Not very relevant subject here. Did he use a Canon? Did the photographer set the price? Would you hire a good photographer who is a bad art critic?
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mackguyver said:...and yet he left some orange piece of garbage near the water and a set of stairs(?) on the opposite bank in the photo.starflux said:Oh it is def. a bad photoshop job... see it in the original image... check out the large version at this link and you can easily see the same grass pattern repeated in lower right corner...j0hannes said:I hope the picture you posted is not the original Gursky, because a huge portion of the lower right corner is very obviously clone-stamped.
http://c4gallery.com/artist/database/andreas-gursky/andreas-gursky-the-rhein-II.jpg
ajfotofilmagem said:Some years ago I (do not know why) I took a course named: Research-creative-in-art-technology. The teacher was graduated in fine arts, and had good skills in painting, drawing and art history, but knew nothing of photography or video (art technology?).
She is a fan of Duchamp, which I hate, and in a lesson I said that in my opinion: "Conceptual art is the refuge of the incompetent". She did not like what I said, but survived.
I learned about art history and joked acrylic painting and drawing. At the end of the course, I was photographing the work of colleagues in the exhibition, and the teacher asked my camera (Canon SLR + color negative film + Sigma 24-70mm). Then she asked me: "Where is the zoom?" I looked at her amazed and showed the rubber ring on the lens.
Some years later, my art teacher was arrested for murdering his sister stabbed in the back. I was playing with fire and did not know. Today I say: "Conceptual art is the refuge of the incompetent and crazy".
In fact, my art teacher never seemed violent, but she felt the need to "deconstruct" the aesthetic rules, and she considered that works technically well made, lose their artistic value. She hated photographs with correct focus, following the rule of thirds, proper exposure, and whatever all photographers consider desirable in a photograph. When I showed my photos with multiple exposure (done in-camera) she advised me to do a little something in Photoshop to make it obvious that I'm not Orthodox. :-Xtroy19 said:Now that's a good story. You're a lucky man surviving. Guess her sister repeated what you said about conceptual art and that was too much for her ...ajfotofilmagem said:Some years ago I (do not know why) I took a course named: Research-creative-in-art-technology. The teacher was graduated in fine arts, and had good skills in painting, drawing and art history, but knew nothing of photography or video (art technology?).
She is a fan of Duchamp, which I hate, and in a lesson I said that in my opinion: "Conceptual art is the refuge of the incompetent". She did not like what I said, but survived.
I learned about art history and joked acrylic painting and drawing. At the end of the course, I was photographing the work of colleagues in the exhibition, and the teacher asked my camera (Canon SLR + color negative film + Sigma 24-70mm). Then she asked me: "Where is the zoom?" I looked at her amazed and showed the rubber ring on the lens.
Some years later, my art teacher was arrested for murdering his sister stabbed in the back. I was playing with fire and did not know. Today I say: "Conceptual art is the refuge of the incompetent and crazy".
ajfotofilmagem said:Some years ago I (do not know why) I took a course named: Research-creative-in-art-technology. The teacher was graduated in fine arts, and had good skills in painting, drawing and art history, but knew nothing of photography or video (art technology?).
She is a fan of Duchamp, which I hate, and in a lesson I said that in my opinion: "Conceptual art is the refuge of the incompetent". She did not like what I said, but survived.
I learned about art history and joked acrylic painting and drawing. At the end of the course, I was photographing the work of colleagues in the exhibition, and the teacher asked my camera (Canon SLR + color negative film + Sigma 24-70mm). Then she asked me: "Where is the zoom?" I looked at her amazed and showed the rubber ring on the lens.
Some years later, my art teacher was arrested for murdering his sister stabbed in the back. I was playing with fire and did not know. Today I say: "Conceptual art is the refuge of the incompetent and crazy".
AcutancePhotography said:I guess if the purchaser is happy paying 4 mil for this, so be it. To each his own.
Policar said:... ironic since few of your can shoot 8x10 ...
I could break out the 4X5, some scissors, and some glue and "cut and paste"......anthonyd said:Policar said:... ironic since few of your can shoot 8x10 ...
Hell, I didn't even know what "8x10" was before your post, but I still don't see how that helped him. This photograph is still awful (in my opinion of course).
dawgfanjeff said:Caveat: Art is in the eye of the beholder, it's all subjective.
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Your brother in law probably thinks his "amazing" things are totally banal, derivative junk!anthonyd said:dawgfanjeff said:Caveat: Art is in the eye of the beholder, it's all subjective.
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Actually, I have a personal anecdotal story on this.
When I was in high school I attended drawing classes at a private evening school. In my opinion I suck at drawing and everything I drew was awful. However, my parents kept everything, for some reason.
Years later, my sister married an architect who draws (and designs) amazing things. One day he went through my "paintings" and decided that he liked one of them so much, he put it on his living room wall. At first I thought he's messing with me, but after years and years of the painting remaining on his wall I have come to terms with the fact that we have very different ways of viewing the world.
You don't need a massive camera.... You can take multiple pictures and stitch them together....image sizes have gone over 100 gigapixels....dawgfanjeff said:However, I could go to the same place and take a picture 98% as good on any given cloudy day. I don't have an 8x10 camera, so I couldn't print it as nicely large, but is that what comprises art?
Policar said:I do think he's an unmistakable genius at what he does and that if you're not seeing it, the problem isn't with him.
thepancakeman said:Policar said:I do think he's an unmistakable genius at what he does and that if you're not seeing it, the problem isn't with him.
So if some no name took this picture, you would recognize the "unmistakable genius" in it? I don't believe that in the least.
When I hear the phrase "unmistakable genius" I think of Beethoven, Mozart, or Jimi Hendrix, they cause chills in those who hear their works. In visual arts, I think of Michelangelo or Leonardo da Vinci, who let their spectators speechless. In photography, a technically perfect performance is not enough to be "unmistakable genius." It is essential that a subject interest and hold the attention of the viewer. Thus, some of the most important photographs of humanity are NOT technically clean, but your content is impressive and makes you think. I'll add a little known photographer that I consider great.thepancakeman said:So if some no name took this picture, you would recognize the "unmistakable genius" in it? I don't believe that in the least.Policar said:I do think he's an unmistakable genius at what he does and that if you're not seeing it, the problem isn't with him.
Just recently there was some "famous" artist (sorry, don't remember the name) who's paintings sell for big bucks set up shop in central park and was selling his stuff for $50, and as I recall, only sold a single piece. Without some art curator telling them it was so amazing and worth a fortune, no one cared.
Jeffbridge said:What makes this photograph worth $4,338,500 (other than the obvious fact someone was prepared to pay that amount for it)?