2-3 fps (with AF tracking) is woefully inadequate, people complained about the 5DsR's 5fps, but it was workable most times and was better than the 5D3 for AF IMO. 2fps is great for pelicans in flight I guess or resting pigeons. Even the M6II will be a far superior tool for BIF and action.
“Pro” EOS R camera coming in March 2020? [CR0]
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That's just not true!
It's 5 fps with continuos focus tracking, not 2-3. Believe me, I actually use the camera unlike armchair reviewers on YouTube...
My understanding is that the 1D series is considered "Pro" and the 5D series is considered "Prosumer".
On its own website, Canon positions 5DIV, 1DXII, 5DS and even 6DII as 'professional'. 6DII is also in the enthusiast category. No mirrorless camera is in the professional category yet. R, RP, M6II and M5 are all in the enthusiast category.
I think that 1D and 5D series + EOS R are "Pro" cameras.
1D is the very fast, ultra rugged but heavy pro camera,
5D and EOS R are fast, rugged and reliable pro cameras with less weight.
Two EOS Rs and e.g. 15-30 or 24-70 + 70-200 2.8 might be a very good combo for a press
photograph/journalist (non-sports) because it should have a good balance between speed, IQ
and volume/weight. And there is enough room in a medium large backpack for
a small tripod, some audio equipment, notebook, some clothing, some emergency food
and 1...2 litres of water.
I consider the R useable for pro work in some situations but not as deployable or versatile as the 5 or 1. Just a few too many quirks in button placement and lack of options; more designed from a converted dslr point of view than from the ground up as a completely new type of camera. Even Canon says its more of a 6D segment camera, depending on who you ask (people from CPS for example).
In the last few months I seriously considered getting an R alongside my 5D’s but I know that in the end I’d just sell it somewhere next year when better options will be available. So I’ll wait patiently. Yesterday I attended a CPS event and got to try the new 15-35 and 24-70 and that did feel very good (also took some tests shots on an sd card and the images look very good). It was again said that ‘2020 will be a very interesting year’. And something’s coming Thursday; probably just the announcement of the new 85 and 70-200
In the last few months I seriously considered getting an R alongside my 5D’s but I know that in the end I’d just sell it somewhere next year when better options will be available. So I’ll wait patiently. Yesterday I attended a CPS event and got to try the new 15-35 and 24-70 and that did feel very good (also took some tests shots on an sd card and the images look very good). It was again said that ‘2020 will be a very interesting year’. And something’s coming Thursday; probably just the announcement of the new 85 and 70-200
Not gonna happen.
I believe since Canon yet to master continuous AF in burst mode, they are not gonna release a PRO (1D or 5D equivalent) R body. instead, they probably release a Hi-res version of R (5Dsr equivalent ), with FF M6 sensor (which is a turn off for me personally since DR is pretty meh) and mediocre AF features for 3000 USD. so they can buy more time to master the continuous AF and release more PRO lenses.
I think we can only see the 5D equivalent R body with proper AF and probably 36 or 42 MP in early 2021.
I believe since Canon yet to master continuous AF in burst mode, they are not gonna release a PRO (1D or 5D equivalent) R body. instead, they probably release a Hi-res version of R (5Dsr equivalent ), with FF M6 sensor (which is a turn off for me personally since DR is pretty meh) and mediocre AF features for 3000 USD. so they can buy more time to master the continuous AF and release more PRO lenses.
I think we can only see the 5D equivalent R body with proper AF and probably 36 or 42 MP in early 2021.
I doubt they release 60mpixel high res top model if its their best sensor.
Maybe 60mpixel high resolution enthusiastic hobbyist camera then with one card slot and average weather seal.
The M6 Mark II does 16 fps with AF.
I think they figured it out.
btw, there's nothing wrong with the M6 II's DR.. Even dpreview says Canon has caught up to Sony sensors. and that's dpreview even.
so with 2xdici9 maybe 8fp 80mpix ,sounds good to me
or 10fps 60mpix like sony .. but it doesnt feel like highmegapixel camera if nearly 1dx2 shoot speed
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And to prove how full of crap DPReview are and have been for so long the truth is the M6 II/90D and 80D DR is exactly the same...
I seem to remember that when the 5D first came out, which is when I first bought it, Apple considered it to be an advanced amateur camera, not a Pro model. I suppose that evolved over the years.
The difference between 80D/90D and Sony 7r3/7r4 in APS-C mode is almost nothing too. 0.6 stop at base ISO, and <0.4 for most of the rest of the range. People are still going to claim that half a stop is keeping them from taking good photos, but they've got basically not science to back it up with.
Yep, makes DPReview even more laughable. All this 'way behind' and 'catching up' is just click bate hyperbole. Don't get me wrong, the 5D MkII/III generation of sensors did lag somewhat behind the competition but DR differences haven't been an issue between camera brands when comparing same sized sensors for several years now.
In my opinion, and it's only an opinion, it's the photographer that is professional or enthusiast, not the camera.
Correct. Only for US markets though. That is how Canon US decided to position the 5D series locally They changed the tune in about a year with intent to capture more of the market with the same product and to justify a premium product pricing model.