Is an RF 135mm f/1.4L USM in development? [CR1]

jeffa4444

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Even more barmy than the 105mm f1.4...and yet still no 50mm f1.0....that's a proper stunt lens...
Honestly the current 135mm f2 could easily be pushed to f1.8 with a 77mm front thread. Then add a great IS unit and be done with it. Super light...super sharp and super capable. Make it's MFD to around 1m and it'll be amazing. A viable prime alternative to a 70-200 f2.8 LIS.
It seems Canon are only concerned in making colossal over sized lenses for the tiny cameras on the Rf mount.
All of the RF lenses are new designs and the market they are concerned the most about is the Pros / advanced amateurs that have the holy trinity of the 16 - 35mm f2.8L, 24-70MM f2.8L & the 70-200mm f2.8L followed by the 100-400mm f4 - 5.6L The holy trinity in RF mount have been announced as coming they need to do this to combat Sony and the G Master lenses. This is the market with the fattest margins not the entry level lenses the RP will need. Add in the present RF 50mm f1.2L and the upcoming RF 85mm f1.2L lenses that are so favoured by wedding photographers & fashion / portrait photographers and it is clear the Pros are the photographers a. you need to keep and b. were being swayed by Sony.

Canon have all their sales statistics, and they are aware of market trends not just what they are doing but also competitors including smart phones. Given how many years it took for Sony to get into a leading position, Canon are now reacting super fast. Developing lenses is time consuming and expensive.
 

jeffa4444

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I forgot to add, the Sony G Master lenses are not small, the laws of physics only saves you so much when producing fast lenses.
 
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padam

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Looking at their most recent tele developments, if they use a similar lightweight design with fluorite glass, magnesium alloy casing with fly-by-wire focusing, they can make some reduction with the weight, but the price will be astronomically high, so maybe they will skip most of those.
 

SwissFrank

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BTW a 135mm f/1.4 lens isn't unprecedented size. It's about 100mm entrance pupil, which for teles is about a 100mm front element. That's exactly the same as 200mm/2, 400mm/4.

What I'd like to see though is a 135/2 with perfectly round bokeh balls even to the corners. I think the front element would need to be about 144mm for that, given that the bokehballs cut about in half with the current 72mm front element.
 

Juangrande

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Wide opened, you can have one corner of the eye in focus and the other of the same eye out of focus.
Or you could shoot a subject some distance from the camera (full length and then some) and get great separation like never before at a longer distance. And if you wanted a tight headshot you still have the freedom to close down a couple stops. I would love such a lens.
 

Fran Decatta

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135 1.4 would be vreally crazy (also extremely expensive) If anyday canon creates an x1.4 or x2 extensor for RF mount, this will become almost 200 f2 (189 f2, exactly), Thats a lens almost valued on 6k$. I think it will be 1.8 IS or so.
 
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slclick

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The 135 f2 is showing its age, compared to the Sigma f1.8 and the Samyang f2 it's pretty lousy with softness and CA all over the place. It needed to be upgraded to a II about a decade ago.

Back in 1996 it was stunning. Even by 2009 it was still a good lens. Today it's just another old lens bypassed in Canon's obsession with new-shiny-sexy.

I wonder who works on Canon's assembly lines for lenses like that. It must be tough on their morale.
Speak for yourself. It's a great tool and one with a unique look when used correctly. Age has nothing to do with it. It's a great design, timeless.
 

lexptr

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Even more barmy than the 105mm f1.4...and yet still no 50mm f1.0....that's a proper stunt lens...
Honestly the current 135mm f2 could easily be pushed to f1.8 with a 77mm front thread. Then add a great IS unit and be done with it. Super light...super sharp and super capable. Make it's MFD to around 1m and it'll be amazing. A viable prime alternative to a 70-200 f2.8 LIS.
It seems Canon are only concerned in making colossal over sized lenses for the tiny cameras on the Rf mount.
Not exactly. The "holly trinity" is awesome. The RF 70-200 f2.8 is incredibly small. So I would say, they push in both directions: extreme super-species and normal workhorses. Where they are not focused is the third one: smaller and cheaper non-L lenses. Any ways, I agree with you, a good 135 f1.8 IS would be more appealing :)
 

Larsskv

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Speak for yourself. It's a great tool and one with a unique look when used correctly. Age has nothing to do with it. It's a great design, timeless.
I agree! It’s not that I don’t appreciate sharp lenses, but I have a hard time understanding those who crave so much for more sharpness than you can have with the EF 135L, also at f2. When you reach a certain level of sharpness, “sharp enough“ (which the 135L is) getting sharper becomes meaningless, or at least a low priority, in my opinion. I’d rather have a smaller and lighter lens, rather than a sharper one than the 135L.
 

lexptr

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I agree! It’s not that I don’t appreciate sharp lenses, but I have a hard time understanding those who crave so much for more sharpness than you can have with the EF 135L, also at f2. When you reach a certain level of sharpness, “sharp enough“ (which the 135L is) getting sharper becomes meaningless, or at least a low priority, in my opinion. I’d rather have a smaller and lighter lens, rather than a sharper one than the 135L.
But what if new one will be sharper AND maintain all the good qualities of the old 135 f2 or even improve them? Also there are some super-mega-pixel bodies these days and people who want to use them and make large prints.
 

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Ale_F

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Ok. I agree for the need of some cheap RF lenses over the fast big zoom and prime.
50 1.8
about 40 pancake 2.8
28 2.8
 
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Yasko

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These rumored lenses sound sweet. If they're not stabilized, they'd be tough to work with with cameras without IBIS.

I see a future where I adapt Canon RF lenses on Nikon Z-mount bodies. :LOL:
I rather see a future to adapt my EF glass to an RF body ;). May be the next RP or R iteration (with a sensor different than my 6D mk ii one...), or may be I will just save anton of money and keep the DSLR as a main body for a few years to come. I mean, I am a nerd, not making a living from it...
 
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Mr Majestyk

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So Canon has decided it's great to have a smaller mirrorless camera and then just release insanely expensive and massive lenses. Yeah megabuck primes will have sales skyrocketing.
 
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Perio

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135 1.4 would be vreally crazy (also extremely expensive) If anyday canon creates an x1.4 or x2 extensor for RF mount, this will become almost 200 f2 (189 f2, exactly), Thats a lens almost valued on 6k$. I think it will be 1.8 IS or so.
Mitakon 135mm f1.4 lens is about the same size as Canon 200mm f2. I used to own 200 f2, loved it optically but the FL is a bit too much. The same highest IQ but 135mm FL would be amazing. Some weight save would be great too ;)