Canon #1 in Japanese market share for both DSLR and mirrorless in 2018
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But but, Canon is doomed? Sony is taking over.
Who knew Ricoh made DSLRs?
Who knew Ricoh made DSLRs?
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they sell used underwear in japan too.... just saying. 
unfortunately canon has released nothing in 2018 that would make me part from my money.
i had hopes for a new M5, new EOS M lenses that make the M mount look like an option.
i had hopes for a better EOS R camera.
the next camera is rumored to be an even lower end mirrorless model.
seems like 2019 may be another year i can keep my money.
unfortunately canon has released nothing in 2018 that would make me part from my money.
i had hopes for a new M5, new EOS M lenses that make the M mount look like an option.
i had hopes for a better EOS R camera.
the next camera is rumored to be an even lower end mirrorless model.
seems like 2019 may be another year i can keep my money.
Imagine what they could do if they had Sony sensors. Oh hold on, everyone should buy Canon because of the lenses and the colors, right? Thankfully we have Sony, Fuji and Nikon as competitors so we have some technical innovation, maybe this is the year Canon surprise us with some great cameras. Let's be honest, the 7dII was disappointing, the 5d iv was disappointing compared to the D850, the EOS R is generally thought to be worse than the Z6. I know the Canon cameras are good enough, but we'd alll like to see Canon take a lead for a change.
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they sell used underwear in japan too.... just saying.
unfortunately canon has released nothing in 2018 that would make me part from my money.
i had hopes for a new M5, new EOS M lenses that make the M mount look like an option.
i had hopes for a better EOS R camera.
the next camera is rumored to be an even lower end mirrorless model.
seems like 2019 may be another year i can keep my money.
unfortunately canon has released nothing in 2018 that would make me part from my money.
i had hopes for a new M5, new EOS M lenses that make the M mount look like an option.
i had hopes for a better EOS R camera.
the next camera is rumored to be an even lower end mirrorless model.
seems like 2019 may be another year i can keep my money.
You seem to be happily pessimestic. Keep wearing that downer hat.
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The Canon sensors are slightly behind, but not by much. If you shoot for 4color, instead of pixel peeping on a monitor, there’s no practical difference. The rest of what you’re saying is exaggerated.
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Absolutely. Did you know know that sale of FF MILCs is the only thing that matters when measuring the success of camera manufacturers? That is, until Canon overtake that as well. Then the only valid measure will be FF MILC shooting 4k @60fps for 25 minutes at a temperature of 54F with no overheating in 3 out of 5 cases.
All joking aside, what Canon has done is really impressive.
#1 in ILCs. Sure, down a bit, but still dominating. Also, it wasn't too long ago that the gap between Nikon/Canon was much smaller. So, this is really Nikon re-establishing themselves and a year Canon did not release any DSLRs of significance (just entry level DSLRs, M50 and EOS-R). Seriously, wow.
#1 in Mirrorless. After all the negativity, Canon is #1 in mirrorless sales. Again, wow.
#1 in lenses. A bit expected. Sell the most ILCs, sell the most lenses.
#2 in Digital Cameras. A very close second to Nikon with Sony a distant 3rd.
That is domination. Release a few new G series cameras, and maybe they are #1 in all categories for 2019.
I personally do not benefit from Canon's domination in the short term. But, as someone invested in a system, I have every reason to think Canon will be around for many years to come.
#1 in ILCs. Sure, down a bit, but still dominating. Also, it wasn't too long ago that the gap between Nikon/Canon was much smaller. So, this is really Nikon re-establishing themselves and a year Canon did not release any DSLRs of significance (just entry level DSLRs, M50 and EOS-R). Seriously, wow.
#1 in Mirrorless. After all the negativity, Canon is #1 in mirrorless sales. Again, wow.
#1 in lenses. A bit expected. Sell the most ILCs, sell the most lenses.
#2 in Digital Cameras. A very close second to Nikon with Sony a distant 3rd.
That is domination. Release a few new G series cameras, and maybe they are #1 in all categories for 2019.
I personally do not benefit from Canon's domination in the short term. But, as someone invested in a system, I have every reason to think Canon will be around for many years to come.
You are comparing an older 5D IV to a newer D850?
If that's the case, we should compared Sony A7 to EOS R according to your logic. I wouldn't use it even it's for free.
There is a different in sensor but not my much. Good photographer are capable of making great pictures with less with Canon 6D, etc. I enjoy usability more than sensor performance like EVF, ergonomic, eyeAF, fully touch screen LCD. I don't need to raise my pictures 5 stop either.
We have off camera lighting for high dynamic range scene or luminosity mask. High dynamic range shadow recovery is noiser than luminosity mask.
I just wish Canon have better eyeAF, dual IS, and dual card slot.
If that's the case, we should compared Sony A7 to EOS R according to your logic. I wouldn't use it even it's for free.
There is a different in sensor but not my much. Good photographer are capable of making great pictures with less with Canon 6D, etc. I enjoy usability more than sensor performance like EVF, ergonomic, eyeAF, fully touch screen LCD. I don't need to raise my pictures 5 stop either.
We have off camera lighting for high dynamic range scene or luminosity mask. High dynamic range shadow recovery is noiser than luminosity mask.
I just wish Canon have better eyeAF, dual IS, and dual card slot.
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I, personally, would really appreciate it if CR would stop noting that Canon is not in fact already dead/dying. The "mirrorless Sony and Nikon are the future and nothing else counts as innovation" narrative has presented a tremendous opportunity for me to build my EF collection, and this "truth" and "data" are really hampering my opportunities.
I hope it isn't necessary, but I'll add a "/s" just in case.
I hope it isn't necessary, but I'll add a "/s" just in case.
Why!? Their employer is Amazon, and they are happy with sales, no matter of which brand. However, Canon's success has done nothing to revert the abysmal trend of the camera market (and neither has any other company), so this still remains a pyrrhic victory for them.
Also, it bears repeating: the Japanese market is very special in its preferences. It gravitates strongly towards mirrorless cameras, and entry-level ones at that. It's 100% price-sensitive, unlike the US or Europe, where more expensive mirrorless models have fared better than dirt-cheap shovelware.
Also, it bears repeating: the Japanese market is very special in its preferences. It gravitates strongly towards mirrorless cameras, and entry-level ones at that. It's 100% price-sensitive, unlike the US or Europe, where more expensive mirrorless models have fared better than dirt-cheap shovelware.