Here are the full Canon EOS R specifications

DanCarr

I'm New Here
Apr 15, 2015
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So I'll say it. DPRAW + 8 fps seals it. EOS R is (kinda) a mirrorless 5D4.

If this is $2000, I'd be completely stunned.

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No, it's 8FPS with one-shot AF. If you use AI-servo it's 5fps at most in release priority (with a laundry list of options that will slow that down) and a paltry 3fps in tracking priority mode. This is a significant difference to a 5D Mark IV. To me that kind of difference in continuous shooting speed really thins out the number of people this camera will be good for. There's lots of people who use the 5D4 for sports and wildlife (myself included) because it actually walks a nice line between speed and file resolution. With those kinds of slow continuous speeds on the EOS R, there's no way I can use it to replace a 5D4. Not sure I'd even carry it as a backup!
 
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I would say thank you to CanonRumors (and insider Nokishita-san obviously) about these important news.
So we can understand better what's happen on market.
I agree with all you about another opportunity totally lost by Canon. I can still work with my solid Eos 5D IV (with right ergonomics, dial wheel and joystick), my good Zeiss and Sigma Art lenses, and buy in relax a second body Sony a7R III.
I don't wanna be another time beta-tester dummy for Canon (and Nikon also), maybe either second or third generation will be more honest choices. Thank you again to all guys that work at this website. Very appreciate.
 

canonic

EOS T7i
Jun 29, 2013
68
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And something else.
I thought to use my Canon 17-55 2,8 EF-S on this camera, but then read this:
• Full HD 59.94 fps not available during EF-S cropped shooting.
What? Why?
 

RickWagoner

EOS 80D
Aug 11, 2014
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If the rumor price of -$2000 is true the Camera is a great bang for the buck Full Frame Canon compared to the 6d2 at $1,700.

This is not going to be their pro model mirrorless also but it is still nicely loaded esp at the price.
 
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memoriaphoto

EOS 80D
Oct 14, 2013
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While looking for information or leads regarding Eye-AF I noticed something in that fact sheet that doesn't seem right.

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It seems this is from another camera, no?
 
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Septem Darnay

I'm New Here
Sep 2, 2018
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And something else.
I thought to use my Canon 17-55 2,8 EF-S on this camera, but then read this:

What? Why?
probably because FHD 60fps uses the whole sensor area, or at least an area larger than the APSC lens image circle, so EF-S lens cannot be used?
 
Not really on purpose. As I suspected they haven't been able to increase their sensors' readout speed at this price point. This is why you get this 720p only 120 fps spec, the 3fps with focus priority tracking, etc.
As a result, we may also get the following : no live view feed in continuous drive mode (we'll only see a slideshow of the previous pictures taken), very slow scan time in fully electronic shutter, 12 bit raw in some continuous modes, and, I'm afraid : cropped 4K, or FF 4K with line skipping and severe rolling shutter.
On the plus side though this gives me very strong M50 vibes in terms of pricing strategy. Which will then makes the launch lenses nonsensical, at least as far as the initial R consumers are concerned, as there's only one non L lens.
I'll fix it for you - most probably their current sensor tech for stills cameras is not capable to do it at any price point. Unless they have some different chip in their sleeves for a higher end model, don't expect miracles even with more high specced model ....
 
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MayaTlab

EOS 80D
Oct 6, 2015
191
77
Price it at 1.6K-1.7K and all the whining would disappear. Canon can sell this at a slight loss if they want, knowing they can make up for it with the new R lenses.
Agreed with the price. And at the price you suggest, Canon wouldn't sell it at a loss. The R is a simple, cheap camera to make with very few required alignment steps during manufacturing.

But they absolutely won't make up for it with the R lenses. Because only the 35mm f1.8 really is coherent with what the R is shaping up to be : a "cheap and cheerful" camera. That 28-70 f2 ? It will be a nice heirloom that will stay glued to the stores' shelves until Canon releases a body to match it.
 
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MayaTlab

EOS 80D
Oct 6, 2015
191
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I'll fix it for you - most probably their current sensor tech for stills cameras is not capable to do it at any price point. Unless they have some different chip in their sleeves for a higher end model, don't expect miracles even with more high specced model ....
I agree with you, I was just being nice (we're on Canonrumors.com after all...) :D. People expecting Canon to come up with an A9 competitor any time soon are in for a disappointment.
 
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canonic

EOS T7i
Jun 29, 2013
68
4
probably because FHD 60fps uses the whole sensor area, or at least an area larger than the APSC lens image circle, so EF-S lens cannot be used?
If this is the case, then FHD should not be possible with 30 fps or 24 fps either. This makes no sense.
 
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Mark D5 TEAM II

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Tleilax, Thalim Star System
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Is Fv mode the new Flexible Priority AE mode? I was hoping Canon would copy Pentax's HyperProgram mode, TAv mode (Shutter&Aperture Priority) & ISO priority (Sv, Sensitivity Value) modes.
 
It looks like refurbished 5DIV sensor, as there's dual pixel RAW. I still can't believe it would be just a overthought gimmick Canon has added lately. Wonder if we can expect some new aspects of the dual pixel RAW here, or it is just the relict of the 5DIV sensor.
 

MayaTlab

EOS 80D
Oct 6, 2015
191
77
Is Fv mode the new Flexible Priority AE mode? I was hoping Canon would copy Pentax's HyperProgram mode, TAv mode (Shutter&Aperture Priority) & ISO priority (Sv, Sensitivity Value) modes.
I think so. I have a feeling that Canon has tried quite a few interesting things with UI / controls, particularly regarding exposure. Whether they're successful implementations or not we'll see but I'm glad to see some attempts in that area.