Canon to announce at least 6 new RF lenses next week

CanonFanBoy

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I could be wrong. We’ll find out soon. But it’s interesting that the 85mm f/1.2 is the only RF lens that has what looks like a built-in adapter on it.
Totally wrong. If it were at all possible mathematically, you'd be 1000% wrong. Fortunately, the worst you can be is 100% wrong, and that's where the idea is sitting on the wrong meter. But that's okay. Facts get made up here all the time. So do conspiracies. :ROFLMAO:
 
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kaptainkatsu

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The 24-70 RF IS really intrigues me along with the 15-35. These lenses would make me go buy an R despite its shortcomings (I evaluated the EOS R through CPS). My 70-200 2.8 can live on my 1DX2 and the 24-70 on the R.
 
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eninja

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Just seems odd that Canon are producing pro grade L RF lenses but their next R body will be a prosumer body. It’s not like there are any decent f1.8/f2.8 primes to use with the prosumer body. Canon need to release the pro R body if they want to do these lenses justice.
Enthusiast will be force to buy the current R body now. More money for Canon, more R body on peoples hand. Better for Canon.
 

PGSanta

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Enthusiast will be force to buy the current R body now. More money for Canon, more R body on peoples hand. Better for Canon.
Everyone keeps ignoring the secondary market. Tons of EF glass for prosumers to match up with a low tier R available significantly cheaper than new versions.

Canon is doing this right. They are building the foundation before offering something for pros.
 

neuroanatomist

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Let’s hope it’s shorter than that. 173mm = 6.8 inches. The EF version is 7.8 inches
It’ll be 20mm shorter. ‘Lens patents’ are actually optical formula patents, so the patent length includes the distance between the mount and the sensor.
 

jdavidse

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It’ll be 20mm shorter. ‘Lens patents’ are actually optical formula patents, so the patent length includes the distance between the mount and the sensor.
Ok that sounds excellent. So using sensor to front of the lens as a comparison, it looks like:

5DIV + EF 70-200 2.8: 243mm
R + RF 70-200 2.8: 173mm

That's 70mm, or 2.75 inches shorter for the combo. That is insane
 

Lee Jay

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LOL. Well if you can't tell the difference then the 200-400 is not for you.
I can...the Sigma is much more capable of properly framing a fast moving subject because of its wider continuous zoom range and it's much lighter and easier to use.

Optical quality is quite good and I don't need the speed. When I do, I shoot with my 70-200/2.8L IS II.

The closest thing to the Sigma in Canon's lineup is the 100-400L II + 1.4x TC. But that severely limits your autofocus capabilities.
 

scyrene

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I can...the Sigma is much more capable of properly framing a fast moving subject because of its wider continuous zoom range and it's much lighter and easier to use.

Optical quality is quite good and I don't need the speed. When I do, I shoot with my 70-200/2.8L IS II.

The closest thing to the Sigma in Canon's lineup is the 100-400L II + 1.4x TC. But that severely limits your autofocus capabilities.
I'm glad you like that lens, I'm sure it's very capable! But saying therefore the 200-400 is 10x too expensive is still silly. Maybe it's overpriced, but there are reasons it costs a lot more.
 
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Lee Jay

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I'm glad you like that lens, I'm sure it's very capable! But saying therefore the 200-400 is 10x too expensive is still silly. Maybe it's overpriced, but there are reasons it costs a lot more.
Okay, given what it is and what it can do, I think it should be MSRP $4,000, maximum. For my uses, it's not as good as the Sigma 150-600C, and I wouldn't trade 1-for-1.

I really wish Canon would make a decent competitor for the three available Tamron and Sigma 150-600s and the Sigma 60-600. But they seem to be protecting their big white cash cows instead, which is one reason I've never bought one.
 

Kit Lens Jockey

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I agree that the R has a few bugs and one could argue that it is a mirror-free mkIV. However, when it really comes down to it all mirrorless cameras are like that. A sensor that could be in a DSLR in a body that has a ton of customizability and some reduction in mass.

As for the expensive lenses introduced at an early stage, IMO they wanted to declare that they were serious about the platform. They have gotten a lot of grief over the past few years of being indifferent to improvement and specifically mirrorless. These halo lenses are statement that they have heard the public and are responding with innovation.
While the 50 1.2 and the 28-70 f2 will not likely sell in large numbers, they are aspirational markers for many to dream about. At the same time they did intro a very good 24-105 and an affordable and versatile 35. I am confident that a lot of new and affordable lenses will be coming.

On the issue of affordability, however, I think that is a relative term as the needs to recoup R&D and the increased expenses of 21st century production will move prices higher.
Sadly we can't cling to the pricing of yore when a 50 1.8 was ~$100 or less.
Yes obviously all mirrorless cameras are essentially like a DSLR in live view. But I'm talking specifically about how close the EOS R is to a 5D4, technologically. Really all they had to do to make the EOS R is take the sensor and interface that already existed for the 5D4's live view mode, and stick it in a new body with an EVF. Dual pixel autofocus has been around for years on the 5D4. It's just getting put to good use in the EOS R.

Granted there are a few improvements related to making the "live view" function of the EOS R into a fully featured way to shoot rather than the side show that it's always been in DSLRs. But really, there isn't a whole lot that the EOS R is that the 5D4 isn't when it's in live view. I'm just saying I don't think the EOS R was that huge of an engineering undertaking, aside from making the new RF mount.

Regardless of how exactly how much the lenses cost, it just seems weird to have Canon coming out with all of these top end, professional lenses when the only camera there is to use them with is... A little less than professional.

I still say that this product rollout is not exactly how Canon wanted it to go. Seems like they're struggling with mirrorless camera tech and didn't want to come out with it quite as early as they were forced to by Nikon. But meanwhile, they know how to make good lenses all day long, so those are coming out in droves.
 

Daner

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As titillating as these rumors are, Canon needs to balance them against the risk of negative consequences from the Osborne effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect

As a 5DIV owner that currently uses "bargain" glass (older but perfectly functional L versions purchased used) I have been on the cusp of upgrading stepwise to current, better versions of my EF lenses, but the likelihood of even better RF glass becoming available soon presents a bit of a dilemma. If Canon had a true RF equivalent to my 5DMkIV I would definitely consider taking the plunge and changing out both my 5DMkIV and used glass for a new RF body and glass. Since they haven't yet released a pro body, but we have reason to believe that these new RF lenses are coming soon (with no compelling evidence of EF equivalent models) it makes me not want to buy anything right now.

On the bright side, this is good for my own economy, but it is not necessarily directly good for Canon. Of course, it also serves to dampen any temptation that I might have to switch platforms, so there is that...
 
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Michael Clark

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I wish Canon did trade-in offers like Sony & Nikon are doing with their cameras.

I want that RF 85mm f/1.2L, but I really hope Canon implement IBIS because that heavy glass will need it.
IS seems to work OK with the EF 85mm f/1.4 L IS.

It's also pretty good with the EF 400mm f/2.8 L IS III from what I hear.
 

Viggo

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One can only speculate why Nikon and Sony are running trade-in offers :poop:
 

Michael Clark

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Yeah, a little hard to believe these will all come in 2019. They would of had to be developing some of them over the past two years. Was Canon looking that far ahead?
Canon always thinks that far ahead.

When the first IS lens was released in 1995, it turned out that all bodies introduced since 1993 were already compatible with the new IS lens.

When the first bodies with user accessible AFMA were introduced in 2007, it turned out that all new EF lenses introduced since around 2004 had internal serial numbers communicated to the body so that the camera could discriminate between two different copies of the same model lens.

When the 470EX-AI was introduced in early 2018, it turned out that all new bodies introduced since the 7D Mark II in late 2014 (1D X Mark II, 5Ds/5Ds R, 5D IV, 6D II, 80D, 77D, several Rebels, and the EOS M50) had the needed firmware to run the whiz-bang self aiming bounce flash.
 
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Michael Clark

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I currently use a 7D mark II, and my second most-used lens is the Sigma 150-600C. If I were going to change to a full-frame R camera, I'd have to replace that 240mm-960mm equivalent range. I'd probably tolerate something like a 200-800/5-8. My third most-used lens is the 8-15/4L, which could only be replaced by something like a 13-25ish zoom fisheye.

One of the big reasons I changed from full-frame to crop is that the 24-70/2.8ii didn't have IS. Looks like Canon finally got that message, but it's several years too late for me. I was all set to give them over $5k of my money for a 5DIV + 24-70/2.8 IS, but they didn't come out with one. I'm glad they didn't - the 7D Mark ii system saved me a lot of money and I have over 70,000 images on it since I got it.
Well, I paid $700 for my Sigma 150-600C, brand new.
If you are happy with the image quality and maximum aperture you get at 600mm f/6.3 with the Sigma 150-600mm on an APS-C camera, the high end Canon long glass is not for you.
 

Normalnorm

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Yes obviously all mirrorless cameras are essentially like a DSLR in live view. But I'm talking specifically about how close the EOS R is to a 5D4, technologically. Really all they had to do to make the EOS R is take the sensor and interface that already existed for the 5D4's live view mode, and stick it in a new body with an EVF. Dual pixel autofocus has been around for years on the 5D4. It's just getting put to good use in the EOS R.

Granted there are a few improvements related to making the "live view" function of the EOS R into a fully featured way to shoot rather than the side show that it's always been in DSLRs. But really, there isn't a whole lot that the EOS R is that the 5D4 isn't when it's in live view. I'm just saying I don't think the EOS R was that huge of an engineering undertaking, aside from making the new RF mount.

Regardless of how exactly how much the lenses cost, it just seems weird to have Canon coming out with all of these top end, professional lenses when the only camera there is to use them with is... A little less than professional.

I still say that this product rollout is not exactly how Canon wanted it to go. Seems like they're struggling with mirrorless camera tech and didn't want to come out with it quite as early as they were forced to by Nikon. But meanwhile, they know how to make good lenses all day long, so those are coming out in droves.
I think this rollout was exactly what they wanted to do. Introduce a couple of halo lenses to establish their commitment to the mirrorless platform, and a moderately priced body with enough features to not fall flat. Then introduce a value priced model for the mass market and finally a “pro” model for all the hobbyists to drain their retirement savings on.