Chances of another f/1.0 lens coming?

bobby

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What do you guys think are the chances of us ever seeing another f/1.0 or faster lens made by Canon again, whether it be an RF or EF lens?
 

Respinder

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I hope one comes soon, but with the RF 50mm f1.2 announcement, the chances seem very unlikely that it will happen in the next 1-2 years. Perhaps another focal length (35, 85) may become available..
 
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Michael Clark

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Apr 5, 2016
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Slim to none.

The need for f/1.0 and even f/1.2 lenses was mainly due to sensitivity limitations of film and early digital sensors. With modern digital sensors, we can get image quality at crazy high ISOs like 6400 or even 12800 that we only dreamed of at ISO 1600 only a decade ago.

Those 'legendary' 50mm f/1 lenses were legendary for one thing: f/1.0. Otherwise they were significantly compromised compared to slower lenses in exchange for that fast aperture.
 
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Mar 22, 2012
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For bragging rights they might do it someday. It won't be their top priority.
A 16-35 2.8 R and 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8 , 100mm macro and 400 and 600 R will be important to produce for the EOS R camera
 

Michael Clark

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For bragging rights they might do it someday. It won't be their top priority.
A 16-35 2.8 R and 24-70 2.8, 70-200 2.8 , 100mm macro and 400 and 600 R will be important to produce for the EOS R camera
You'll likely see a 300/2.8 in the R mount before you see a 400/2.8 or 600/4.
 
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Shooting fast apertures isn’t to keep the iso low.

And although the 200 f2.0 and 200 f1.8 have “almost” the same aperture the small difference in pop is pretty awesome. I would’ve liked a 50 f1.0 L II instead of the RF50, I could then stop down to 1.2 and not have insane vingnetting ...
 
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Couple weeks ago stumbling around Seoul, one second hand shop had 50 F1.0 on shelf, with sticker that looked like 430k Won (= ~$400). Naturally I asked for the price. He punched 4.300.000 on the calculator, indicating 4.3M won, not 430k won :( That would have been instant buy if one zero was missing.
 

justaCanonuser

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Feb 12, 2014
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Here's a good review:
https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2018/01/canons-ultra-rare-lenses-using-the-canon-50mm-f1-0l/

Before Nikon's announcement of the new 58 mm f/0.95 Noctilux I would have said that Canon will not come up with such an extremely fast lens again. Zach Sutton's review of the old EF 50mm f/1.0 shows that Canon would have to improve the optical formula of such a lens substantially to make it fit for modern high resolving sensors. But because of the old rivalry between Nikon and Canon I wouldn't be surprised if they show off with a new anti Nikon super fast weapon for their RF system ;)

That said, I doubt that users of Nikon's manual only lens will be able to shoot it wide open and get in-focus results frequently with such an extremely shallow DoF. My experience with very fast manual rangefinder and SLR lenses (such as my EF 85mm f/1.2 II) is in a nutshell: a precisely working autofocus boosts such a lens's full potential and expands its fields of applications massively to non-static settings, including street shooting.
 
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Before Nikon's announcement of the new 58 mm f/0.95 Noctilux I would have said that Canon will not come up with such an extremely fast lens again. Zach Sutton's review of the old EF 50mm f/1.0 shows that Canon would have to improve the optical formula of such a lens substantially to make it fit for modern high resolving sensors. But because of the old rivalry between Nikon and Canon I wouldn't be surprised if they show off with a new anti Nikon super fast weapon for their RF system ;)
The noctilux costs about the same as a 300mm f/2.8 w/ AF & IS, and would sell even fewer copies. Most Nikon photographers would rather pay quarter the price for the 58mm f/1.4g and gain AF on the way.

That is, the 58mm f/0.95 is mainly a show off. Canon would be better off giving the old EF 50mm f/1.4 the same upgrade it gave the 24-28-35mm trio. It would be cheaper to develop a 50mm f/1.8 IS USM, and it would sell a whole lot better.
 
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justaCanonuser

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The noctilux costs about the same as a 300mm f/2.8 w/ AF & IS, and would sell even fewer copies. Most Nikon photographers would rather pay a quarter the price for the 58mm f/1.4g and gain AF on the way.

That is, the 58mm f/0.95 is mainly a show off. Canon would be better off giving the old EF 50mm f/1.4 the same upgrade it gave the 24-28-35mm trio. It would be cheaper to develop a 50mm f/1.8 IS USM, and it would sell a whole lot better.
I agree completely with you, Antono, but I think the old rivalry between Canon and Nikon had always a non-rational touch. But, maybe, Canon regards the new RF 28-70 F/2 as bold enough, since Nikon offers quite slow zoom lenses for their Z system. I am pretty sure that Canon will sell substantially more copies of that super fast zoom lens than Nikon of their Noctilux. Nikon isn't Leica these days, Leica can sell about 10 k$ prime lenses because they are established in the luxury market anyway.