I'm on my 4th dslr since my film days, ..... Have, not, shot, video....
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I have used the green box mode.... ironically, for taking pictures of green boxesTinky said:Would be interesting to see a poll on how many people use green square mode on their current DSLR..
useful during AFMA....Tinky said:Or how many folk use the viewfinder blind that is attached to your strap (or built into your viewfinder if you are one of the chosen people)
Nice feature, but since I don't have it I'm fairly sure that I can live without it.....Tinky said:Or how many people would miss multiple spot metering?..
I do this all the time...720x480 pixel Jpgs..... of course I save large RAW as wellTinky said:Or shoot with their cam set to low res, highly compressed jpegs?
Tinky said:Would be interesting to see a poll on how many people use green square mode on their current DSLR..
Tinky said:Or how many folk use the viewfinder blind that is attached to your strap (or built into your viewfinder if you are one of the chosen people)
Tinky said:Or how many people would miss multiple spot metering?..
Tinky said:Or shoot with their cam set to low res, highly compressed jpegs?
Tinky said:To be fair 9% for regular movie use seems about right.
Tinky said:I don't like the subtext of some of the replies..
Tinky said:- Video is here to stay on your DSLR. Get used to it.
Tinky said:- If you don't like it, you are not compelled to use it.
Tinky said:- It adds negligible cost to your camera.
Tinky said:- It does not divert R&D costs from anything else. Canon had a video division long before they had DSLRs.
privatebydesign said:I don't like your blanket statements that have no actual knowledge behind them.
privatebydesign said:No, video was a side product of stills capture and the development of it has become a costly 'feature' arms race that no manufacturers sales team will let them sidestep.
Tinky said:privatebydesign said:I don't like your blanket statements that have no actual knowledge behind them.
I'm not all that keen on yours. It is an opinion forum. Ahhh the internet.
privatebydesign said:No, video was a side product of stills capture and the development of it has become a costly 'feature' arms race that no manufacturers sales team will let them sidestep.
No. I think you'll rather find that the popular use of technology for recording video from a photosensitive CCD precedes the recording of digital stills. Live view is a much later addition that spawned DSLR video capture.
I don't get the costly bit.
Cameras have got better and cheaper as time has went on. Some features have been killed off, some have flourished. Compare the price of a 10D to the price of a 70D and compare the specs.
A lot of folks have a bee in their bonnet about video. I think they are over-reacting.
The examples I gave were to make a point.. some features are absolutely necessary for some users, there are other features that some users will never ever use. It's the nature of consumer products.
And whilst I agree that a dedicated video camera is better for video, that wasn't the question.
Thanks, as ever for sharing your thoughts. Always very enlightening.
Don Haines said:I have a set of wrenches from 4mm to 50mm. I use some of them a lot.... others infrequently.... and some not at all. It's sort of like camera features..... some you use a lot, others seldom, and some not at all.
If I were to go to the store and buy just the wrenches I need, I would pay more than the price for the complete set. I bet it would be the same to purchase a camera with only the functions that I need......
privatebydesign said:You misunderstand my comment. In the context of stills cameras video was a by product of the Live View feature.
privatebydesign said:Until this latest iteration of video capabilities I agree with common wisdom, adding video cost very little and resulted in a cheaper camera, now with the fuller feature set of the video features I don't believe that to be th case any more. The software, firmware and hardware are now significant aspects of stills camera design and that has to cost real money.
privatebydesign said:True Don, but DSLR's are no longer wrench sets, they are wrench and socket sets and they cost more. If you are never going to use the socket set, or have a dedicated socket set, the combined set will cost you more money.
I believe we have now passed that point, we are paying for wrench and socket sets when we only want a few wrenches.
neuroanatomist said:distant.star said:Video IS the future, but I'm too mired in the past to get with the program.
Video may be the future, but a dSLR is not the best way to record it, at least for most people. Personally, I have a camcorder that does the job effectively.