Canon EOS-1D X Mark III Summary

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That's his point. Why didn't Canon find a way to do this (ie using a semi-transparent mirror) instead of just adding more old tech focus points? A) because this wasn't their priority.
Strategy: Launch a beefed up old tech camera (with cripple-ware) today, then launch a new tech camera (probably still with cripple-ware) a year later and ask the pros to all buy again.
Cripple ware....
 
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Many more AF points to choose from, great. What about selecting a players eye and track that eye in AI SERVO tru OVF? Haha, this AF system is so 2015. We are in 2020, unfortunately Canon is not..

It will take years for Canon to launch a mirrorless pro body, I might switch to sony too.. :(
So do Sony pay you or do you behave like this in order to try and get them to like you?
 
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Canon realizes they are alienating a portion of their client base. The transition to mirrorless is being forced not accommodated.

However, with the full cost of new bodies and new glass.... they played this game wrong.

If Nikon or SONY can accommodate those who feel disenfranchised with viable options then they will get entre shops that have been Canon Shops for many years. If you have to buy new bodies and new glass anyway.... why not go with the equipment that meets your needs as a photographer.

Nikon & SONY have HUGE opportunities here to make the sidelines of the games go less "big white".

Nikon should delay the D6 and be disruptive and grab market share by simply providing 14-16 fps at 24 to 30MP. Then they should offer discounts to Canon Pro's who sell their kits to move over. They could be getting 3-4 solid generations of Canon's client base from the agencies, teams, leagues, studios, and magazines. No one is going to buy a 1DXMKIII with crippled technology. They will look to other options and continue with their current equipment.

I predict that Canon is going to have a lof returns. People might try the MKIII for the heck of it.... But refurbished MKIII's will abound.... The first thing still photographers will look for is a substantial difference in IQ. At 20MP's they won't see it and they get a $6500 refund plus tax.

Then the waiting begins.....
 
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Canon realizes they are alienating a portion of their client base. The transition to mirrorless is being forced not accommodated.

However, with the full cost of new bodies and new glass.... they played this game wrong.

If Nikon or SONY can accommodate those who feel disenfranchised with viable options then they will get entre to shops that have been Cano Shops for many years. If you have to buy new bodies and new glass anyway.... why not go with the equipment that meets your needs as a photographer.

Nikon & SONY have HUGE opportunities here to make the sidelines of the games go less "big white".

Nikon should delay the D6 and be disruptive and grab market share by simply providing 14-16 fps at 24 to 30MP. Then they should offer discounts to Canon Pro's who sell their kits to move over. They could be getting 3-4 solid generations of Canon's client base from the agencies, teams, leagues, studios, and magazines. No one is going to buy a 1DXMKIII with crippled technology.

Meh, I am not buying a Nikon. They have their own issues. I don't think the camera is crippled. I just dislike their decision on resolution, but I suspect it was based off of measured decisions and not due to tech issues or crippling the camera. Overall is sounds like an excellent upgrade. It could have been perfect (for me).

I love my 5d4 but objectively the D850 was / is a better camera. It didn't move the needle for Nikon. Their D5 probably won't either.
 
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Canon realizes they are alienating a portion of their client base. The transition to mirrorless is being forced not accommodated.

However, with the full cost of new bodies and new glass.... they played this game wrong.

If Nikon or SONY can accommodate those who feel disenfranchised with viable options then they will get entre shops that have been Canon Shops for many years. If you have to buy new bodies and new glass anyway.... why not go with the equipment that meets your needs as a photographer.

Nikon & SONY have HUGE opportunities here to make the sidelines of the games go less "big white".

Nikon should delay the D6 and be disruptive and grab market share by simply providing 14-16 fps at 24 to 30MP. Then they should offer discounts to Canon Pro's who sell their kits to move over. They could be getting 3-4 solid generations of Canon's client base from the agencies, teams, leagues, studios, and magazines. No one is going to buy a 1DXMKIII with crippled technology. They will look to other options and continue with their current equipment.

I predict that Canon is going to have a lof returns. People might try the MKIII for the heck of it.... But refurbished MKIII's will abound.... The first thing still photographers will look for is a substantial difference in IQ. At 20MP's they won't see it and they get a $6500 refund plus tax.

Then the waiting begins.....
It's funny then that Nikon's D6 will also be 20Mpixel...
 
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R&D budgets:
Sony = absolutely colossal, funded by their $Zillion mobile phone camera division
Canon = large, partially funded by their other imaging and office product divisions
Nikon = small, Nikon are more of a specialist photography company. Cameras used to be mechanical, times have changed.

Unless they can access the best Sony sensor tech, I don't think Nikon can compete.
 
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I'm not sure the 1 series accounts for much of their market share tbh. As for lighter means better with superteles, I think that's a matter of taste. I've seen plenty of people saying the 1 series bodies balance well with them. They may still do with a lighter body, but it may not be better for everyone.
I don't know any photographers who shoot handholding with super telephotos that would not applaud losing almost 2 lbs of camera weight. I shoot BIF with a 1DX2 and a Canon 600mm f4 lll. Doable but a work-out!

With its lower pricing, performance and features, the A92 is taking a share of the enthusiast as well as pro shooters. I just hope the 1DX3 offers superior AF. We will see soon.
 
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People please, STOP BS-ing about 4k. If you are a filmmaker you can buy a 4k camera for half the price. For us photographers this camera is an insult. Nothing changed compared to the mark II. First specs are 100% equal. 20mp / 16fps / WTF?? What is Canon thinking? Hellooo Japan!! Are you ok?? 6,5k for same specs???
Can you stop this non sensual drivel about how evil Canon empire betrayed you? Thank you.
I also request you stop speaking on behalf of photographers. As in “Us”.
Answer this simple question please:
Have you had a chance to shoot with 1Dx III yet? If no, them please refrain from commenting on a subject you have no idea about. Thank you.
Canon cameras are more than their specs. Sony camera’s are less than their specs. Hence pause for the moment and come back when you have a solid data or real experience to share with forum.
 
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I don't know any photographers who shoot handholding with super telephotos that would not applaud losing almost 2 lbs of camera weight. I shoot BIF with a 1DX2 and a Canon 600mm f4 lll. Doable but a work-out!

With its lower pricing, performance and features, the A92 is taking a share of the enthusiast as well as pro shooters. I just hope the 1DX3 offers superior AF. We will see soon.
Isn't the combination unbalanced if there is a small camera behind?

But there are more interesting things to ask you:

Your impressions on the 600 III !!!!

Have you used it with a high density pixel body like 7DII, 90D, 5DsR

Have you tried 2XIII with it? The reports are that it is worse than 600 II + 2XIII ( and similarly with 1.4XIII)

I do not believe I will afford it but I have the 500II so no complaints.

I do not have 1DxII. I used 7DII with it and now 5DsR.
 
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I was about to suggest that same theory, but it feels way too cynical for Canon. Then again, looking at what the 32MP M6II can do with a Digic 8, an 26MP R1 could easily do 20fps.
i said this on facebook and they got mad at me. why go all out in a dslr if the r system is going to be the successor.
 
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viewing larger and ping are the same thing.
Regards cropping, you are talking about an ability to crop the image 10% either way. That will make a difference to an editor in an amazingly small number of requirements. And if they are 'cropping the hell' out of images, that 10% of the full frame will pale into insignificance.
And as for printing, I doubt a majority of magazine articles are printed at anything like 300 dpi. And any professional I have spoken to has said that if the image in itself is good enough, such small differences (detail, noise etc) are almost meaningless.

You don't talk to a lot of professionals in publishing.
 
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Cropping is so minimal as to be negligible unless you are doing huge crops then you obviously are using the wrong piece of equipment for the job, need a longer lens.

Editors aren't photographers, graphic designers aren't photographers, and layout people aren't photographers --- but all of these people determine how an image is used, and sometimes it's radically differently than the way a photographer saw + captured the scene.
 
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I don't know any photographers who shoot handholding with super telephotos that would not applaud losing almost 2 lbs of camera weight. I shoot BIF with a 1DX2 and a Canon 600mm f4 lll. Doable but a work-out!

With its lower pricing, performance and features, the A92 is taking a share of the enthusiast as well as pro shooters. I just hope the 1DX3 offers superior AF. We will see soon.
I hand hold with a 1DXMKII and a 2.8 400mm and 300mm ii,s but I've never done that with a 600. You must be in great shape. However, I do always have another 1DXMKII with a 2.8 70-200 II always over my shoulder's with a 24-70 in my vest with batteries and cards. But I've NEVER hand held with a 600, 800 or 200-400 I must tip my hat to you sir
 
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I hand hold with a 1DXMKII and a 2.8 400mm and 300mm ii,s but I've never done that with a 600. You must be in great shape. However, I do always have another 1DXMKII with a 2.8 70-200 II always over my shoulder's with a 24-70 in my vest with batteries and cards. But I've NEVER hand held with a 600, 800 or 200-400 I must tip my hat to you sir

If you can handhold 1DX2s with the 400mm II, then the 600 III shouldn't be a problem, given that the 600 III is 800g (1.75 pounds) lighter than the 400 II, and the center of gravity is probably further back than the 400 II as well.
 
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Isn't the combination unbalanced if there is a small camera behind?

But there are more interesting things to ask you:

Your impressions on the 600 III !!!!

Have you used it with a high density pixel body like 7DII, 90D, 5DsR

Have you tried 2XIII with it? The reports are that it is worse than 600 II + 2XIII ( and similarly with 1.4XIII)

I do not believe I will afford it but I have the 500II so no complaints.

I do not have 1DxII. I used 7DII with it and now 5DsR.
The 600 lll is extremely sharp and very fast focusing on the 1DX2. The lighter weight of the 600 lll makes tracking BIF more precise and the 5-stop IS is great. With only 20 MP, I almost always shoot BIF with a 1.4x lll or 2X lll. The combos are capable of producing very sharp images.

The 600 lll performs well on my 7D2 but as you know, that camera requires good light and it lacks the battery power to drive the large servos as quickly as the 1Dx2.

The 5DSR is my go to camera for perched birds. The 50 MP files render fine detail that blows the 1DX2 away. Wonderful camera. But the AF of the 5DSR is borrowed from the 5D3 and is not Canon's best option for BIF.
 
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I hand hold with a 1DXMKII and a 2.8 400mm and 300mm ii,s but I've never done that with a 600. You must be in great shape. However, I do always have another 1DXMKII with a 2.8 70-200 II always over my shoulder's with a 24-70 in my vest with batteries and cards. But I've NEVER hand held with a 600, 800 or 200-400 I must tip my hat to you sir
It was a 600 mk III lens mentioned though. Which is around 3.1kg in use.
400/2.8 II is around 4.1kg in use (lens hood, tripod mount).

None of these are advisable to hand hold for a prolonged period of time though.
 
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I hand hold with a 1DXMKII and a 2.8 400mm and 300mm ii,s but I've never done that with a 600. You must be in great shape. However, I do always have another 1DXMKII with a 2.8 70-200 II always over my shoulder's with a 24-70 in my vest with batteries and cards. But I've NEVER hand held with a 600, 800 or 200-400 I must tip my hat to you sir
Bah! I handhold my 600 all the time. It's easy as...……..No harder than holding the same lens when it is at 150. ;)
 
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