the new nikon looks like a killers entry level camera with 24mp for under $700, yes the iso performance will probably be shocking but will people who buy even understand that.
I'm sure he will be very happy, if canon comes out with something like this i dont see what they are going to do to the 70d/7d mk2briansquibb said:Looks like I will be buying one of these when they arrive
My son-in-law uses Noink for Astro Photography - so that is his birthday present sorted![]()
It appears that even most reviewers don't understand it -- in the opposite sense: I've seen comparisons between the 5D3 and the D800 where the conclusion was that the D800 was significantly worse at higher ISOs; others noted that the difference went away when downsizing the D800 to 5D3 resolution.recon photography said:the new nikon looks like a killers entry level camera with 24mp for under $700, yes the iso performance will probably be shocking but will people who buy even understand that.
and why would a normal customer buy such a 36MP camera to begin with?caruser said:It appears that even most reviewers don't understand it -- in the opposite sense: I've seen comparisons between the 5D3 and the D800 where the conclusion was that the D800 was significantly worse at higher ISOs; others noted that the difference went away when downsizing the D800 to 5D3 resolution.recon photography said:the new nikon looks like a killers entry level camera with 24mp for under $700, yes the iso performance will probably be shocking but will people who buy even understand that.
Put together it sounds like the conclusions about the D800 being worse were drawn from 100% crops, i.e. comparing the same number of pixels, rather than, as would be necessary for a valid conclusion, the same sensor area. Sigh.
fair enough moderators deleted all the bs anyways they are what keeps me on hereCanon-F1 said:nikon just announced a 24 MP aps-c camera.
nikon and canon have truly switched paradigmas in only 1 year....
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/04/19/Nikon-D3200-with-WiFi-Option
rumor is it has the A77 / NEX-7 sensor... or a slight modification of that sensor.
ps: i would not have started this thread if others would post in the right forum categorys.
but i don´t search the EOS BODIES forum for nikon threads. so i thought there was no thread about the D3200 yet.
AGREE 200% ;Dsolarpos said:I'd like Canon's response to Nikon's two latest releases to be as such:
1. 7D mk2…..Stills only upgrades with ISO improvements, dual cards and same AF as 5D3, no video improvements (keep target price range)
2. T4i/70D…..video AF with 7Dmk1 AF trickle down. CF Card.
Improve the IQ, Improve the NR, Improve the ISO across the board and do it without getting MP crazy.
Please explain why MP is all that matters.dilbert said:Oh yay.
Now even the very entry level digital cameras from Nikon have more megapixels than any digital camera from Canon.
Of course it is not *all* that matters. But it helps with cropping when using a prime and macro shots, changing aspect ratio and different framing in post-processing, easier framing while shooting because cropping doesn't let you drop into too low mp regions.altenae said:Please explain why MP is all that matters.
With the 5d3 in the same mp range than the 5200, it can hardly be argued that 24mp is crazy, at least if Sony's sensor tech keeps delivering and the noise (at least when downsized to 18mp = Canon aps-c) and dr are within reason.azizjhn said:Improve the IQ, Improve the NR, Improve the ISO across the board and do it without getting MP crazy.
it will be funny for first time dslr buyers comparing the 1100d to the d3200 it has double the mps XDMarsu42 said:Of course it is not *all* that matters. But it helps with cropping when using a prime and macro shots, changing aspect ratio and different framing in post-processing, easier framing while shooting because cropping doesn't let you drop into too low mp regions.altenae said:Please explain why MP is all that matters.
With the 5d3 in the same mp range than the 5200, it can hardly be argued that 24mp is crazy, at least if Sony's sensor tech keeps delivering and the noise (at least when downsized to 18mp = Canon aps-c) and dr are within reason.azizjhn said:Improve the IQ, Improve the NR, Improve the ISO across the board and do it without getting MP crazy.
I don't think we'll see much of a 650d soon if Canon was as surprised by this as they seemed by the d800 - with the aps-c line being made for dlsr first-timers that don't have a lens zoo to keep and can easily "jump ship", imho the 600d is toast. Apart from running magic lantern, that is.