No new EOS R body shipping in 2019 [CR2]

CanonFanBoy

EOS 5D SR
Jan 28, 2015
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FYI, I now have a Canon 1DX mkII, 5DmkIV, 6DmkII, Eos R, 5DmkIII and a 77D. So its really kind of funny that you think I am a Sony Type.

I am just a realist and am aware of other brands and how they are doing. 5 yrs ago, Sony was a nothing in the full frame arena. Now they are a major player and have some damn good equipment. I may be a Canon guy but I know a good number who have left. I am optimistic about Canon though and feel their two initial bodies in the full frame mirrorless market are fairly strong entries particularly the RP at that price point.
14% of the total market (zero market share growth in 10 years) isn't "major player" status to me. Sony's camera division is gonna be in deep trouble soon. Deeper than usual. Waiting for the next couple of CIPA reports. Then what will you Sony types do? Hopefully Sony will release a lens longer than 400mm one day.
 

Don Haines

Beware of cats with laser eyes!
Jun 4, 2012
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Isn't that an internal contradiction?

Generally you don't need to AFMA on a DSLR either. So what was your point?
I think what he is trying to say is that on a DSLR, that all models of lenses can need AFMA but for most individual lenses it is not needed. On a Mirrorless camera, most models of lenses do not need AFMA, but there are a few that require it.
 

dba101

EOS M50
Sep 11, 2018
33
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I was busy chugging along with the 1DC since its release and the continued value that camera has given me, you cannot put a price on.
With all the current predictions/rumours, I decided to fill the second camera gap with an R.
Having read ALL the opinions in the last few months since release I was a maybe a bit sceptical, but had done the pro vs con thing for long enough.
Biggest revelation to me is that I now have some idea of the amount of bullshit written on the internet.
No wonder they are taking their time on the higher end versions. This system is very special.


For once I think I might of been on topic.
 

neuroanatomist

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Jul 21, 2010
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For once I think I might of been on topic.
Sorry, no. The topic is about bashing Canon. Please get with the program. ;)

I do quite like the R, but it’s not particularly small nor are good lenses for it. For me, it will be mainly a travel camera, I think.
 

Mt Spokane Photography

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Mar 25, 2011
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Sorry, no. The topic is about bashing Canon. Please get with the program. ;)

I do quite like the R, but it’s not particularly small nor are good lenses for it. For me, it will be mainly a travel camera, I think.
I bought mine to replace my SL-2 for travel, but I would have bought the RP instead for travel if it had been out. My R is small enough to sit on my desk, but still large compared to a RP. Third party accessories and software is still lagging in support. I have been trying a IOS app to control the camera after corresponding with the author. He said he had no camera to test it with, so I gave him a write up. Unfortunately, all of the functions work only partially, or don't work properly, but there is some functionality. I'm not aware of any remote app that works for a R that gives focus stacking, downloads RAW to the iphone, works with CR3, or other similar functions.

The app $1.99 RemotEOS does work as a remote shutter release, can do focus bracketing with limitations, and does save CR3 files to my iPhone.
 

MaxDiesel

I'm New Here
Sep 23, 2015
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Isn't that an internal contradiction?

Generally you don't need to AFMA on a DSLR either. So what was your point?
My Canon 5D3 and 5D4 needed to have the 50 1.2, 85 1.2 and 70-200mm re-aligned with AMFA almost by weekly, the sigma lenses we’re even more of a chore. If your use to shooting 2.8 or faster AMFA is a normal part of your weekely camera check. The more I traveled with the lenses and body the more the they needed adjustments. Also AMFA isnt a saviour. Sometimes you’ll have a perfect alignment for when use it at a 10 feet distance but then move in for a closer or out to infinity focus and all the sudden its off again.

These situations do not happen (99.9% of the time) with mirrorless, just buy a new lens, slap it on and your in focus even at f1.2 Some lenses like adapted lenses, vintage lenses or native macro lenses will need AFMA to adjust them with the sensor.
 

rrcphoto

EOS 5D MK IV
Jun 20, 2013
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That’s only for certain adapted or vintage lenses who don’t work well with their autofocus system. So the 1 in a 1000 issue. Generally you will NEVER need to amfa lenses on a mirrorless.
not true at all.

focus shift is a problem which is why Sony goes through such pains with some of their lenses that only AF stopped down and not wide open.
 

cayenne

EOR R
Mar 28, 2012
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...and I've never used a second card slot (although testing the R's instant smartphone backup, it definitely would give me ample peace of mind in any situation that would call for one).
Just curious...are these backups to phone full sized RAW, or just jpgs?

Thanks in advance,

cayenne
 

cayenne

EOR R
Mar 28, 2012
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Why not? I have seen here several people complaining that pros need two card slots and always mentioning that reliability is an issue (i.e. probability of losing pictures taken due to card failure). From reliability perspective, "a system is never better than its weakest link". If the alleged pro photog thinks the weakest link in his/her photo shooting business is "single card slot" then she/he will definitely go and get a memory card with the best quality possible rather than mourning for one card slot in the camera that he/she has.
With me, I found it very useful to have 2 cards in....shooting concert festivals like JazzFest in New Orleans. In the 'heat of battle', I'm not looking at my card count indicator, and was thankful that I had the extra slot to auto switch to while shooting, and not have to stop due to 1 card full.

It happened more than a couple of times on a full day with multiple artists on multiple stage in action.

Just my $0.02....

cayenne
 

cayenne

EOR R
Mar 28, 2012
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Yes, but it's honestly not a reliable alternative. As soon as you turn the camera off to change lenses or it goes into sleep mode you have to get everything set back up again - that alone makes it unrealistic. I have used it in the past, however. I was shooting product photos at a restaurant for their menu and never changed lenses. It worked out nice.

Hmm...interesting....
I never turn my camera off to change lenses.....are you supposed to? What's the +'s and -'s of not turning your camera off to change lenses?

I turn it off to change cards, but not lenses....

cayenne
 

neuroanatomist

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Hmm...interesting....
I never turn my camera off to change lenses.....are you supposed to? What's the +'s and -'s of not turning your camera off to change lenses?

I turn it off to change cards, but not lenses....
In the case of the EOS R turning off the camera closes the shutter, which protects the sensor. With a DSLR, the mirror does that job.
 
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Aussie shooter

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Hmm...interesting....
I never turn my camera off to change lenses.....are you supposed to? What's the +'s and -'s of not turning your camera off to change lenses?

I turn it off to change cards, but not lenses....

cayenne
Also as far as I know. When the camera is on the sensor creates a static field which will attract dust.
 

MaxDiesel

I'm New Here
Sep 23, 2015
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not true at all.

focus shift is a problem which is why Sony goes through such pains with some of their lenses that only AF stopped down and not wide open.
Focus Shift (focus needing adjustment after changing aperture) — This has nothing to do with AMFA.

AMFA is permanent at the sensor for a specific lens. Focus Shift is due the lens design.