I wouldn't expect much discounting on the EOS R this soon but if I was in the market for a 5D iv right now, based on what Canon did last yr., I'd probably wait a few weeks for Black Friday promos. Last yr's promo introduced aggressively lower prices and a free grip thrown in to boot. Will be interesting to see what Canon does this yr across all their lines starting on Black Friday. Now, if I just had a pocket full of money!