Bingo! New Canon 5Ds has 50.6 MP new rumored specs

[3kramd5]

CF card is a pro feature you say.

You have to admire these marketing people - how do they manage to make cf appear "pro" and a swivel screen or pop-up flash "amateur"? With these markers, they don't even need to legitimize why a certain product costs xyz €/$ because every customer immediately sees how "pro" it is, i.e. how much worth it has to have.

The crazy thing is, they don't even have to do anything. The customers themselves arbitrarily decide that certain features are not "pro." Look at the negative comments that get generated anytime someone suggests that a $3,000 camera ought to be at least as functional and connected as a cell phone – ability to navigate menus by touch screen, connectivity to the internet, basic photo editing functions – all things that would make life easily and offer more options for professionals, but whenever someone suggests that on this site, you get comment after comment from users who refuse to evolve.

I'm all for value-added software features (basic editing, for example), provided they don't bog down the system or otherwise impede my usage (Lightroom seemed to get noticeably slower when they added things like the Book module, but it may have been a coincidence).

I don't mind features like GPS, but I have no need for them and therefore no desire to pay for them, and since I would (were they included), I prefer they be left off

 

[bescki]

Does this have:
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I hope it will have WIFI and Touch Screen

 

[Arkarch]

For my purposes, a pop-up flash would be a waste... most of my lenses would cast shadows either because of barrel size or length. I do want to add a fill flash to my kit - probably a 400-series; but it needs to be an outboard flash with some distance from the lens.

Tilt screen - seems like that would be challenging to weatherproof; plus one more thing to break. Wifi or any other radio device also gets compromised by faraday cage effects of a metal body.

What I really care about with the 5DS / R is IQ, DR, and Resolution. The ability to print a 30" at 300 DPI with better color fidelity and better DR is exactly what I need. I'll carry a second camera for everything else - I do anyway as backup in the field - things do break.

From that point of view - I see the 5DS for those who already have a general purpose camera. It is a specialist rig - a second camera. Mix it with a 5D3 or 1DX.

 

[Woody]

I will be keen on EOS M3 if it has DPAF. I don't care about dynamic range at low ISO for this camera. Only my primary camera needs it, the M3 is my back-up.

Also keen on 50 f/1.4 ring-USM update.

 

[privatebydesign]

Tilt screen - seems like that would be challenging to weatherproof; plus one more thing to break. Wifi or any other radio device also gets compromised by faraday cage effects of a metal body.

Those are rediculous ideas. There is no difficulty in weatherproofing, or even waterproofing, a swivel screen, Olympus have done it with a P&S. And we are well past the age of not understanding radio, EyeFi cards work perfectly in 1 series all metal bodies, you could put the antenna in the card door with a 100% metal body and still get interference free results.

 

[Arkarch]

Tilt screen - seems like that would be challenging to weatherproof; plus one more thing to break. Wifi or any other radio device also gets compromised by faraday cage effects of a metal body.

Those are rediculous ideas. There is no difficulty in weatherproofing, or even waterproofing, a swivel screen, Olympus have done it with a P&S. And we are well past the age of not understanding radio, EyeFi cards work perfectly in 1 series all metal bodies, you could put the antenna in the card door with a 100% metal body and still get interference free results.

The door would be a good spot,, I agree. its generally clear.

So why not MiFi cellular? It would be much easier to mark and upload images direct to your personal or clients server. That seems a better use case than WiFi when I am in the middle of the desert. Yes, I have done Eye-Fi to MiFi to Server for "live" event posting.

While I too could use a tilt, I am still dubious about having it. I know how well I manage to break things - broke another remote shutter able this past trip - could just be me.

 

[steven kessel]

I've about decided to buy this camera, depending on its price. North of $4000 and I will quickly lose interest.

That said, I still have a few questions. First, how will the crop format work? Is the camera going to utilize just a reduced portion of the sensor? If so, well, then I'd probably prefer to do my cropping in Photoshop. Second, is the fps burst speed going to be linked to the format? Will it increase when a crop format is used (as is the case with the Nikon D810) or will it always max at 5 fps?

I have a couple of 5Diiis that are a long way from retirement and they will still be my go-to cameras for birds in flight and for long telephoto work. I envision the 5Ds as being ideal for landscapes and for closeup photography. Probably 50% of what I do involves closeups, using a 180mm Macro lens, so this camera ought to be a real workhorse for me.

Depending on price, that is.

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I'd love to have a pop up flash on my 5D because it would be useful and I wouldn't have to carry my mini flash.

But the posers can't have that because then they won't look like real pros as they wander about.

 

[PureClassA]

I'd love to have a pop up flash on my 5D because it would be useful and I wouldn't have to carry my mini flash.

But the posers can't have that because then they won't look like real pros as they wander about.

Eh...pop ups are mostly useless. But how about putting a pop up on there that does nothing more than blast a low power wide strobe to trigger slaves? I'd love that!

 

[benperrin]

I'd love to have a pop up flash on my 5D because it would be useful and I wouldn't have to carry my mini flash.

But the posers can't have that because then they won't look like real pros as they wander about.

The pop up flash is pure garbage. An on camera small light source is always a bad idea even as an optical flash trigger. There is no point in including this on a professional camera. It has nothing to do with looks. I'd rather them use that space for something I might actually use.

 

[3kramd5]

And we are well past the age of not understanding radio

Tell that to Apple circa 2010

 

[Lee Jay]

I'd love to have a pop up flash on my 5D because it would be useful and I wouldn't have to carry my mini flash.

But the posers can't have that because then they won't look like real pros as they wander about.

The pop up flash is pure garbage. An on camera small light source is always a bad idea even as an optical flash trigger. There is no point in including this on a professional camera. It has nothing to do with looks. I'd rather them use that space for something I might actually use.

You're just wrong. What makes you think I'm taking flash dominated exposures of people up close? I'm often using it for fill, and only occasionally of people. I had to buy a little hot shoe mounted flash to replace the missing popup. If I always carried a 580 I'd have to leave something behind that I want to carry, probably my 35/1.4L.

 

[vjlex]

Honestly, popup flash is one of the things I have missed the most since jumping from crop to FF. If it's not useful for you- fine. But even a popup flash is useful in some situations where I don't want to haul my 580EX and batteries for it along. There's really no good reason not to include a popup flash (I don't buy the weather-sealing excuse; I used to trek through lots of different terrain with a Rebel XTi and popup flash and never had problems). It's not like having one means you're FORCED to use it for every shot.

Regarding CF cards, I like the format. I don't particularly want Canon to dump the format. While I don't buy new CF cards anymore though, I have been buying inexpensive, large capacity SD and micro-SD cards which I put in a CF adapter. I bought one adapter that holds 2 micro-SD cards and another one that holds a regular size SD. So now I have 2 128 Gb "CF cards" I can use in my camera. They record video fine, and they didn't even come close to breaking the bank.

 

[benperrin]

You're just wrong. What makes you think I'm taking flash dominated exposures of people up close? I'm often using it for fill, and only occasionally of people. I had to buy a little hot shoe mounted flash to replace the missing popup. If I always carried a 580 I'd have to leave something behind that I want to carry, probably my 35/1.4L.

Even for fill it is terrible. Use a reflector or modified flash off camera and the results are a lot better. Small light source in relation to the subject = harsh ugly light. Keep that light source on camera and the results are worse. Also I didn't make any assumptions as to what type of images people are taking. Sorry, but it's just not a professional feature.

 

[raptor3x]

Tilt screen - seems like that would be challenging to weatherproof; plus one more thing to break. Wifi or any other radio device also gets compromised by faraday cage effects of a metal body.

Those are rediculous ideas. There is no difficulty in weatherproofing, or even waterproofing, a swivel screen, Olympus have done it with a P&S. And we are well past the age of not understanding radio, EyeFi cards work perfectly in 1 series all metal bodies, you could put the antenna in the card door with a 100% metal body and still get interference free results.

1 series memory card doors are made of plastic.

EDIT: Actually I take that back, both my 1Ds3 and 1DX have a really smooth paint on the inside of the memory card door that makes it feel plasticky but they're cold to the touch so they're probably metal.

 

[jcfalconer]

What is "iTR AF"?

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I'd love to have a pop up flash on my 5D because it would be useful and I wouldn't have to carry my mini flash.

But the posers can't have that because then they won't look like real pros as they wander about.

Eh...pop ups are mostly useless. But how about putting a pop up on there that does nothing more than blast a low power wide strobe to trigger slaves? I'd love that!

they are great for a little fill when the need pops up totally unexpectedly or for a little fill on some snapshots with friends or what not

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

I'd love to have a pop up flash on my 5D because it would be useful and I wouldn't have to carry my mini flash.

But the posers can't have that because then they won't look like real pros as they wander about.

The pop up flash is pure garbage. An on camera small light source is always a bad idea even as an optical flash trigger. There is no point in including this on a professional camera. It has nothing to do with looks. I'd rather them use that space for something I might actually use.

oh really?

and suppose something unexpected happens and you are close but have no flash and they need a shot and there is terrible back lighting?

it's happened to me and others and it was interesting to see all the pros asking to borrow the xxD people had for the shot and tossing their 1D's to the side

or maybe you are on a trip and mostly taking landscapes but then want a few shots with friends now and then and don't wanna be dragging a flash along, just one more thing to be a menace and a drag

 

[LetTheRightLensIn]

You're just wrong. What makes you think I'm taking flash dominated exposures of people up close? I'm often using it for fill, and only occasionally of people. I had to buy a little hot shoe mounted flash to replace the missing popup. If I always carried a 580 I'd have to leave something behind that I want to carry, probably my 35/1.4L.

Even for fill it is terrible. Use a reflector or modified flash off camera and the results are a lot better. Small light source in relation to the subject = harsh ugly light. Keep that light source on camera and the results are worse. Also I didn't make any assumptions as to what type of images people are taking. Sorry, but it's just not a professional feature.

great if you happen to run around EVERYWHERE, ALL THE TIME, with a reflector

maybe you are coming back at night and suddenly a tree frog pops out?

maybe the Stanley Cup came for a secret visit without prior announcement and they want one pick and everyone is backlit and it has to be taken in that direction and you were not on call but happened to just have your camera with you but no flash and nobody else was close enough to make it in time? I was sure glad I was still using an xxD camera then and, for the record, so was the other guy who showed up and tossed his 1D aside and used my xxD for his shot too. He didn't thumb his nose at the xxD and get all snooty and ridiculous, he was just like awesome, this is great, gotta love the pop-up, all cameras should have this.

etc.

 

[Lee Jay]

You're just wrong. What makes you think I'm taking flash dominated exposures of people up close? I'm often using it for fill, and only occasionally of people. I had to buy a little hot shoe mounted flash to replace the missing popup. If I always carried a 580 I'd have to leave something behind that I want to carry, probably my 35/1.4L.

Even for fill it is terrible. Use a reflector or modified flash off camera and the results are a lot better. Small light source in relation to the subject = harsh ugly light. Keep that light source on camera and the results are worse. Also I didn't make any assumptions as to what type of images people are taking. Sorry, but it's just not a professional feature.

You think it's worse than nothing?

Obviously off camera flash is often better (not always, by the way, or ring flashes wouldn't sell). But the usual other option is no flash at all. When I'm traveling or in a highly portable mode (no umbrellas, no external flashes) I'd rather have something than nothing. I was recently in a cave and used my little micro flash for fill in a crevasse that had no light at all. An off camera flash wasn't available and probably wouldn't have worked anyway because it would have been too far from the lens.