I believe they try to make the exactly opposite convertor. To connect the poor little silly new future short lenses that they will supposedly design for the delight of a few forum users to the classic forever living EF mount
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Technically, it is possible to fit a pancake inside a 5D once you remove the mirrorI believe they try to make the exactly opposite convertor. To connect the poor little silly new future short lenses that they will supposedly design for the delight of a few forum users to the classic forever living EF mount
Ditto to that.And, they use their time to design the new super 7DMkIII and 5DsRII cameras. Because, no matter what internet surfers - and not necessarily Canon users - say the above cameras would sell a lot!
Jeez there Neuro..... chill out! It's not that simple..... There have to be 11 wires in it too!
Yeah, Canon needs more wires to improve their lens DR.right that's it, if it doesn't have at least 15 they'll still be playing catch-up with the market leader so I'm offtt. Cnon.
That makes no difference to my point. FYI, the grey market goods in UK are generally about 20-25% cheaper than the High Street which sorta suggests they are avoiding VAT, which matches your description of prices in the US and how a shop can offer at grey market prices. But that does not avoid the fact prices of 5DIV in UK have been relatively stable for the last 2 years, nor does it avoid the fact that relying on ebay prices to support an argument is dodgy in the extreme.
And my point is that Canon clearly does not need to reduce its prices (if it did they would have done so) yet Sony with supposedly superior products need to reduce theirs to compete with Canon.
That is the problem with the market - it gives a genuine picture of what the population as a whole thinks of a product. I am not saying that Canon does not need to respond because it clearly does. My point is, and always has been, that the urgency with which they need to respond is far, far lower than the doom-mongers, Sony fanboys, and geen-eyed Sony wannabes (those wishing Canon would copy them) make out.
There are lots of ways to interpret any piece of information, but some are logical while others are nonsensical. The tech has been around since Sony launched the a7 and a7R in 2013. Hardly new. Yet only now (in one country, for a short time period) is Sony ahead of Canon for FF ILC revenues. The tech isn't different, what's changed is the recent launch of zero FF ILCs by Canon vs. 2 FF ILCs from Sony – one at <$2K (and lower cost is what buyers really want, your "educated buyers" tripe notwithstanding).
Apparently you pull your "facts" from the same nether orifice AvTvM gets his...or maybe you get yours more locally and someplace cleaner, say...from a box of Cracker Jacks. Regardless, according to CIPA for the 6-month period we're talking about, 18% of ILCs went to the Americas (which comprise more than just the US, last time I checked).
Have you tried shopping for a D850 in the past 6 months? They've been backordered at all major online retailers (although there are a few 3rd party sellers on Amazon selling them for several hundred dollars over MSRP). Kinda hard to sell cameras if they're not available, 'eh?So you’re saying that if Canon launched the 6DII now, they would be outselling Sony? That seems quite a dubious claim (Also, quite interesting that Nikon has not been #1 in FF sales in the U.S. in the past year with its D850, since that was a recently released FF camera and by your standards, “newness” is what counts.)
LOL. Try to be more clear with the intent of your sarcasm, mate. Mikehit stated that Canon doesn't care about the US, so your sarcastic reply that 50% of ILCs are sold in the US came off as something you believed, stated in sarcastic tone. Now, it seems you're backpedaling when presented with the actual facts.And apparently your ability to spew poorly conceived sarcasm far exceeds your ability to perceive it.
There's another way to interpret this as well- Sony has the lead with FF because they're the only ones who have FF MILCs. These are cameras with new technology that are more lightweight (at least, the bodies are) and with EVFs suitable for video shooting. The tech is new, and educated FF buyers seem to want it.
Company A’s position is that they're about to sell FEWER FF ILCs than Company B and C combined.
Have you tried shopping for a D850 in the past 6 months? They've been backordered at all major online retailers (although there are a few 3rd party sellers on Amazon selling them for several hundred dollars over MSRP). Kinda hard to sell cameras if they're not available, 'eh?
If Canon had launched a 6DIII at the beginning of the year, I'd bet real $$$ we'd not have seen Sony announcing a lead in FF ILCs in the US for 1H18.
The 6DII certainly got a bad rap, just like the 6D, but let's not forget that even the 6D was the leading full frame camera in sales on Amazon at one point. Canon even credited their hold on top marketshare in October of 2017 to strong sales of the 6D II, yes, only 3 months after the 6D II was released.So you’re saying that if Canon launched the 6DII now, they would be outselling Sony? That seems quite a dubious claim
Not true - D850 started shipping in September 2017, and were 1st in full frame by December 2017 or 8 months ago. Also, it was the NPB group that made the claim - the same company claiming Sony's achievement now for full frame.Also, quite interesting that Nikon has not been #1 in FF sales in the U.S. in the past year with its D850, since that was a recently released FF camera and by your standards, “newness” is what counts.
Canon did announce their interest in putting emphasis on the mirrorless market in late February 2018. By July of this year Canon claimed top spot in mirrorless for Japan with the m50 - very much in line with their plan to shift to mirrorless. Frankly, if Canon can say "we want to shift emphasis to mirrorless" then be first in mirrorless only 6 months later, that actually speaks pretty highly of their success.And I quote from Nikkei Asian Review, for anyone who missed it:
“Canon will shift more of its focus to mirrorless cameras, a change in strategy spurred by sharp growth in the market. [...]
With mirrorless cameras rapidly gaining popularity and rivals like Sony breaking into SLRs, Canon decided it must ‘actively roll out products for a growth market even if there is some cannibalization,’ Sakata said.”
Sony sold 40% of FF by $ for H1. Canon sold 33%.
It's not a good trend for Canon but, there are a few points worth considering...
Sony and Canon are about the same size. Sony is basically an electronics company while Canon is an imaging company. I am sure that Canon will not just let Sony eat its lunch.
Canon still doesn't have a FF mirrorless in the market. If they had a competitive product, I am sure that they would capture top spot.
Based on Canon's history and the position of FF mirrorless, Canon is probably making sure it gets it right before releasing it's FF mirrorless.
Oh, agreed. But the point remains – Canon, no new FF, Nikon, one unavailable new FF, Sony 2 new FF. Easy to claim victory when no other teams show up at the match. Educated forum members see that for the hollow (local and likely transient) victory that it is.Well, low FF sales numbers due to lack of manufacturing capacity are still low FF sales numbers- it still counts. Or rather, it doesn’t count- for Nikon.
Still, it means that "novelty" sells quite well.Oh, agreed. But the point remains – Canon, no new FF, Nikon, one unavailable new FF, Sony 2 new FF. Easy to claim victory when no other teams show up at the match. Educated forum members see that for the hollow (local and likely transient) victory that it is.
I decided to take a time tunnel approach to Canon, traveled back to Canon's ML age and got two mirrorless Canon 7 bodies plus three original Canon rangefinder lenses. Canon's RF 1.4/50mm lens from early 60s e. g. does not need any upgrade. Great gear for having fun in the street, you simply shoot even without chimping on LCD screens - it's all about imagination. You can have even more fun when you enter a fancy Leica shop with that gear and ask for a fitting lens cap. And the best thing about this gear is: you can't vlog! It protects you from making yourself one of those clowns flooding all channels with their brainless blah blah.I'll be looking closely at the Nikon FF mirrorless options. Canon could take more than another year to bring something to market. It may just be a development announcement in January, which can mean 1 to 2 years before it's in your hands. Canon can be surprisingly slow, in fact some people have been waiting for an update to the 50 f/1.4 for the better part of a decade!