New Canon EF-S Wide Angle Prime Announcement Coming April 5

[ahsanford]

I just think about how an average crop user (i.e. next to no one on this forum) sizes up buying a prime and it's a pretty tough sell.

Canon EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM #4 on popularity on this online shop:
https://www.cameranu.nl/en/c1622/objectieven/canon

Which is quite popular in Europe.

Indeed, that's my point from the prior post -- I think a prime in crop sells itself on one of three things: bokeh, macro or pancake-size.

So, presuming this prime isn't macro or bokeh-oriented, one might assume this ought to be a pancake.

- A

 

[LonelyBoy]

Not to mention that the kit lens is already an 18mm f2.8 IS STM.... only have a stop slower and it zooms. But that would be cool still, as a pancake.

I'd hope a lot wider.

Isn't it f/3.5 at the wide end?

Of course, that's still not much difference. I'm going to guess it's wider, though not all the way to 10mm.

 

[ajfotofilmagem]

EF-S 8/1.8 USM would be cool. Like UltraWide GoPro and EF 14 on FF.
EF-S 15/1.2 USM would also be welcomed.
Wouldn't any f/2.8 be quite boring?

Just because many people would pay more than a thousand dollars for an EF-S lens, which is heavier than their 7D Mark II body, right? ??? : 8)

But you can count on me for a couple of more realistic primes:
EF-S 8mm F2.8
EF-S 15mm F2

 

[anden]

EF-S 8/1.8 USM would be cool. Like UltraWide GoPro and EF 14 on FF.
EF-S 15/1.2 USM would also be welcomed.
Wouldn't any f/2.8 be quite boring?

Just because many people would pay more than a thousand dollars for an EF-S lens, which is heavier than their 7D Mark II body, right? ??? : 8)

But you can count on me for a couple of more realistic primes:
EF-S 8mm F2.8
EF-S 15mm F2

You are probably right. They are stretches if affordable, but Canon seem to haven't tried hard with crop lenses for a long time so I figured if they now have, then who knows.

 

[vangelismm]

USM? Give up.

I think we will never see again a non L USM lens again.

 

[Policar]

Not to mention that the kit lens is already an 18mm f2.8 IS STM.... only have a stop slower and it zooms. But that would be cool still, as a pancake.

I'd hope a lot wider.

Isn't it f/3.5 at the wide end?

Of course, that's still not much difference. I'm going to guess it's wider, though not all the way to 10mm.

It is, as I wrote, "a half stop slower," f3.5 being a half stop slower than f2.8. But then I think I mistyped and it autocorrected to "have."

Curious what the f stop of this new lens is at least, as it sounds like that has leaked. Hoping it's an ultra wide, I figure it must be to differentiate itself from the pack, but the 10-18 is already excellent. Maybe it's a fast ultra wide? Or just a very wide pancake, but I'm not sure if that's possible with a mirror box and the EF-S flange focal distance.

 

[Woody]

Wide angle? Not standard? Sigh... disappointed

 

[IglooEater]

Also, to CR guy -- an isolated lens announcement for crop seems oddly timed. Any chance this might be announced alongside something else that it might go with? The Rebels just got a refresh and an 80D or 7D2 replacement isn't the right timing, so I can't think of anything 'crop-appropriate' off hand... unless it's an 80Da or something, and that seems a reach.

- A

There is no other DSLR coming in 2017 other than the 6D2 and SL2, we don't have an announcement date on either of those.

Canon in the past has done a camera announcement and then relatively quickly after, a lens announcement. This lens will be good for buyers of the 77D and T7i.

I'll try to get the SL2 announcement date asap.

Ef-s and prime give the potential of very small. Sounds like an awesome lens to put on an SL2 and throw in a pack for hiking.

 

[illadvisedhammer]

re ahsanford's thoughtful post, I'm a crop sensor user (M2 and 80D), and kind of EF-S lensed out (10-18, 24, 35+50 [EF], 55-250, 15-85). I feel the wide zooms (11-22 and 10-18) give me all the wide angle I need and I don't need wide aperture on those. My favorite/best lens outside the bug hunters (60, 65, 100) is the 35 f/2 IS. It is sharper than the 50 1.8, either because of optics or IS, but more importantly it is an indoor/outdoor lens, okay to snap across a restaurant table or living room in a way the 50 can't on APS-C. An EF-S 30-35 1.8 IS if it's light and high quality would probably get me to trade the 35f2, and probably the 24 2.8, since the EF-M 22 gets all the pancake work anyway. The 35 f2 is so good that I'd probably be happiest to buy a 30 1.8 EF-M and keep the 35, if they released one. If feels like that might be the future anyway.

 

[Crosswind]

EF-S 8/1.8 USM would be cool. Like UltraWide GoPro and EF 14 on FF.
EF-S 15/1.2 USM would also be welcomed.
Wouldn't any f/2.8 be quite boring?

Hey, I wouldn't call it "boring" if it features IS and is really sharp wide open... f/2.8 for a "cheap", small and lightweight EF-S wideangle is pretty OK.

If a lens is almost unusable at f/1.8 or even brighter (because you have to stop it down to ~f/2.8 anyway to get nice contrast and sharpness), now THAT I'd call a boring lens.

 

[ashmadux]

It should be a 22/f2 as an ef-s version of the sweet M lens, or anything below 15mm.

15 @ 2.8 mm on crop is, well 'crap' - not interesting in the least. 2.8 on crop isn't spectacular either, so go lower or go home.

12mm? now your talking

 

[ashmadux]

EF-S 8/1.8 USM would be cool. Like UltraWide GoPro and EF 14 on FF.
EF-S 15/1.2 USM would also be welcomed.
Wouldn't any f/2.8 be quite boring?

Hey, I wouldn't call it "boring" if it features IS and is really sharp wide open... f/2.8 for a "cheap", small and lightweight EF-S wideangle is pretty OK.

If a lens is almost unusable at f/1.8 or even brighter (because you have to stop it down to ~f/2.8 anyway to get nice contrast and sharpness), now THAT I'd call a boring lens.

Lol we said the same thing. 2.8 on crop is no crowning achievement, definitely not newsworthy. BUT "boring?"

DEFINITELY. :

 

[Crosswind]

15 @ 2.8 mm on crop is, well 'crap' - not interesting in the least. 2.8 on crop isn't spectacular either, so go lower or go home.

Depends on the price

 

[ashmadux]

Boring lens? Boring photographer. Come on now, you can make exciting images with a pinhole camera.

You're making a point for something no one was talking about. Nobody was talking about the skills of a photographer nor ability to use a given lens. Stay focused! (no pun)

A boring lens is boring like a boring camera body. Boring.

Cmon dude.

PS - Go buy a 40d, I heard you can make exciting images with it Aww...why not? Ooohh....gotcha.

 

[sanj]

A 35mm equivalent f2 will make me buy a crop camera. Serious!

 

[Antono Refa]

EF-S 8/1.8 USM would be cool. Like UltraWide GoPro and EF 14 on FF.

EF-S 15/1.2 USM would also be welcomed.

Wouldn't any f/2.8 be quite boring?

To whom?

Canon makes lenses that sell, all the more so when it comes to crop. Who is the target audience for a fast wide crop lens? Would a fast crop lens be cheap enough to sell well? Would it hurt sales of fast L primes, e.g. 24mm f/1.4?

Suppose an 8mm f/1.8 was priced at $500. One could buy a 14mm f/2.8L for $2,100 or 80D + 8mm f/1.8 for $1,900, FF owners might choose the later, while few crop owners would be willing to spend $500 on a prime lens, leading to a bottom line loss.

 

[jolyonralph]

Why is everyone so hung up on the speed of an ultra-wide angle lens?

By far the more important issue is image quality.

I couldn't care less if it was f/1.8 or f/2.8 as long as it's pin sharp.

 

[Plainsman]

I like the 24/2.8 STM semi-wide pancake - so sharp,so light IS is not necessary.
On the 24Mp sensor it crops down to a very good 12Mp "standard" lens equivalent i.e. two lenses for one.
A 15 or 18/2.8 STM would be a great additional lens.

 

[Frage]

We <a href="http://www.canonrumors.com/the-next-lens-from-canon-will-be-an-ef-s-prime/">told you back in January</a> that Canon would be announcing a new EF-S prime lens soon.</p>
<p>We now know the lens is expected to be announced on April 5, 2017 in North America and that it is indeed a new wide angle EF-S prime lens.</p>
<p>Unfortunately we’ve been told two different focal length for this lens and we’re trying to confirm which is correct. We’ll let you know as soon as we know. We’re hoping for a lens around 10mm for APS-C cameras (though that’s highly unlikely).</p>
<p><em>More to come…</em></p>
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@CR Guy

You forgot to mention the 2 rumored focal lenghts.

 

[traveller]

Isn't it a strange new world when Canon are making the budget lenses and leaving the high end to Sigma?

I take it we are assuming that Canon will be announcing a f/2.8 pancake in the ilk of the EF-S 24mm f/2.8 STM? To be honest, unless it is ultra wide (e.g. 10mm), I can't really see the point. An 18mm or 15mm lens only gets you 2/3rds of a stop of extra light gathering over the zooms (18-55mm kit zooms & 15-85) and you lose IS. You aren't going to get much depth of field control either, unless you get very close to your subject.

What is Canon trying to tell its APS-C customers, because to me it looks like if you want fast wide glass, either pay the money and size penalty for full frame, or go mirrorless (probably with another manufacturer's system, given Canon's currently less than extensive EF-M wide prime lineup).

Of course, Canon could surprise us all with a 15mm of 22mm f/1.8 or f/2 prime... and pigs might fly!