so we should still make a DSLR” they won’t be making great leap forwards like other competitors did.
We can wait a bit more if they can deliver with that, at least in my opinion. What do you guys think?
The 1dx2 is a great camera. Image quality is excellent, maybe better than 5d4. Video is great. Not sure how it feels "really ancient."
The AF of the Nikon D5 simply out performs the 1DX2. So many wildlife photographers are dumping Canon gear and switch to Nikon. And Canon does not have a camera body even comparable to the D850. Hopefully, Canon will at least close the gap if they lack the technology to take the lead.
I like my 1DX2 but the keeper rate for BIF is far below a D5.
I would actually expect a 1D equivalent in the RF mount sooner than 4-5 years. It would make sense to overlap them a bit. Say, 2021-2022.
I wouldn't think so. A "Flagship R body" could mean a number of different things, most likely a direct competitor to the Z 7 and A7RIII, so higher MP (and if rumors hold, maybe 75 MP). It could mean an A9 competitor or a "1D lite".....we'll see. I would expect one of those in 2019.
Will the Canon glacier move?
After the 5DSR came out, the king of image quality shifted to that body. With severe limitations albeit.
But the 5D4 came out later, and made the compromises that made it the best all-around body, better in most use cases in image quality than the 1DX, many more additional features, a non-limiting size and form factor. But yes, unwarrantedly slow for a pro camera.
When the 1DX2 came out, it was an improvement, but an incremental one, where the 5D3 to the 5D4 move was much more radical.
If a 1DX3 comes out and it can't use the RF lenses, and a new 5-series comes out in RF, so it can exploit those lenses (as is rumored) then that really puts the nail in the coffin of the 1 series' flagship status. Yes, there will continue to be a good use case for a 1DX style body where low 20s megapixels is fine; it's just not a sort of flagship most people are looking for now.
On the other hand, the comment that CR Guy's source made about Canon's mirrorless tech not being adequate to the mission of the 1 series does seem to portend that the RF system - even with a "5" series entry in 2019 - may be even worse than we thought speed-wise.
My personal wishlist for some new features on such a camera would be:
Excellent insights adroitly avoiding anything that would draw "flames" from rational individuals!
I love my 5D IV, and I also believe it is a much bigger improvement over the 5D III than generally recognized. It fits my needs perfectly, as I don't do anything often enough that benefits from several thousands of dollars more of FPS. Plus it just fits my hands like it was tailor made.
The only thing that gets me hot and bothered about RF is the lure of lenses that will no longer be updated for EF. Namely, at this time, the 50mm f/1.2L. Plus being able to forget about AFMA, and, maybe, the most controversial feature ever, IBIS.
No flames, lol! Agree that the 1D/1Ds has now been split into 1Dx/5DS but the 1D series still retains flagship status in another category besides FPS and that is price.
I'm not surprised that the 1D series would be the last to transition to mirrorless. The mirrorless successor must have a similar user experience. It can't have the idiosyncrasies that the R has with the multifunction bar, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if the 1DX3 was designed alongside the 400 III and 600 III. There is a reason why those lenses were released as EF as opposed to RF.
The R does not supplant the 5D4. And cameras that will be released next year have been in development for the last couple years. The R EVF is good, the single shot AF is great, but there are other aspects that make the 1D a 1D. One can argue that the R obsoletes the 6D2, and it's possible the next R ("flagship") might obsolete the 5D4. Canon probably has the tech now to make a mirrorless 1D camera, but that would be released 3-4 years down the road.
Yes, and on the flipside, the commodity class of budget dSLR's and their ef-s mates will likely be the last to see end-of-production.