Few 1DXII samples

Luckshot

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brianftpc said:
why is the dpi 350. probably a noob question...but my 1dx and 5dsr pics are both 300 dpi
Until a digital file has to be output, the DPI is just a setting. It’s for converting pixels to in/cm measurements for printing or saving to a specific size.

Suppose a client wants a “8 inch wide jpeg at 300dpi”, the resulting file will be 2400px (8*300) wide. The could also specify a higher or lower DPI, and the pixel size would change accordingly.

Pixels inside the computer, DPI outside the computer.
 

BRunner

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Aug 27, 2014
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Other comparison, 5DII at ISO3200 and 1DXII at ISO25600, both pushed 3EV in DPP4.4.20 and converted to B/W to show the pattern noise in image (or lack off in case of 1DXII).
Of course, you can't break laws of physics, so there is obviously more photon noise and lower dynamic range in ISO25600 shot, but the lack of any pattern noise makes the image more usable in my eyes!
BTW: the pattern noise even at low ISOs was main reason why I've switched from 5DII to 1DsIII 4 years ago....and skipped 5DIII too....

5DII ISO3200 +3EV



1DXII ISO25600 +3EV

 

ehouli

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Jan 8, 2013
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scyrene said:
ehouli said:
I don't see this very promising, a friend tried while ina trip a Nikon D750 that has more resolution and is not a just released camera and has better quality even at 51.200 on a less than ideal light.

With more light, the 1Dx mk II should have better noise handling than what I am seeing here, if Canon doesn't develop better sensores, I think they should state their cameras are only for "Daylight" photography.
Got some samples/comparisons to back that up? If you think these results are useless for anything other than daylight photography, then you can't have done much photography in poor light.
I'll give you something more useful: The original NEF files so you can open them in ACR and see it yourself

Link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2y6xa325si5ck87/AAAJ0iHiKzNHUPQH1Up3nuNwa?dl=0
 

BRunner

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Aug 27, 2014
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ehouli said:
scyrene said:
ehouli said:
I don't see this very promising, a friend tried while ina trip a Nikon D750 that has more resolution and is not a just released camera and has better quality even at 51.200 on a less than ideal light.

With more light, the 1Dx mk II should have better noise handling than what I am seeing here, if Canon doesn't develop better sensores, I think they should state their cameras are only for "Daylight" photography.
Got some samples/comparisons to back that up? If you think these results are useless for anything other than daylight photography, then you can't have done much photography in poor light.
I'll give you something more useful: The original NEF files so you can open them in ACR and see it yourself

Link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2y6xa325si5ck87/AAAJ0iHiKzNHUPQH1Up3nuNwa?dl=0
Well, still worse than even plain1DX...try harder ;)

 

whothafunk

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Apr 17, 2013
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TommyLee said:
25,000 iso looks like 4000 or 5000 .. on the 5D3...
Nice troll. No way 7D2 has so much noise at ISO 2000/2500.

(for reference: 7D2 is about 1 stop noiser than 5D3)
 

Diltiazem

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Aug 23, 2014
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ehouli said:
scyrene said:
ehouli said:
I don't see this very promising, a friend tried while ina trip a Nikon D750 that has more resolution and is not a just released camera and has better quality even at 51.200 on a less than ideal light.

With more light, the 1Dx mk II should have better noise handling than what I am seeing here, if Canon doesn't develop better sensores, I think they should state their cameras are only for "Daylight" photography.
Got some samples/comparisons to back that up? If you think these results are useless for anything other than daylight photography, then you can't have done much photography in poor light.
I'll give you something more useful: The original NEF files so you can open them in ACR and see it yourself

Link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2y6xa325si5ck87/AAAJ0iHiKzNHUPQH1Up3nuNwa?dl=0
D750 high ISO noise is similar to 6D and that is pretty good, but nothing extraordinary.
Please see here
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=canon_eos5dmkiii&attr13_1=sony_a7rii&attr13_2=canon_eos6d&attr13_3=nikon_d750&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=12800&attr16_1=12800&attr16_2=12800&attr16_3=12800&attr171_0=off&attr171_1=off&normalization=compare&widget=227&x=0.34361651637399143&y=-0.21164589854130986

There is no 1Dx or 1DxII to compare, but we know that if anything 1Dx was either equal to or slightly better than 6D for high ISO noise. I don't expect 1DxII to be any worse than 1Dx.
 

ehouli

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Jan 8, 2013
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BRunner said:
ehouli said:
scyrene said:
ehouli said:
I don't see this very promising, a friend tried while ina trip a Nikon D750 that has more resolution and is not a just released camera and has better quality even at 51.200 on a less than ideal light.

With more light, the 1Dx mk II should have better noise handling than what I am seeing here, if Canon doesn't develop better sensores, I think they should state their cameras are only for "Daylight" photography.

Got some samples/comparisons to back that up? If you think these results are useless for anything other than daylight photography, then you can't have done much photography in poor light.
I'll give you something more useful: The original NEF files so you can open them in ACR and see it yourself

Link: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2y6xa325si5ck87/AAAJ0iHiKzNHUPQH1Up3nuNwa?dl=0
Well, still worse than even plain1DX...try harder ;)

Nope, you should try harder, upload some RAWs and let's see ;)
 

cazza132

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Apr 22, 2014
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Those bragging about the D750 - well from what I see here, even the 5DSR handles ISO12800 better than the lot. Not even it's native ISO :/ Actually, the D750 is the worst of the lot. Bit disappointed with the A7RII actually. And I think the 5DSR nudges out the 6D. Nothing retains the details in the greens like the 5DSR. All a close call all round though.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=canon_eos5dsr&attr13_1=sony_a7rii&attr13_2=canon_eos6d&attr13_3=nikon_d750&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=12800&attr16_1=12800&attr16_2=12800&attr16_3=12800&attr171_0=off&attr171_1=off&normalization=compare&widget=227&x=0.7397947275730029&y=0.49156699537227466
 

cazza132

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Apr 22, 2014
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I know this is all off topic, but geez, the 5DsR really strides at ISO3200 (do most astro at that ISO). Why is the D750 even getting a mention. 6D easily holds in own against it at 2 years older!
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=canon_eos5dsr&attr13_1=sony_a7rii&attr13_2=canon_eos6d&attr13_3=nikon_d750&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=3200&attr16_1=3200&attr16_2=3200&attr16_3=3200&attr171_0=off&attr171_1=off&normalization=compare&widget=227&x=0.7397947275730029&y=0.49156699537227466
 

cgc

Feb 9, 2016
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Many thanks for your files!.

If you manage to upload a single ISO 100 CR2 file (I don't know if you are allowed to) I could quickly analize the low ISO dynamic range, using the same method applied to the 80D on this thread http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1419472. Likely the 1DX2 is even better than the 80D. We all are a lot of impatient to know how much Canon has improved.
 

ehouli

EOS M50
Jan 8, 2013
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cazza132 said:
Those bragging about the D750 - well from what I see here, even the 5DSR handles ISO12800 better than the lot. Not even it's native ISO :/ Actually, the D750 is the worst of the lot. Bit disappointed with the A7RII actually. And I think the 5DSR nudges out the 6D. Nothing retains the details in the greens like the 5DSR. All a close call all round though.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=daylight&attr13_0=canon_eos5dsr&attr13_1=sony_a7rii&attr13_2=canon_eos6d&attr13_3=nikon_d750&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=12800&attr16_1=12800&attr16_2=12800&attr16_3=12800&attr171_0=off&attr171_1=off&normalization=compare&widget=227&x=0.7397947275730029&y=0.49156699537227466
Geez, Really? Tell me, what are those color blotches all over the guy's forehead in the 5DsR and 6D?

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=lowlight&attr13_0=canon_eos5dsr&attr13_1=canon_eos1dx&attr13_2=canon_eos6d&attr13_3=nikon_d750&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=12800&attr16_1=12800&attr16_2=12800&attr16_3=12800&attr171_0=off&attr171_1=off&normalization=compare&widget=227&x=-0.8881970162206794&y=-0.12866962936513843
 

BRunner

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Aug 27, 2014
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ehouli said:
Nope, you should try harder, upload some RAWs and let's see ;)
Comparable D750 and 1DX RAWs from production cameras are free to download on imaging-resources.com... and preproduction 1DXII seems to be even better ;) I don't want to start any brand wars, I just think, that D750 is not in the same league with 1DX, D4s, D5 and A7S in terms of high ISO performance....
 

cazza132

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Apr 22, 2014
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They all have chroma noise, and my example shows detail strengths in the greens as opposed to pretty equal chroma noise on some dude's forehead - NR easily makes up there as required. Here is another example more about luma noise. Yes the 5Dsr does pretty good there. Res advantage is still holding at high ISO.
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=lowlight&attr13_0=canon_eos5dsr&attr13_1=canon_eos1dx&attr13_2=canon_eos6d&attr13_3=nikon_d750&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=12800&attr16_1=12800&attr16_2=12800&attr16_3=12800&attr171_0=off&attr171_1=off&normalization=compare&widget=227&x=-0.04889722482509228&y=0.29592585613110456
 

BRunner

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Aug 27, 2014
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cgc said:
Many thanks for your files!.

If you manage to upload a single ISO 100 CR2 file (I don't know if you are allowed to) I could quickly analize the low ISO dynamic range, using the same method applied to the 80D on this thread http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1419472. Likely the 1DX2 is even better than the 80D. We all are a lot of impatient to know how much Canon has improved.
You have PM on fredmiranda forum.
 

cazza132

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Apr 22, 2014
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And at low ISO, the 5DsR blasts the lot - how's the moire in everything - ironic hey. D750 has a shitgo there :/
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/image-comparison/fullscreen?attr18=lowlight&attr13_0=canon_eos5dsr&attr13_1=canon_eos1dx&attr13_2=canon_eos6d&attr13_3=nikon_d750&attr15_0=raw&attr15_1=raw&attr15_2=raw&attr15_3=raw&attr16_0=100&attr16_1=100&attr16_2=100&attr16_3=100&attr171_0=off&attr171_1=off&normalization=compare&widget=227&x=-0.04889722482509228&y=0.29592585613110456
 

BRunner

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Aug 27, 2014
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ehouli said:
Nope, you should try harder, upload some RAWs and let's see ;)
DPReview use Adobe for their image comparison tool, but C1 does definitely much better job with Canon RAWs and visibly better with D4s... Yet even on not so "Canon friendly" site DPR is, 1DX shows better performance than D750...

With C1 it's tough between D4s and 1DX... Nikon is slightly noisier in blue and green channels, Canon is noisier in red channel...