Here is the Canon EOS R announcement live

[Mark D5 TEAM II]

"The Canon EOS R is pretty unique in that when you turn the camera off and remove the lens the shutter comes down. That protects the sensor. As simple as this sounds, no one else does this. Innovative? In this case, yes. But no one else does it and I’m not sure why.

From: https://www.thephoblographer.com/20...-r-canons-first-full-frame-mirrorless-camera/

 

[Mark D5 TEAM II]

Focus by wire is absolutely fine. IF it is implemented really right: 100% responsive, precise/smooth operation. I don't see a reason why it could not also be combined with a [mechanical] "hard stop" at both MFD and infinity. Then it would be truly perfect.

If all new aircraft are FBW, why should 21st century lenses not be? I fully welcome FBW. Actually, I would not even manual focussing capability at all.

FBW just has a bit of a bad rap because of so many (earlier) cr*ppy implementations - eg in compact cameras - with all sorts of lag, "play", coarse, unprecise, wobbly, underpowered operation.

The HondaJet disagrees.

 

[fullstop]

From: https://www.thephoblographer.com/20...-r-canons-first-full-frame-mirrorless-camera/

"Shutter down when camera off and lens removed" comes as a little surprise. Sounds very good.

 

[Mikehit]

From: https://www.thephoblographer.com/20...-r-canons-first-full-frame-mirrorless-camera/

I will fully admit that Canon is doing some innovative things in terms of lenses and with some of the new features

Surely not....

 

[Aussie shooter]

I wonder how good the f11 focusing will prove to be? Quite a phenomonal achievement if it works effectively

 

[Mark D5 TEAM II]

I think the reason why is because it draws some power to keep the shutter closed, maybe the other manufacturers think that's a drawback no matter how small, hmmm...

 

[Mikehit]

I wonder how good the f11 focusing will prove to be? Quite a phenomonal achievement if it works effectively

I wonder if it will be limited like the Sony with AF only on the first frame?

 

[AlanF]

Do these count?
https://www.dpreview.com/files/p/articles/8532025911/JeanetteDMoses-DJI-13.jpeg

No, they are drones.

 

[Aussie shooter]

I wonder if it will be limited like the Sony with AF only on the first frame?

Perhaps. But with the EV-6 capability it might function well

 

[AlanF]

£2,349.00 UK price plus £11,999 for the 400/2.8 III. £199 £99 for the basic adapter is a rip-off price. It will be be bundled free with some deals. No point in buying if you have a 5DIV, and we don't know how fast the AF is yet.

 

[BillB]

R price is good. I think ~$2k is an easy sell. 28-70/2 price is just right... to maximize profit on it, IMO.

Doubt that 28-70 f2 will ever be a big volume item.

 

[BillB]

No. Overall and performance-wise it really is a mirrorfree 6D III with 5D IV sensor. It is a Nikon Z6 competitor, not Z7.
No IBIS, yet MSRP price higher than Nikon Z6 and Sony A7 III.

Also has Digic 8

 

[BillB]

No more need for a 6D III.
And once they bring the higher-end mirrorfree model, no more need for a 5D V.

'SLAPPER DOOM!

Need and demand are not the same thing. But Canon has to work that one out for itself. Thanks for your opinion though.

 

[Mikehit]

does the R have the same heavy codec as the 5DIV?

 

[Kit Lens Jockey]

I'm really thrilled to see that the camera closes the shutter when you remove the lens. It's completely mystifying to me why no one else does this. The biggest concern I have using mirrorless is having that big, expensive, easily damaged sensor hanging out in the open when I change lenses. Canon seems to have figured out the solution to this that should have been second nature to all manufacturers all along. Once again Canon seems to be the only manufacturer who understands what making a camera durable under real world conditions means.

And hopefully it's designed in a way that it does not drain the battery just to hold the shutter closed. Perhaps there's a locking mechanism that engages that holds it shut without the use of battery power. If they had the foresight to make the shutter close when you remove a lens, hopefully they had the foresight to make it so that the camera isn't sitting there draining the battery any time a lens is removed. But then again, who just leaves a camera sitting around for long periods without a lens on it anyway?

 

[3kramd5]

I'm really thrilled to see that the camera closes the shutter when you remove the lens. It's completely mystifying to me why no one else does this. The biggest concern I have using mirrorless is having that big, expensive, easily damaged sensor hanging out in the open when I change lenses. Canon seems to have figured out the solution to this that should have been second nature to all manufacturers all along. Once again Canon seems to be the only manufacturer who understands what making a camera durable under real world conditions means.

It’s probably because shutters are delicate and less prone to damage when open.

Something which will damage the sensor, which is covered in glass, would probably do so through a closed shutter. This might keep dust off during lens changes.

 

[Kit Lens Jockey]

Fair enough. You're right with regard to actual damage to a sensor. Just having the shutter there isn't much protection. I guess ultimately I'm more concerned about dust and dirt, which this solution should go a long way in protecting from.

And honestly, if you're allowing any object to come close to your camera's shiny parts when the lens is removed, whether it's a mirror, shutter, or sensor, you get what you get. Dust and dirt protection is the biggest thing everyone needs to be worried about, and this should help a lot.

 

[traveller]

£2,349.00 UK price plus £11,999 for the 400/2.8 III. £199 for the basic adapter is a rip-off price. It will be be bundled free with some deals. No point in buying if you have a 5DIV, and we don't know how fast the AF is yet.

The basic "Mount Adapter EF-EOS R" is $99, it's the Control Ring Mount Adapter EF-EOS R that is $199.99:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/0628186309/three-ef-to-rf-adapters-available-for-eos-r

I find it a bit odd that Canon put the control ring at the front of the new RF lenses, as it means that it will be in a totally different position to adapted EF glass using the Control Ring Mount Adapter EF-EOS R, which produces an awkward cognitive dissonance if you use both EF and RF lenses.

 

[Durf]

Sounds like a pretty decent camera for their first FF Mirrorless.
Personally not for me but it's a good sign of things to come if sometime in the future I did want to switch from DSLR to Mirrorless.
They will only get better!!!!

 

[AlanF]

The basic "Mount Adapter EF-EOS R" is $99, it's the Control Ring Mount Adapter EF-EOS R that is $199.99:
https://www.dpreview.com/news/0628186309/three-ef-to-rf-adapters-available-for-eos-r

I find it a bit odd that Canon put the control ring at the front of the new RF lenses, as it means that it will be in a totally different position to adapted EF glass using the Control Ring Mount Adapter EF-EOS R, which produces an awkward cognitive dissonance if you use both EF and RF lenses.

You are right, but £99 is a rip-off. It is already being bundled here.