More information about the Canon PowerShot G5 X Mark II and PowerShot G7 X Mark III

Canon Rumors Guy

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Both the Canon PowerShot G5 X Mark II and Canon PowerShot G7 X Mark III are scheduled to be announced later this week alongside the new RF 24-240 f/4-6.3 IS lens. Both of the new PowerShot cameras will begin shipping in early August.
The RAW burst mode of 30fps seems quite impressive for both cameras, though there are some caveats according to Nokishita.
The continuous shooting performance of the Canon “Powershot G5 X Mark II” and “Powershot G7 X Mark III” is 20 fps during one-shot AF and 8.0 fps during servo AF (G7 XIII: 8.3 fps?), RAW burst It seems that 30 frames per second only in a specific mode.

About the Canon PowerShot G5 X Mark II:
Key Features

24mm 5x Zoom
Premium Wide-Angle Zoom Lens
20.1 Megapixel 1.0-Type Stacked CMOS Sensor
4K Movies
120fps Full HD Movie
Tilting Screen
Pop-Up OLED Electronic Viewfinder
Bluetooth
Wi-Fi
USB Charging

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OremLK

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So nothing yet about whether the 4k video has an additional crop factor. Very curious about both that and about how sharp the new lens will actually be.
 
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Proscribo

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So nothing yet about whether the 4k video has an additional crop factor. Very curious about both that and about how sharp the new lens will actually be.
I'm very curious how the aperture behaves, the extremes are the same but that doesn't tell much:
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blackcoffee17

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Arghh, this Canon obsession to put the tripod mount right next to the battery door hinge. Can't believe they cannot move it a bit towards the center of the camera.
 
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hachu21

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on nokishita :
  • 4k 30p no crop 10min recording
  • usb-c connector
  • raw burst mode : 30fps, 70 raw, pre-recording up to 0.5s
  • normal burst mode : 20 fps with fixed af / 8 fps with af-c both up to 118 images (jpeg?)
  • burst without blackout on the viewfinder
  • 24-120mm f/1.8-2.8
  • mini focusing distance @120mm is 20cm (!) => Proxi magnification = x0.47
  • electronic shutter up to 1/25600s
  • mic input
looks like a good one! :)
 

mensaf

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on nokishita :
  • 4k 30p no crop 10min recording
  • usb-c connector
  • raw burst mode : 30fps, 70 raw, pre-recording up to 0.5s
  • normal burst mode : 20 fps with fixed af / 8 fps with af-c both up to 118 images (jpeg?)
  • burst without blackout on the viewfinder
  • 24-120mm f/1.8-2.8
  • mini focusing distance @120mm is 20cm (!) => Proxi magnification = x0.47
  • electronic shutter up to 1/25600s
  • mic input
looks like a good one! :)
Wednesday can't come fast enough.
 

Kit.

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Is this going to have the RX100 phase detection AF? Surely they wouldn't go with contrast AF on this, right?
Sony only has a PDAF sensor with such specs. It would be strange not to use its PDAF functionality.
 

Stereodude

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on nokishita :
  • 4k 30p no crop 10min recording
  • usb-c connector
  • raw burst mode : 30fps, 70 raw, pre-recording up to 0.5s
  • normal burst mode : 20 fps with fixed af / 8 fps with af-c both up to 118 images (jpeg?)
  • burst without blackout on the viewfinder
  • 24-120mm f/1.8-2.8
  • mini focusing distance @120mm is 20cm (!) => Proxi magnification = x0.47
  • electronic shutter up to 1/25600s
  • mic input
looks like a good one! :)
Unfortunately, there's still plenty of room for them to Canon it up. Like not offer 4K 24p or no AF when shooting 1080p120 or 4K. I keep hoping Canon will turn over a new leaf and stop crippling new cameras, but so far they don't seem to have turned that leaf over. I'm expecting one or two significant gotchas to the leaked feature lists on the G5X MkII and the G7X MkIII that will reduce their appeal.
 
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PVCC

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Did I miss the "more information" about the G7XII?
I feel the same, although it will be G7X III;)

It's the one I could get (G5X II too expensive), hopefully...

PS: BTW, previous leaks told 24MP, not 20MP sensor...
 

Stereodude

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So from the Canon Press Release...
  • 4K up to 30p, Full HD up to 60p, FHD up to 120p, HDR, high frame rate movie with no crop
What's the difference between Full HD and FHD?

And, per the feature list at dpreview they don't have p24 video capability at any resolution, but they have a vertical video mode. sigh
 

PVCC

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Jul 5, 2019
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What does exactly mean "stacked sensor"?

In previous leaks, they said "Back illuminated sensor".. (which as far as I know have better sensitivity to light).
 
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both these cameras look very similar to me, I don't get what really separates them that justifies the price difference?! Also, i think it's great that they have an audio input jack for an external mic, but why not add a hot shoe so I can use a rodemic? :( I liked the older G5 form factor better
 

Kit.

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both these cameras look very similar to me, I don't get what really separates them that justifies the price difference?!
The lens.

Also, i think it's great that they have an audio input jack for an external mic, but why not add a hot shoe so I can use a rodemic? :( I liked the older G5 form factor better
G5 II does not have an external mic jack.
 

CANNOT

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Shame the G5XmkII is not a better G7XmkIII. And that it has lost its previous formfactor (with a vari-angle screen, proper EVF and hotshoe) which would've made it perfect (in combination with a 3.5mm mic-in/livestreaming). Not to mention the lack of 24p and DPAF/PDAF or the 10 min restriction in 4K. Then again... it's Canon. They're always playing the segmentation game and crippling cameras forcing you into higher tier cameras when you want/need certain features. Though even then you're never 'getting it all' which is a shame. They're also just about always playing 'catching up', now finally adding 4K (I'm surprised it's cropless) and hardly ever leading the pack with innovation (like here they're re-using an older sensor from the competition).

But... it's difficult to argue that Canon cameras 'just work' and are easy to use. Especially regarding the YouTube community where one really just literally wants to 'point and shoot' and not deal with the technicalities of it all. Over a decade ago the YT community weapon of choice were the small Flip cams by Cisco (UltraHD/MinoHD), after that it pretty much became the G7X-series. Their package is just allround and easy enough to have such a massive following. Most notably for vloggers: the screen flips up so they can monitor themselves, the AF is somewhat decent, the onboard mic with adhesive windfurry attached sounds okay-ish and the stabilization works rather well compared to some of the competition. The lens itself also has a really usable range and more importantly the sensitivity at that range is really respectable with its f/1.8-2.8 (the mentioned G1XmkIII for example only has 3x zoom and falls off from f/2.8 to 5.6, kinda defeating the purpose of the somewhat bigger sensor; or the RX100 VI with its versatile 24-200mm range but f/2.8-4.5 sensitivity). In the end the G7X-series always made for a great portable allround all-in-1 camera. That's been the charm all along, just bring your G7XmkII with you... if you don't end up using it that day, fine... if an oppertunity to capture some footage does come up... you've got it with you. For those moments when you just need something more than what your cameraphone can give you. I mean... sure you can take an 80D with RØDE VideoMic Pro+ and Joby Gorillapod with you wherever you go... but it gets a bit bulky and cumbersome. Same reason a BMPCC4K with rigging, external monitor, storage, power, audio, lighting etc is way overkill for vlogging, even if they fitted a record button as such that it is easy to hit when holding it in selfie mode. Just use the appropriate equipment for the right scenarios.

Regarding resolution, 1080p rather than 4K didn't bother people too much... after all, on YouTube content is king. 1080p only also meant it you'd cut through it like butter with any editor. People generally like the Canon colorscience applied to imagery, so doesn't need much tweaking in post at all, usually looks at the organic softer side than brittle modern oversharpened cellphone footage. You'd pretty much be set introducing a slight hint of sharpness back into the footage, drop a curve on top of the footage and call it a day. This all means a dang quick post process allowing YouTubers to upload content whilst it is still fresh.

I'm glad there's an update though. I had great hopes the LX100mkII would've incorporated everything to take the reign, but it was a hardly worthy miserable update. In the same fashion the RX100 VA was just a slight twist on the original V and the VI wasn't much of a successor as it was a variation within the range offering a model with a wider zoomrange (at the cost of sensitivity). The original V stems from the same year as the G7XmkII. In Sony years that actually means it's ancient. Whatever happened to Sony launching an updated model ever half year? And where is the A7SmkIII? Anyways, Sony cams always struggled whether premium compact or APS-C iLC. Wrong focus if you ask me: combining a tiny miniature body and trying to do the craziest specs. That looks nice on paper... in practice... not so great. Overheating, poor ergonomics, lack of ports and usability and such. This is how the seemingly lacklustre G7X-series managed to keep its importance throughout the years! Again... as much as I hate Canon for crippling cameras and lack innovation, they do the basics right and their cameras once again 'just work'.

Been a while since I personally owned a Canon camera though. Last one must've been their PowerShot SX1 IS (one of the first ever cameras to do 1080p). I hacked that one with CHDK to open up some more advanced options like running scripts. From that one I transitioned into interchangeable lens camera systems with the GH2 and later a bunch of other predominantly Panasonic cameras. But I think I've got to give the G7XmkIII a shot here. Would've liked the EVF, even if pop-up (in january I wanted a camera for my South Africa trip and bought a Sony HX99 travelzoom with pop-up EVF, it's better than nothing!) and the added range (5x VS 4.2x zoom; same sensitivity) but the benefits of the G7XmkIII (3.5mm mic-in/livestreaming) and its lower price might just be the way to go. Again... bummer that we can't have everything, but it's Canon, we really shouldn't have expected anything else from them...

-- Introduction vid from Canon:
 
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