EOS R viewfinder issue

killswitch

EOS RP
Aug 26, 2012
273
9
This is about the EOS R. I am using the latest firmware. I am trying to reduce the time or disable the image preview in the viewfinder after taking the shot. I remember there was some settings that sort of reduces the time it freezes my viewfinder. Or may be I am dreaming. Any one know how to fix this annoying issue?
 

killswitch

EOS RP
Aug 26, 2012
273
9
Turn off image review. That allows you to take the next shot immediately.

Its on the first tab, first page next to the bottom.
Thanks, I already have had that turned off. Okay, I suppose that slight delay/ frame freeze is unavoidable. Trying to take a photo of a toddler running around is tricky with the frame freeze. Can High Speed Display help in any way? Right now I am using EF lenses so I cannot enable that function, but curious if that is tied to the shutter speed and has nothing to do with viewfinder image preview lag?
 

Viggo

EOS 5D SR
Dec 13, 2010
4,212
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Thanks, I already have had that turned off. Okay, I suppose that slight delay/ frame freeze is unavoidable. Trying to take a photo of a toddler running around is tricky with the frame freeze. Can High Speed Display help in any way? Right now I am using EF lenses so I cannot enable that function, but curious if that is tied to the shutter speed and has nothing to do with viewfinder image preview lag?
High Speed Display is to further shorten the lag yes. It’s not a miracle function, but it does help.
 

Mt Spokane Photography

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Thanks, I already have had that turned off. Okay, I suppose that slight delay/ frame freeze is unavoidable. Trying to take a photo of a toddler running around is tricky with the frame freeze. Can High Speed Display help in any way? Right now I am using EF lenses so I cannot enable that function, but curious if that is tied to the shutter speed and has nothing to do with viewfinder image preview lag?
That frame freeze is indeed a annoyance when trying to keep the viewfinder on erratically moving subjects that you can't predict. I like everything about my R except that. My 5D MK IV is much better for cases like that.

I have display performance set to Smooth, but it is little help. What usually gets me is unexpected leaps, its much easier for a subject to be lost at the top of the screen. Zooming out helps, but is not the entire answer.
 
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killswitch

EOS RP
Aug 26, 2012
273
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I like my EOS R, and cannot wait to see what refinements they bring in the future mirrorless offerings. Is this viewfinder issue fixable by firmware/software update or it is not possible by design? I have to try a RF lens on it to see if I like screen refresh better with High Speed Display on.
 

YuengLinger

EOS 5D MK IV
Dec 20, 2012
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I like my EOS R, and cannot wait to see what refinements they bring in the future mirrorless offerings. Is this viewfinder issue fixable by firmware/software update or it is not possible by design? I have to try a RF lens on it to see if I like screen refresh better with High Speed Display on.
I think you will get used to the effect over time, and, hopefully the EVF's limitations won't interfere with your photography too much.

What is your favorite type of photography? Or what type of photos do you take most often?
 

killswitch

EOS RP
Aug 26, 2012
273
9
I think you will get used to the effect over time, and, hopefully the EVF's limitations won't interfere with your photography too much.

What is your favorite type of photography? Or what type of photos do you take most often?
Before my two year old son came along, I mostly did landscape, family events, and bit a of street. Now most of my shutter count is based around the toddler and his antics with landscape or surroundings as part of the compositions. I tried taking photos on Halloween, and it was hard to track him while I had image freeze after every shot. Granted I got some good shots, but in the end I resorted to live view to track and take shots while keeping an "eye" on him as he jumped around, hid behind barn doors, pumpkin patches, etc.
 
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Mt Spokane Photography

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I'm sorry but I think there's nothing else you can do. The EOS R is a wonderful camera...except for the EVF in situations like you just described.
My work-around is to keep an eye on the subject and the other one on the EVF; I'm sure this will have some biological consequences in time...:)
Some people can do that. I've had fixed focus lenses inserted into both of my eyes. I wear glasses that have a variable diopter such that you move your head or eyes slightly to change the focus to the necessary object. I don't think one eye could focus close and the other far, but some can certainly do it. Its probably good for your vision to exercise your eyes to do difficult things like that. For me to do it, I tilt my head but it just does not work well.
 

Kit Lens Jockey

EOS 7D MK II
Nov 12, 2016
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I've mostly gotten used to the EVF freezing up during burst shooting after owning the R for about a year. Your brain tends to get used to it after several months of using the camera. I feel like I can kind of "see through" the jerky EVF at this point and track subjects better than when I first got the camera. It's still not ideal, and hopefully the next RF camera improves on this, but it doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as it did when I first started using the R.
 

Nelu

5D Mark IV, 1Dx, EOS R
I've mostly gotten used to the EVF freezing up during burst shooting after owning the R for about a year. Your brain tends to get used to it after several months of using the camera. I feel like I can kind of "see through" the jerky EVF at this point and track subjects better than when I first got the camera. It's still not ideal, and hopefully the next RF camera improves on this, but it doesn't bother me anywhere near as much as it did when I first started using the R.
I totally agree but I have a question: do you know about any other mirrorless camera (except for the Sony A9) that doesn't do the same?
I don't think there's one at this point in time but I might be wrong.
Nelu
 

Kit Lens Jockey

EOS 7D MK II
Nov 12, 2016
528
190
I totally agree but I have a question: do you know about any other mirrorless camera (except for the Sony A9) that doesn't do the same?
I don't think there's one at this point in time but I might be wrong.
Nelu
Yes, many of Sony's cameras can do this, not just the A9. Here's a video of the A7 III, which is even cheaper than the EOS R, doing it. (I mean, maybe there's some slight jerkiness in there, but it's hard to tell. Definitely not as bad as the R.) So, Canon really has no defense for this aside from the fact that their mirrorless tech just isn't as mature, but hopefully it will get there. In the end, I'm still sticking with the EOS R for a variety of reasons, even after I briefly owned the A7 III.

 

Frodo

EOS RP
Nov 3, 2012
288
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Yes, many of Sony's cameras can do this, not just the A9. Here's a video of the A7 III, which is even cheaper than the EOS R, doing it. (I mean, maybe there's some slight jerkiness in there, but it's hard to tell. Definitely not as bad as the R.) So, Canon really has no defense for this aside from the fact that their mirrorless tech just isn't as mature, but hopefully it will get there. In the end, I'm still sticking with the EOS R for a variety of reasons, even after I briefly owned the A7 III.

Not saying that Sny hasn't got this sorted, but that YouTube clip is not definitive as the camera had no memory card. This may well affect how the camera processes (or not) the images and thereby affect lagging.
But I agree, this is the biggest downside of my EOS R - I can live with the single card, but viewfinder lag is a problem.
 

Nelu

5D Mark IV, 1Dx, EOS R
Not saying that Sny hasn't got this sorted, but that YouTube clip is not definitive as the camera had no memory card. This may well affect how the camera processes (or not) the images and thereby affect lagging.
But I agree, this is the biggest downside of my EOS R - I can live with the single card, but viewfinder lag is a problem.
This!
You hit the nail on the head!
Can we please compare apples to apples? Shooting without a card is not what happens in the real life unless your IQ is lower than the camera's FPS number...
 
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Nelu

5D Mark IV, 1Dx, EOS R
Yes, many of Sony's cameras can do this, not just the A9. Here's a video of the A7 III, which is even cheaper than the EOS R, doing it. (I mean, maybe there's some slight jerkiness in there, but it's hard to tell. Definitely not as bad as the R.) So, Canon really has no defense for this aside from the fact that their mirrorless tech just isn't as mature, but hopefully it will get there. In the end, I'm still sticking with the EOS R for a variety of reasons, even after I briefly owned the A7 III.

You mean like this?
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1565980/2
"Oddly enough, the first time I tried to shoot a moving subject with the A7III was kids sliding down a slip and slide. For one shot and done, the AF would find the eye and allow me to get shots that a DSLR (for me 5D3) probably wouldn't have. Then I tried to pan and shoot from the side of the slide and was like....WTF! Take picture...blackout...stutter...kid way further down the slide than I anticipated...WTF again.

Tried turning down resolution on the EVF to standard, started using UHS-II cards, nothing really helped. I also think the blackout on the ML is more pronounced than the mirror flip on a DSLR.

So I think I'm going to keep the DSLR for the fast gotta have focus times and maybe sell the A7III and get the A7R3..it's a little better and will be put on portrait duty :) This sucks because the Sony sensors are miles ahead of Canon. Another reason it's a bummer :-("
 

SecureGSM

2 x 5D IV
Feb 26, 2017
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because the Sony sensors are miles ahead of Canon
In what department though?
DR?
Readout speed?
What are the key metrics of performance indicators that prompt you to suggest this.

Thank you.
 

Nelu

5D Mark IV, 1Dx, EOS R
In what department though?
DR?
Readout speed?
What are the key metrics of performance indicators that prompt you to suggest this.

Thank you.
Oh, I’m not suggesting this, it was the user’s opinion, as it was his opinion about the A7 3’s EVF.
I was quoting him regarding that camera’s EVF usability for fast action, not necessary about the Sony’s sensor performance.
I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear enough:)