No crop on 4K coming in next APS-C DSLR [CR1]
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I personally dont care about crop mode in video as a macro shooter its a good thing for me as long as the video doesnt have too much rolling shutter its perfectly fine.
Wow. I was initially tempted to write something sarcastic, but if this is true (4k/60, 1080/>=120, no crop of the 1.6x) I can see myself doing the unthinkable. I might actually (gasp) buy another Canon camera ! As much as I love my incredible Panasonic S1 for video, it's AF is not the best and this could be a great companion / compliment to it for all things motion. But I am not holding out hope. I mean they have their precious little cine EOS to protect, right ?
On the M50 with the 28mm macro DPAF does a very nice job on autofocus in HD, so I hope that will keep an option to crop it and allow DPAF.
Both lineskipping and binning are objectively incorrect designs because they change the sampling from what the antialiasing filter was designed for.
The purpose of the antialiasing filter is to spread light across adjacent pixels so that the camera does not see things that are not there. It has to be designed for that particular pixel pitch (so that it blurs into the next pixel, and not the next 2). When you introduce line skipping with video the antialiasing filter that was there for stills doesn't work. Binning is no better regarding aliasing, because it's still sampling at the same lower spatial frequency as lineskipping; its only advantage over lineskipping is lower noise.
With downsampling, the camera is taking the antialiased data and then interpolating between those values to find the correct value.
If a camera uses lineskipping, one of two things is true: (i) the engineers did not understand sampling theory, or (ii) the maker did not want to spend the money to put a decent processor in the camera. Either way, I wouldn't buy such a camera. If Sony could put true downsampling in the original RX10, it should be in a 2019 Canon 7D successor.
You're forgetting a third possible reason: the sensor doesn't have a fast enough read out.
I was half-joking but on the serious side my 5DIV does crop at 4K so there is that if it is needed. It would be nice to have it as an option but I have no experience in video. I only do photos but for a 5 min video with tripod and 7DII and 500II on it (Great crested grebes building their nest).
The 6D Mark II already more or less matches the 5D Mark III in terms of specs other than 1/4000 vs. 1/8000 shortest Tv and 1/180 vs. 1/200 X-sync.
If it is not downsampled from 32MP (cropped to 16:9) then it might remain acceptable and this is a new generation sensor with faster readout, Sony still uses old sensors in their APS-C cameras (X-T3 or X-T30 use a new one, so rolling shutter is less)
It probably has lately.
The 7D Mark II was released in late 2014 and those who wanted one have either long since bought them or have been waiting for the last two years to see what the replacement will look like. Or bought a Nikon D500.
The 80D was released in 2016 so it's two years "younger" and waiting to see what would replace it probably only started affecting sales numbers in the past few months.
There's also the perception that the 80D has a "better" sensor because it has more dynamic range at low ISO and too many reviewers are obsessed with maximum DR, which only happens for any camera at base ISO. Same thing with DxO Mark, which seems to place a lot more weight on DR at base ISO than on signal to noise ratio for high ISO/low light performance for their overall composite scores.
At ISO 1600 and ISO 3200, where many 7D Mark II users live if they shoot night/indoor sports, the 7D Mark II actually slightly outperforms the 80D in terms of DR and SNR.
The 7D Mark II has slightly better DR and SNR than the 80D at ISO 1600 and ISO 3200. It's only at low ISO that the 80D has better DR. No APS-C sensor is going to match a FF sensor from the same generation of technology for high ISO/low light performance.
The sensor in my 7D Mark II is noticeably better than the sensor in my 7D at anything above ISO 800. It's not close.
The 80D sensor has better DR at low ISO, but the sensor in the 7D Mark II is slightly better at ISO 1600 and ISO 3200 and up where most sports shooters live. The 7D is about the same in terms of DR at ISO 100-400, but falls away at ISO 1600 and higher, just as the 80D does.
When differences in actual ISO for the same ISO settings are accounted for, the 7D Mark II has better SNR than the 80D which has slightly better or equal SNR than the 7D across the entire ISO range:
It might be capable, but it probably won't be rated at 200,000. Based on the user submitted data at Oleg Kikin's Shutter Life Database (click site map to see the full camera model list), there aren't enough 80D users who even care about shutter life, much less have shot more than 100K frames to give a statistically significant sample. On the other hand, a lot more 7D Mark II shooters report high frame counts.
Didn't they introduce that Rebel Pro with the 77D/800D? Forum users and reviewers dismissed it, but it seems to be quite popular.
Canon has often introduced features below the flagship level. In the Canon world new features have often trickled up as well as trickled down. Canon may or may not have a product segmentation strategy, but it doesn't always apply to how Canon introduces new features in its camera line.
So in a few words, we know nothing and Canon can do basically anything.