Talys said:
No, it's not a go-to phrase to say that bigger lenses ==> bigger sensor ==> more light onto sensor ==> better SNR.
People who don't agree with that should join the flat earth society.
Bwahahahaha.... alright...
However, if I can prove you wrong, will you join me in joining the flat earth society?
Okay... Lets not think about any other camera company (forget the whole mft segment)... lets strictly look at Canon and their cameras.
Rhetorical questions:
Which is better in terms of SNR (same lens & same sensor size) - 1dx mark 2 or the 5DSR?
Which is better in terms of SNR (same lens & same sensor size) - 1dx mark 2 or the 1DS mark 3?
Which is better in terms of SNR (same lens & same sensor size) - 80D or the 50D?
Which is better in terms of SNR (same lens & same sensor size) - 80D or the 7D?
Which is better in terms of SNR (same lens & different sensor size) - 80D or the 1dx mark 2? (This is the only time it will work in your favor - in terms of defining your logic above)
Which is better in terms of SNR (same lens & different sensor size) - 80D or Original 5D?
See... now.... you don't need to share your answers.... and I'm sure you've reached your own conclusions... but just to make sure your conclusions are similar to mine, is it really sensor size or the technology built within the sensor as well as behind the sensor that effects SNR?
Now, I know you are biased, as am I... as everyone... especially if you have invested so much time and money in that company. In this case, I strongly believe, without a doubt, that no matter what I say.... you're only going believe in what you believe in... and if you believe in Canon, then thats that....
But, nonetheless, lets see if you can be unbiased here...
I'm only assuming that you do not have any stakes in either Pentax or Olympus... thus making you a third party, unbiased judge of their technology.
Is it so hard to believe that Olympus has better technology than Pentax?
With that same reasoning, is it so hard to think that another company has better technology than Canon?
Lastly, read this:
https://petapixel.com/2017/03/24/battle-micro-43-camera-outsold-full-frame-dslr/
After reading that, ask yourself this... sure... bigger sensor might be better (and I am really thinking about medium format and large format tbh)... but if you can't hack it with a smaller sensor, then may be its time for you to partake in another career/hobby?
Talys said:
If all you're going to buy are the common trinity zooms or all you want to shoot are weddings, then guess what? Any system will have stuff you can use.
If you want something that is not the most popular, bread-and-butter lenses, then yes, it matters a lot. Different people want different things. And sometimes, you grow to become interested in something, so you end up buying a lens that wasn't useful to you before. Plus, often, Canon has a very good low-price alternatives high value stuff, if you want "pretty good, but on a budget".
Can you please tell me and/or list those less popular, and/or bread-and-butter lenses? It will save us a lot of time if you can.... then tell me the price of them.
9VIII said:
It’s hilarious how many people bought the snake oil M4/3 is selling.
Those zooms are f5.6 equivalent due to the small sensor, and the f1.2 lens will barely outperfrom the Nifty Fifty on a Rebel.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1226781-REG/mitakon_zhongyi_mtk35m95m2fx_speedmaster_35mm_f_0_95_mark.html
Now this is value for money.
The fact that it’s manual focus is a downside, but this is glass for a crop sensor that’s about as good as any Full Frame lens of equivalent price.
This brings up a good question...
FOV changes due to sensor size is obvious and relatively quantifiable.
But does speed of a lens change due to sensor size?
So, if I see f/2.8 on a lens.... thats how much I would expect it to let in light.... wide open its going to be f/2.8. The barrel of the lens does not automatically change shape to let in more light for a Full-frame as opposed to mft????
Lastly, you too should read this:
https://petapixel.com/2017/03/24/battle-micro-43-camera-outsold-full-frame-dslr/