D600 DXO is out!!!

[jcs16]

Weird 1dx was released much earlier yet no rating while d600 was just released couple of days ago and now been tested....

http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/Cameras/Camera-Sensor-Database/Nikon/D600

 

[Gothmoth]

94..... well let me make a guess.. the 6D will score 81.

Nikon’s recently released consumer-oriented full-frame sensor DSLR, the D600, has just gone through DxOMark’s image quality evaluation tests. And the verdict is in: the D600 is an affordable camera that places a high premium on image quality, as it ranks just behind the top performing Nikon D800 and Nikon D800E. It is also a significant improvement over the high-end professional flagship DSLRs, the Nikon D3X and the Nikon D4. Here are the DxOMark test results for the D600.

 

[jcs16]

I know DXO mark is plainly sensor but they do help with marketing. I just wonder why are they slow with releasing other cameras while a just released one is already tested. Could be Nikon is sponsor of theirs.

 

[Gothmoth]

well i hear that very often.. fact is you can license the DXO testing and it would be pretty soon public if they "fake" results in favour of nikon or any other company.

you can think about the DXO score what you like... but i don´t think they manipulate the results in favour of brands.

 

[jcs16]

I am not saying they're "faking" it. It's just I am wondering why is it their are brands that are tested earlier than others. Is it because nikon sees a marketing importance if dxo would release a data suggesting that the sensor in their camera is superior or canon, pentax or any other brand sees no importance in dxo data that they are not keen in sending their cameras to be tested. Because for what I know you would always see theses arguments with regards to dxo in photography forums. I know dxo mark is dependent on manufacturers to lend them their cameras to be tested but I think only nikon is the one making the most out of this publicity.

 

[Gothmoth]

I am not saying they're "faking" it.

ah.. sorry then i misread your posting.

 

[Albi86]

It scored how it was supposed to do. Sensor technology is the same.

 

[Aglet]

Good luck with that 6D, Canon, D600 test results at DxOmark = D800's top-of-pack

Some seem to have a particular distrust of DxOmark's test results which show recent Nikon bodies humiliating Canon's offerings in the critical low ISO dynamic range results.
Well, there's new fodder for your angst.

The D600's test results are virtually the same as the D800 and D800e and that puts it a full 2.5 stops better than the 5D3 at base ISO.

Canon's "new" sensor in the 6D better be part of a whole new system that can pull of a miraculous improvement if they want to stem the criticism. 1Dx results are still not posted either but should be a bit better than the 5D3's in the DR measurement.

 

[Tammy]

Re: Good luck with that 6D, Canon, D600 test results at DxOmark = D800's top-of-pack

If only the Nikons could focus.

 

[Ricku]

Re: Good luck with that 6D, Canon, D600 test results at DxOmark = D800's top-of-pack

Canon couldn't improve their DR, even if their life depended on it.

If we are lucky, Canon might catch up with Nikon's (Sony's) current sensor tech by year 2015.

If only the Nikons could focus.

Ridiculous fanboy comment, and you know it.

 

[molnarcs]

I am not saying they're "faking" it. It's just I am wondering why is it their are brands that are tested earlier than others. Is it because nikon sees a marketing importance if dxo would release a data suggesting that the sensor in their camera is superior or canon, pentax or any other brand sees no importance in dxo data that they are not keen in sending their cameras to be tested. Because for what I know you would always see theses arguments with regards to dxo in photography forums. I know dxo mark is dependent on manufacturers to lend them their cameras to be tested but I think only nikon is the one making the most out of this publicity.

I think you answered your own question. Canon is not in a hurry to lend them their cameras, because they don't see it as a good marketing opportunity. How could they? Nikon's been pulling away for the past 3 years in sensor technology (some their own, like the D3S, d3200) some borrowed and tweaked (Sony mostly). Looks like their sensor strategy works rather well.

They chose not to invest in sensor manufacturing at the dawn of the digital era. Perhaps they didn't have the capital (much smaller company than Canon) or perhaps they thought it's too risky. They did, however, put a lot of money into sensor design R&D. Manufacturing capacity is there, at least 4-5 Japanese companies (Panasonic, Sony, and other names I can't recall). They have developed a number of sensors over the years (d3s being probably the most successful) but they also stayed open to new developments in the market. I think they had a partnership with Sony as far back as the d2x.

In theory, Canon could do the same - I don't think Nikon's deal with Sony is exclusive. The d800 maybe - they might be cross-licensing patents, for example, but it's probably only for a limited term. I wouldn't be surprised if some of the latest Sony improvements in low light performance were due to some IP exchange deal, but we'll never know. But imagine the built, ergonomics and performance of the 5D Mark III with the d600 sensor. That would be the camera!

 

[cliffwang]

Re: Good luck with that 6D, Canon, D600 test results at DxOmark = D800's top-of-pack

Honestly, who cares the test result after we saw the specs of 6D. And the result won't surprise me if Nikon uses Sony's sensor for it D600.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Nikon is paying DxO to test their bodies sooner. Or...Canon is paying DxO to not test their bodies soon. Or both. Or neither. :

But it really doesn't matter, now, does it?!?

 

[Fishnose]

Re: Good luck with that 6D, Canon, D600 test results at DxOmark = D800's top-of-pack

If only the Nikons could focus.

They focus fantastically well. So well that the D800 is excellent as a high speed sports camera (with a fast lens of course)

 

[jcs16]

Canon I think should at least try to benchmark its 1DX sensor against competition. Iphone is doing it in smartphone industry against competition, and if your going to base it in their data they are as fast as their nearest rival if not better. So if canon is telling as that 1dx is very good in low light they should give as some numerical data that would validate it. Otherwise these arguments would just run in circles. Hopefully in the coming weeks we will know.

 

[neuroanatomist]

Canon I think should at least try to benchmark its 1DX sensor against competition.

Why should they?

 

[Viggo]

I can't really say anything is lacking from the 1d x. I can't say I think about DxO when I'm out shooting. I can't say I give a crap about numbers anymore. After following Canon from the 350d, they finally made the perfect cam for me. If you don't get to try a Canon cam before buying it ask someone who has, not a guy using a d3s

 

[AprilForever]

How much does Nikon pay DxO?

 

[preppyak]

Interestingly, looking at their use case scores, it makes a compelling case that the D800 is now a very niche camera for Nikon. Only those that absolutely have to have 36mp would buy it, since it seems that the D600 does everything the D800 does, and in some cases, a little better (high ISO). I wonder if that cuts into Nikon's bottom line at all...

 

[Albi86]

Interestingly, looking at their use case scores, it makes a compelling case that the D800 is now a very niche camera for Nikon. Only those that absolutely have to have 36mp would buy it, since it seems that the D600 does everything the D800 does, and in some cases, a little better (high ISO). I wonder if that cuts into Nikon's bottom line at all...

If you're into birding and wildlife probably D800's 1.2 (24MP) and 1.5 (16MP) crop modes will come in handy (better DOF and FPS, lenses' sweet spot, etc). Also, in crop mode D800's AF points almost fill the whole frame, which is quite interesting for tracking. With a D600 you still would need another high-end APS-C camera to accomplish that, also in terms of pixels-on-subject.