It's called the Sonyami, and it's been going on for the many years that I've been lurking on these forums. Or so I've read...But, but, what about the Sony Tsunami?
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It's called the Sonyami, and it's been going on for the many years that I've been lurking on these forums. Or so I've read...But, but, what about the Sony Tsunami?
Sony has really moved up in the last 20 Years. They used to be under 4% of sales.
All that matters is that Sony got Canon to take FF mirrorless seriously and not rely solely on FF DSLR’s. We’ll have to wait and see what mirrorless cameras Canon can deliver this year.I"m not sure what stats you're pulling from but as far back as I can google had Sony around 12-18% of global sales when they just had the A-mount. that was around 2006-8, they took over minolta in 2005.
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well i did find a source that states they were around 6% at 2006 which really was the year after they took over from minolta, not sure that really counts for much
2008 they were at 12%
ah .. found what i was looking for. not exactly your point, but a possibly more relevant one.
2009 Pre-mirrorless (the year before), Sony was sitting at 13%
as of 2018, Sony was sitting at around 13.3% overall markethshare globally.
They have grown this past year, but really it's just been this last year that they have exceeded their 2009 marketshare %.
I'm not exactly sure they really had this amazing growth in any case really - if they did it happened between 2006 and 2008.
All that matters is that Sony got Canon to take FF mirrorless seriously and not rely solely on FF DSLR’s. We’ll have to wait and see what mirrorless cameras Canon can deliver this year.
What Sony has had is remarkable equipment development and introduction into the marketplace. A 'cycle' intro time that Canon, Nikon, and manufacturers "can't" compete with. I say can't, but some of it is that the others prefer to keep their product reputation (and/or perception of) high or at least level. Sony on the other hand, seems to 'fast-track' stuff, whether all the bugs are worked out before it's released or not. (I know, Canon, Nikon, and others have also released stuff that firmware updates have had to fix various issues...) Or perhaps, I shouldn't use the term "bugs" vs. more mature products: Sony has done far better with the A7 III and now the Mk IV than with their previous intro's as far as having what many see and attest to being more mature (I should add the A9 and A9 Mk II here also).I"m not sure what stats you're pulling from but as far back as I can google had Sony around 12-18% of global sales when they just had the A-mount. that was around 2006-8, they took over minolta in 2005.
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well i did find a source that states they were around 6% at 2006 which really was the year after they took over from minolta, not sure that really counts for much
2008 they were at 12%
ah .. found what i was looking for. not exactly your point, but a possibly more relevant one.
2009 Pre-mirrorless (the year before), Sony was sitting at 13%
as of 2018, Sony was sitting at around 13.3% overall markethshare globally.
They have grown this past year, but really it's just been this last year that they have exceeded their 2009 marketshare %.
I'm not exactly sure they really had this amazing growth in any case really - if they did it happened between 2006 and 2008.
... I'm not exactly sure they really had this amazing growth in any case really - if they did it happened between 2006 and 2008.
One wouldn't have known this based on all the misleading pro-Sony headlines implying tremendous Sony growth and domination, some sad examples (I avoid these sites unless I accidentally click on them in the news headlines):
Side note.. i've always been amused to hear fans (especially sony it seems) brag about how much profit sony makes from their cameras (none of it provable)
I mean, you're basically bragging that Sony gouged you by charging you more than they should have.
That's called "conspicuous consumption".I mean, you're basically bragging that Sony gouged you by charging you more than they should have.
I doubt Sony did. It was a logical progression from Canon. I suspect it was more in response to Nikon and the Z lineup.All that matters is that Sony got Canon to take FF mirrorless seriously and not rely solely on FF DSLR’s. We’ll have to wait and see what mirrorless cameras Canon can deliver this year.
I was talking about FF mirrorless though, not Canon’s consumer aps-c cameras. The fact remains, Canon had been loosing videographers/photographers (not event/sports though) to the mirrorless competition and the success of the A7 line surely must have pushed Canon into FF mirrorless sooner as they seemed quite content to dominate with DSLR’S for a long time whilst people, especially on this site, were crying out for a FF mirrorless. Surely you can not deny this had an impact.I doubt Sony did. It was a logical progression from Canon. I suspect it was more in response to Nikon and the Z lineup.
I mean they started working on mirrorless in 2010.. came out with the M's in 2012. and came out with full frame, only after, they managed to move their full frame assembly down to 300nm and produce DPAF. After Canon came out with the 1DX,5D and 6D with DPAF sensors, it was obvious that mirrorless was the logical next step.
while sony is interesting, let's be real - they had a 13% marketshare or less when Canon started working on full frame mirrorless.
I think Sigma is a victim of their own success. The people who wanted their lenses already have them.Thanks @canonnews.
One thing I did find interesting is that after being #2 in lenses for the past three years, Sigma fell off the radar this year. I'm guessing a couple of reasons could be that they really didn't release any blockbusters this year (the 60-600mm not generating the excitement of the earlier superzooms) and the new mounts by Canon and Nikon may have limited their sales.
It's too bad they don't distinguish between crop and full frame (at least it doesn't appear to me that they do). I would imagine that Canon's crop sensor mirrorless accounts for a high percentage of total mirrorless sales (just as crop sensors account for the bulk of DSLR sales).
All in all, good on Canon.